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Indian Army has a new doctrine.

In my humble opinion; Indian military philosophy revolves around the strategy of capturing a significant chunk of Pak territory quickly before the nuclear threshold is reached and then negotiate the peace from a position of strength.
This is what the cold start doctrine is.
IBGs are here to fine tune our mobilisation and decision making in the field so each battle group can act as a self sufficient army without being dependent on any other unit for its functioning.
Its a good idea but will take sometime to fine tune and get our troops acclimated to it
 
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Indian Army announces new land warfare doctrine
Rahul Bedi, New Delhi - Jane's Defence Weekly
21 December 2018


The Indian Army (IA) is seeking to create integrated battle groups (IBGs), expand its cyber warfare capabilities, and induct energy-directed weapons as well as artificial intelligence-based systems to manage multiple security challenges, the service announced in its Land Warfare Doctrine-2018.

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IA cadets take part in a 'tactical continuity training' exercise at an officers training academy in Chennai in March 2018. The IA published its Land Warfare Doctrine-2018 in mid-December. (Arun Sankar/AFP/Getty Images)

Dated 27 November, but published in mid-December, the doctrine states that the IA will employ "composite" IBGs comprising a mix of five to six battalions to execute conventional combat operations for "greater flexibility in force application".

Each IBG, which would be larger than the existing 3,000 personnel-strong brigade but smaller than a 10,000-strong division, would be headed by a two-star officer and include infantry, armoured, artillery, air-defence, and support units, all of which would be backed by attack helicopters.

According to the doctrine, the IA's will also focus on developing cross-domain capabilities, facilitating enhanced jointness and integration among the three services, and optimising the available forces and resources "for effective and robust military responses in a future battlefield milieu".

The IA is also refining its strategies to deal with dangers emanating from "restive, complex and active" border disputes with Pakistan and China and what it referred to as "state-sponsored-terrorism from across the border".

The doctrine states that the IA will deal with "deliberate transgressions" by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) across the disputed 4,057 km-long Line of Actual Control (LoAC) in a "firm and resolute manner" and in "consonance with existing agreements and protocols".

This comes after the IA and the PLA were embroiled in a 72 day-long stand off that ended in August 2017 at the Doklam tri-junction, which is situated along the disputed borders between India, China and Bhutan. The IA is of the view that it faced down the PLA at the time.

The doctrine also states that the IA will continue to carry out counter-insurgency (COIN) operations against Pakistan to "ensure deterrence through punitive measures" such as the September 2016 cross-border 'surgical strike' carried out by IA special forces against suspected militants in the disputed border region of Kashmir.

https://www.janes.com/article/85381/indian-army-announces-new-land-warfare-doctrine?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB 12.21.18&utm_term=Editorial - Military - Early Bird Brief
Thread is posted by most respectable member but I have to say it is a pure garbage from cold start to this nonsense since any real action other than fiction could lead to full fledged nuclear war.
 
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IA is refining the CSD; this time the term CSD is missing. Its like CSD v1.1 in the form of a new doctrine.

You might notice a few interesting things like for instance; IA IBG's strength is between a brigade and a division. This is for the reason that a conventional PA Brigade could get overwhelmed, being smaller in numbers, 3 fighting Regiments against 5 or 6 Fighting regiments. If PA puts a Division to stop it, then PA cannot use that Division in an offensive or defensive plan anywhere else, so the division will get engaged here for the rest of the war, this is a good method to dilute PA formations.

How to go about it ?

Considering that IA IBG's will be a mix of armor and mech infantry, PA can put a defensive anti-tank Brigade or an Independent Armour Brigade Group to counter it, however, this further means that the PA Corps HQ commanding that IABG has now engaged a very formidable asset into war and if all other formations under that Corps HQ are Infantry Divisions then the Corps HQ has become short of armor assets early-on in the war.
Basically, IA has strength in numbers for MBT, IFV, Artillery etc and this is a good way to exploit PA's weakness in numbers. As an example, IA commits 150 MBT and PA commits 100 MBT. If IA attacks in 5 different sectors, thats 750 IA MBT vs 500 PA MBT. So at the first day of battle, 500 PA MBT are already in war for defence, while the main attack by IA has yet to come. PA MBT reserves are extremely less as compared to IA's MBT reserves. Now if PA commits its best and modern 500 MBT's on the first day of war for defence purposes, the chances of an offensive later in war into India with modern MBT's become very less. Ofcourse PA cannot send only infantry to counter IA combined arms IBG. PA may also need to commit gunships/UCAV's early on in the war, which PA would have kept in reserve usually to stop a larger IA armored thrust later on in the war.

Next, the units under command of IBG can be extracted from few different formations, and since IBG itself forms a new formation on its own, so now a new Ad-Hoc formation suddenly shows up on battlefield which can cause confusion for PA. It would be hard to analyse on the spot which units have been shuffled to form an IBG and how much strength/units do the rest of the formations have left under their command now.

Also, even though the IBG will be smaller than a Division but it will be commanded by an officer (Major Gen, 2-Star) who is supposed to command a Division. Now, this relates to an educated guess that the formations under command of an IBG can swell up to a Division strength at some point, and for this task a Brigadier might not be suitable.

Another point is mentioning gunships in IBG's, so far India has used Mi-24 and converted Mi-17's into gunships, but now with the induction of AH-64's, the scenario will look very different and has chances to tilt in India's favour. To protect the IBG's and gunship's IA will call in IAF support and the integration between three services has been mentioned which means PAF will be on the defensive also. All this happening, when the main attack has not even started.

Now, one of many ways for PA to go about is to prepare a Division under every Corps HQ deployed next to the border, with enough strength in troops, MBT, APC, Artillery, SAM's and Gunships/UCAV's to counter or absorb an IBG attack in its respective sector. Then prepare another division under same Corps HQ which simultaneously penetrates inside India on a slightly different axis in the same region. The third division of that Corps HQ remains as reserve. This is however not possible in every theatre of war since some Corps HQ have only two divisions. If executed properly, this not only offsets IA IBG's thrust but leaves a gap for PA to ingress and hold enemy territory. Such an offensive will have higher success rate because majority of IA armor, mechanised infantry and other forces would be used in the IBG attack, and the forces left behind in that sector would mostly be infantry formations, probably in defensive posture.

Another way for countering IBG is to get more mobile; which means greater use of aviation assets forming air assault units with-in PA. Such Units can quickly reinforce threatened sectors and also flank the IBG from any side or try to cut them off completely from the rear. These airborne or air assault forces can show up anywhere with very little reaction time for the enemy.

The use of NASR is always there, but its also good to stay on top of the enemy using conventional methods which the enemy is not expecting.
 
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Thread is posted by most respectable member but I have to say it is a pure garbage from cold start to this nonsense since any real action other than fiction could lead to full fledged nuclear war.


Honorable Sir,

I came across this news surfing the internet and thought it relevant to PDF, hence I brought it to the notice of fellow members.

It may be “Pure Garbage" as you have graciously pointed out. Nevertheless “Jane’s Defence Weekly” is a very respectable publication on defense matters and surely the article deserved to be posted here.
 
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Honorable Sir,

I came across this news surfing the internet and thought it relevant to PDF, hence I brought it to the notice of fellow members.

It may be “Pure Garbage" as you have graciously pointed out. Nevertheless “Jane’s Defence Weekly” is a very respectable publication on defense matters and surely the article deserved to be posted here.

Sometimes you see life through a mirror sir.

Thank you for the share.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Honorable Sir,

I came across this news surfing the internet and thought it relevant to PDF, hence I brought it to the notice of fellow members.

It may be “Pure Garbage" as you have graciously pointed out. Nevertheless “Jane’s Defence Weekly” is a very respectable publication on defense matters and surely the article deserved to be posted here.
Please accept my apologies if you got offended but just like cold start doctrine every six months they announce something on papers which remain on paper even their own defense expert later deny such claims.

anyways,

If you posted this then it must be something to read since I never saw you posting substandard stuff.
Regards,

In my humble opinion; Indian military philosophy revolves around the strategy of capturing a significant chunk of Pak territory quickly before the nuclear threshold is reached and then negotiate the peace from a position of strength.
By they way we also have same policy, 1965 and 1971 we both nations capture each other's territory and later exchanged....Bangladesh was totally different case.

Even during Kargil we captured Indian claimed territory which N.S lost on table talks with Clinton.
 
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moving your troops inside enemy territory is very hard.indian ibgs might be 7 thousand or may be more.i don't think that they will face no resistance here.pakistan will use everything.i understand the concept of making ibgs.attack from different sides using ibgs but i don't think that they will gain anything.we have similar doctrine to repel the enemy forces.it can use large number of mines,air force,drones,tanks,artillery and even nasr.india should make sure that the ibgs will return safely to india.there are ways to trap ibgs inside pakistani border and cut the entire supply line.
 
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IA is refining the CSD; this time the term CSD is missing. Its like CSD v1.1 in the form of a new doctrine.

You might notice a few interesting things like for instance; IA IBG's strength is between a brigade and a division. This is for the reason that a conventional PA Brigade could get overwhelmed, being smaller in numbers, 3 fighting Regiments against 5 or 6 Fighting regiments. If PA puts a Division to stop it, then PA cannot use that Division in an offensive or defensive plan anywhere else, so the division will get engaged here for the rest of the war, this is a good method to dilute PA formations.

How to go about it ?

Considering that IA IBG's will be a mix of armor and mech infantry, PA can put a defensive anti-tank Brigade or an Independent Armour Brigade Group to counter it, however, this further means that the PA Corps HQ commanding that IABG has now engaged a very formidable asset into war and if all other formations under that Corps HQ are Infantry Divisions then the Corps HQ has become short of armor assets early-on in the war.
Basically, IA has strength in numbers for MBT, IFV, Artillery etc and this is a good way to exploit PA's weakness in numbers. As an example, IA commits 150 MBT and PA commits 100 MBT. If IA attacks in 5 different sectors, thats 750 IA MBT vs 500 PA MBT. So at the first day of battle, 500 PA MBT are already in war for defence, while the main attack by IA has yet to come. PA MBT reserves are extremely less as compared to IA's MBT reserves. Now if PA commits its best and modern 500 MBT's on the first day of war for defence purposes, the chances of an offensive later in war into India with modern MBT's become very less. Ofcourse PA cannot send only infantry to counter IA combined arms IBG. PA may also need to commit gunships/UCAV's early on in the war, which PA would have kept in reserve usually to stop a larger IA armored thrust later on in the war.

Next, the units under command of IBG can be extracted from few different formations, and since IBG itself forms a new formation on its own, so now a new Ad-Hoc formation suddenly shows up on battlefield which can cause confusion for PA. It would be hard to analyse on the spot which units have been shuffled to form an IBG and how much strength/units do the rest of the formations have left under their command now.

Also, even though the IBG will be smaller than a Division but it will be commanded by an officer (Major Gen, 2-Star) who is supposed to command a Division. Now, this relates to an educated guess that the formations under command of an IBG can swell up to a Division strength at some point, and for this task a Brigadier might not be suitable.

Another point is mentioning gunships in IBG's, so far India has used Mi-24 and converted Mi-17's into gunships, but now with the induction of AH-64's, the scenario will look very different and has chances to tilt in India's favour. To protect the IBG's and gunship's IA will call in IAF support and the integration between three services has been mentioned which means PAF will be on the defensive also. All this happening, when the main attack has not even started.

Now, one of many ways for PA to go about is to prepare a Division under every Corps HQ deployed next to the border, with enough strength in troops, MBT, APC, Artillery, SAM's and Gunships/UCAV's to counter or absorb an IBG attack in its respective sector. Then prepare another division under same Corps HQ which simultaneously penetrates inside India on a slightly different axis in the same region. The third division of that Corps HQ remains as reserve. This is however not possible in every theatre of war since some Corps HQ have only two divisions. If executed properly, this not only offsets IA IBG's thrust but leaves a gap for PA to ingress and hold enemy territory. Such an offensive will have higher success rate because majority of IA armor, mechanised infantry and other forces would be used in the IBG attack, and the forces left behind in that sector would mostly be infantry formations, probably in defensive posture.

Another way for countering IBG is to get more mobile; which means greater use of aviation assets forming air assault units with-in PA. Such Units can quickly reinforce threatened sectors and also flank the IBG from any side or try to cut them off completely from the rear. These airborne or air assault forces can show up anywhere with very little reaction time for the enemy.

The use of NASR is always there, but its also good to stay on top of the enemy using conventional methods which the enemy is not expecting.
GHQ needs to hire you bro ASAP.Kudos bhai and great anlaysis as always, the final paragraph reassured me somewhat.Kudos bhai.
@Tps43
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indian-army-has-a-new-doctrine.592899/page-2#post-11040621
 
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IA is refining the CSD; this time the term CSD is missing. Its like CSD v1.1 in the form of a new doctrine.

You might notice a few interesting things like for instance; IA IBG's strength is between a brigade and a division. This is for the reason that a conventional PA Brigade could get overwhelmed, being smaller in numbers, 3 fighting Regiments against 5 or 6 Fighting regiments. If PA puts a Division to stop it, then PA cannot use that Division in an offensive or defensive plan anywhere else, so the division will get engaged here for the rest of the war, this is a good method to dilute PA formations.

How to go about it ?

Considering that IA IBG's will be a mix of armor and mech infantry, PA can put a defensive anti-tank Brigade or an Independent Armour Brigade Group to counter it, however, this further means that the PA Corps HQ commanding that IABG has now engaged a very formidable asset into war and if all other formations under that Corps HQ are Infantry Divisions then the Corps HQ has become short of armor assets early-on in the war.
Basically, IA has strength in numbers for MBT, IFV, Artillery etc and this is a good way to exploit PA's weakness in numbers. As an example, IA commits 150 MBT and PA commits 100 MBT. If IA attacks in 5 different sectors, thats 750 IA MBT vs 500 PA MBT. So at the first day of battle, 500 PA MBT are already in war for defence, while the main attack by IA has yet to come. PA MBT reserves are extremely less as compared to IA's MBT reserves. Now if PA commits its best and modern 500 MBT's on the first day of war for defence purposes, the chances of an offensive later in war into India with modern MBT's become very less. Ofcourse PA cannot send only infantry to counter IA combined arms IBG. PA may also need to commit gunships/UCAV's early on in the war, which PA would have kept in reserve usually to stop a larger IA armored thrust later on in the war.

Next, the units under command of IBG can be extracted from few different formations, and since IBG itself forms a new formation on its own, so now a new Ad-Hoc formation suddenly shows up on battlefield which can cause confusion for PA. It would be hard to analyse on the spot which units have been shuffled to form an IBG and how much strength/units do the rest of the formations have left under their command now.

Also, even though the IBG will be smaller than a Division but it will be commanded by an officer (Major Gen, 2-Star) who is supposed to command a Division. Now, this relates to an educated guess that the formations under command of an IBG can swell up to a Division strength at some point, and for this task a Brigadier might not be suitable.

Another point is mentioning gunships in IBG's, so far India has used Mi-24 and converted Mi-17's into gunships, but now with the induction of AH-64's, the scenario will look very different and has chances to tilt in India's favour. To protect the IBG's and gunship's IA will call in IAF support and the integration between three services has been mentioned which means PAF will be on the defensive also. All this happening, when the main attack has not even started.

Now, one of many ways for PA to go about is to prepare a Division under every Corps HQ deployed next to the border, with enough strength in troops, MBT, APC, Artillery, SAM's and Gunships/UCAV's to counter or absorb an IBG attack in its respective sector. Then prepare another division under same Corps HQ which simultaneously penetrates inside India on a slightly different axis in the same region. The third division of that Corps HQ remains as reserve. This is however not possible in every theatre of war since some Corps HQ have only two divisions. If executed properly, this not only offsets IA IBG's thrust but leaves a gap for PA to ingress and hold enemy territory. Such an offensive will have higher success rate because majority of IA armor, mechanised infantry and other forces would be used in the IBG attack, and the forces left behind in that sector would mostly be infantry formations, probably in defensive posture.

Another way for countering IBG is to get more mobile; which means greater use of aviation assets forming air assault units with-in PA. Such Units can quickly reinforce threatened sectors and also flank the IBG from any side or try to cut them off completely from the rear. These airborne or air assault forces can show up anywhere with very little reaction time for the enemy.

The use of NASR is always there, but its also good to stay on top of the enemy using conventional methods which the enemy is not expecting.
Easier said then done,at the end of day Air Force would decide who would win.
 
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Indian Army announces new land warfare doctrine
Rahul Bedi, New Delhi - Jane's Defence Weekly
21 December 2018


The Indian Army (IA) is seeking to create integrated battle groups (IBGs), expand its cyber warfare capabilities, and induct energy-directed weapons as well as artificial intelligence-based systems to manage multiple security challenges, the service announced in its Land Warfare Doctrine-2018.

p1734598.jpg
IA cadets take part in a 'tactical continuity training' exercise at an officers training academy in Chennai in March 2018. The IA published its Land Warfare Doctrine-2018 in mid-December. (Arun Sankar/AFP/Getty Images)

Dated 27 November, but published in mid-December, the doctrine states that the IA will employ "composite" IBGs comprising a mix of five to six battalions to execute conventional combat operations for "greater flexibility in force application".

Each IBG, which would be larger than the existing 3,000 personnel-strong brigade but smaller than a 10,000-strong division, would be headed by a two-star officer and include infantry, armoured, artillery, air-defence, and support units, all of which would be backed by attack helicopters.

According to the doctrine, the IA's will also focus on developing cross-domain capabilities, facilitating enhanced jointness and integration among the three services, and optimising the available forces and resources "for effective and robust military responses in a future battlefield milieu".

The IA is also refining its strategies to deal with dangers emanating from "restive, complex and active" border disputes with Pakistan and China and what it referred to as "state-sponsored-terrorism from across the border".

The doctrine states that the IA will deal with "deliberate transgressions" by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) across the disputed 4,057 km-long Line of Actual Control (LoAC) in a "firm and resolute manner" and in "consonance with existing agreements and protocols".

This comes after the IA and the PLA were embroiled in a 72 day-long stand off that ended in August 2017 at the Doklam tri-junction, which is situated along the disputed borders between India, China and Bhutan. The IA is of the view that it faced down the PLA at the time.

The doctrine also states that the IA will continue to carry out counter-insurgency (COIN) operations against Pakistan to "ensure deterrence through punitive measures" such as the September 2016 cross-border 'surgical strike' carried out by IA special forces against suspected militants in the disputed border region of Kashmir.

https://www.janes.com/article/85381/indian-army-announces-new-land-warfare-doctrine?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EBB 12.21.18&utm_term=Editorial - Military - Early Bird Brief


dam an I thought they were going to make Better food for their soldiers.....
 
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