Indian Army will fail in Kashmir

[illuminatidinesh]

Define Long...

Till now 64 years.....
In future I dont know ....

 

[JanjaWeed]

Reminds me of this aloo anday song by beygairat brigade, where they hold a placard saying PTI = Modern Jamat e Islami!!lol...

 

[Qasibr]

double post

 

[Qasibr]

The Indian Army has repeatedly been found to commit mass crimes against humanity, not just by Pakistani sources which these indos may brush aside as biased, but also from various media outlets throughout the world. And these indos have the arrogance to come over here, a Pakistani Defence forum, and belittle the human tragedy their army does over there. Shame on them. It goes to show how humane they are. This is psychopathic, patriotically supporting the slaughter of innocent civilians.

Many independent international news outlets are beginning to cover India's attrocities in Kashmir. Foreign Policy Magazine did an excellent job of covering the mass-graves India tries to hide from the world. Here's an excerpt from their article:

Sidiq has been working on the river for 12 years now. Every week or two, as he hoists a shovel full of sand from the riverbed, he finds himself staring at a skull, a broken skeleton, or a shattered femur. "Most of the dead were young men. You could see their shiny teeth; you could tell from the skull, he was very, very young. One day I found a young man.... He had been badly tortured. Both his hands and feet had been chopped off," says Sidiq as he sits beneath the majestic maple trees lining the riverbank.

A fellow sand-digger in his early 40s, Naseer Ahmed, found a skull in March. "It was a small skull. It would have been a 16- or 17-year-old boy. The other day, it was a thigh with flesh still on it," Ahmed said. "It is a haunted river."

By 1996, according to conservative official estimates, around 15,000 had been killed -- a number that has since risen to 70,000. India's military, paramilitary, and police forces deployed in massive numbers to pacify the rebellious province, and tens of thousands of Kashmiri civilians were taken into custody. Thousands never returned. Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and several Indian rights groups have repeatedly urged the Indian government to investigate the disappearances in Kashmir, but the government and the Army consistently argued that the missing weren't dead: They had crossed over to Pakistan to train as militants.

Stories of arrests, torture, killings, and secret burials were rife in Kashmir throughout the 1990s. Akhter Mohiuddin, a much-respected Kashmiri short-story writer, dedicated a collection of stories to "young men who were murdered at unknown places,"

In December 2009, the common knowledge that thousands were killed and buried in unknown places turned out to be true. The International People's Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice in Indian-Administered Kashmir (IPTK), a group of human rights activists led by a local rights group, published a report called "Buried Evidence" that established and conclusively documented the presence of 2,700 unmarked graves of unidentified people in three northern districts of the Kashmir Valley, close to the Line of Control.

Kashmir's Mass-Graves Come to Light | Foreign Policy Magazine

The overwhelming facts speak for themselves, regardless of how much the Indians whine, complain, or ignore it. It would be in their own national interest to stop this genocide on the people of Kashmir, because it's a fact that attrocities of this level cannot be hidden for long. Already, various International organizations have begun to take notice.

Kashmir would continue to be a very painful thorn in India's side. The last time we fought over Kashmir was at Kargil. And India had a very difficult time over there - Israel's ambassador to India talked about this; he said Israel proved it's friendship to India at Kargil, where it helped India turn a loosing war around. It is known that they supplied chemical weapons which Pakistan's strategists hadn't calculated on India having, and that caused a few hundred casualties. Despite the help, Pakistan actually gained territory, including highly strategic peaks on India's side, and despite trying for many many years, they failed to gain control. India's propaganda machine desperately tries to ignore this fact when they try to spin Kargil as a victory for them.

India's Defence Minister was asked by the parliament if India had lost any territory, and he had to lie to save his dignity. When the facts came out about an entire mountain being lost to Pakistan(Tiger Hill 5353), he had to make a junior secretary a scapegoat and take the fall for it. This mountain overlooks India's only supply highway into the region, and if there's a war again, I'm afraid that route might not be very usable anymore. The Indian Army will be choked up there, and held to bear the consequences of their terrible attrocities. It goes to show the strategic importance of the peak, that Indian Army fought for many years to recapture it, with many major operations being launched to re-capture it(till 2003). Sadly, they all failed, and they gave up and declared a truce. An army that terrorizes innocent unarmed civilians is no fighting force.

They would be well-advised to stop this brutal oppression. India will have consequences if it continues down this path, regardless of how that makes these naive indo tweenagers on this forum feel, or the delusions they wish to believe regardless of facts covered by numerous international publications.

 

[474474]

so pakistan army is more stronger than u.s army??
so pakistan is super power??
pakistan have been successful in snatching kashmir from india by terrorism??

then who let him out of the cage to say this??he should have mentioned this into his speech

just ot make votes..he added these and if want to know better then go ask your generals.are they capable??

One thing is for sure, we ARE stronger than indian army - and the only terrorism in kashmir is by Indian Army DUMBSHIT NOW DONT FORGET THIS

---------- Post added at 10:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:03 PM ----------

Kashmiris don't like you, deal with it.

 

[alphamale]

at-least imran khan will get something out of kashmir(votes for his party)

 

[patriot_indian]

Lahore: Cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan led a massive gathering of his supporters in Lahore as he sought to galvanise his fledgling Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf party by raking up the issue of the rights of Kashmiris and seeking withdrawal of Indian troops from Jammu and Kashmir.
The rally near the Minar-e-Pakistan monument, which was attended by over 100,000 people, was aimed at projecting Khan as a serious contender in Pakistan's political arena ahead of the 2013 general election.
Over the past few months, Khan's party has sought to enlarge its support base in Punjab, the country's most populous province.
Khan's nearly 50-minute speech largely focussed on the problems and challenges facing Pakistan, including corruption and crippling power outages, but he used the occasion to take up several populist issues, including the Kashmir dispute.
"I want to tell Hindustan that the 700,000 troops you have kept among the Kashmiris. No army has been able to solve any country's problems at any time," he said to cheers from his supporters.
"Did the Americans succeed in Afghanistan? Is the Indian Army more powerful than the US Army? When the Americans couldn't succeed, how can you succeed with 700,000 troops that are involved in excesses?" he alleged.
Khan, whose party did not participate in the last general election and fared poorly in previous polls, called on India to give "Kashmiris their rights and call back the troops".
He said his party would "stand with the Kashmiri brothers and speak for their rights at all forums".
He said the rally marked the culmination of a movement begun 15 years ago by the Pakistan Tehrik to tackle the country's problems, including corruption, inflation, rising prices, lack of education, unemployment and an energy crisis
Indian Army will fail in Kashmir: Imran Khan - Pakistan News - IBNLive

why we pay attention to these kind of nuts...................... all political gimmicks( no one votes his party hahahaah) . and whether india will succeed or fail for that my sincere advice to him " try to find out when pakistan will be declared a failed state or a terrorist state this will help him out.all bu****s

 

[patriot_indian]

No, you frequently using stupid comments and emotions in previous threads. Please kindly grow up for now, it is very important! Stop using "blah blah blah"

Read #6, it is just political statements. READ CAREFULLY !!!

are u matured ask ur self? or rather your political leaders . answer is look back at the history of pakistan u will get answer. stop advising others.

 

[vinith98]

Back in action, Hafizzzzzzzzzz ??. Please enjoy your holiday there, unusual place though

 

[Major vikram batra]

Till now 64 years.....
In future I dont know ....

Ask you heart and he will say same thing ' i don't know'( because he can't count that much of years)

 

[great]

Well then, can I make a statement as well? Pakistan cannot be held together by force for long. After all, isn't it the Pakistani military, the binding force behind their unity as claimed many Pakistanis on this forum? Balochistan would be first to go.

 

[Major vikram batra]

Well then, can I make a statement as well? Pakistan cannot be held together by force for long. After all it is Pakistan military that is keeping it together by force.

Straight in spot but now you have to careful from moderators

 

[Veeru]

India can't hold Kashmir by force for long

That's why we hold our beloved Kashmir with love and compassion

Kashmir is a integral part of India from the time this planet was made, and it will remain the part of India till the destruction of this planet.

 

[roadrunner]

you sound vvvvery scary Major Vikram Batra. being an enemy's nightmare

 

[Major vikram batra]

you sound vvvvery scary Major Vikram Batra. being an enemy's nightmare

sounds like i am achieving what i want to achieve