Indian army chief says military ready for short, swift war

[Ind4Ever]

Exactly, a tiny country which has much less to lose in a nuclear exchange as compared to the much larger country. Pakistan will end, but what survives of India will be worse than death.


Exactly, a tiny country which has much less to lose in a nuclear exchange as compared to the much larger country. Pakistan will end, but what survives of India will be in worse shape than what the Pakistanis will already have gone through.

If that has to happen so be it . If yiu are not worried about destruction and lauch proxies against people of India then India will have to respond swiftly . And in turn you want to use nukes then well no one will wait and watch simply without heavy and unacceptable retaliation . We have nukes too .

 

[Nicky G]

India has been refusing plebiscite, why would Pakistan refuse referendum as per UN resolutions. Pakistan has been asking for it for decades. You tell this story so much that you believe in it too.

Go read the resolution. It requires removal of your troops from Kashmir - do that.

 

[ice_man]

Indian Kashmiris already have the right to vote. If you mean referendum, go read UN resolutions and what steps are required. Your country has refused to meet the very first of them.



I am sure the Indian military is not as naive as me, and neither is the Pak one as silly as you.

You can claim what you want - what you have the courage to carry out is entirely different. You lost half your country in '71 and your establishment accepted defeat and ordered your troops to surrender. Why didn't you continue fighting?

As for limited war - Kargil - post Pak acquiring nukes. Entirely possible and likely in the future.

well in OPERATION POKRAM AND 2008 STAND OFF. INDIA KNEW that if they tried we would retaliate massively.

Kargil Pakistan pulled back when we realized India wished to go all out.

Both instances military on both sides realized the gravity of the situation.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

War monger selling his business

and we would retalite with PERMANU FOR KETANUS

if you try to cross the border you would start the war we shall end it



s bluff you say? well for Nukes to be used you need 2 things:

1) Enemy happy to die like the Kamikazes

2) An enemy who rather lose everything the let you have what is his.

some people call it madness. we consider it normal

We just feel that Spartans were considered mad too. So were the great Prussian Armies of Fredrick. so were the Kamkazies

David was said to be insane by everyone including his fellow countrymen when he said he'd take on Goliath. David defeated Goliath and went on to become father of the Jewish faith. Just like David we Pakistanis are facing a giant monster that is 7 times bigger than us. Just like David we Pakistanis are told by the foreigners that we cannot prevail. David and the Israelites were defeated and humiliated at least 20 times by the pagan Arabs from Syria, Iraq and Jordan before the final ultimate victory was there's.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Does not work that way, if Pak is the aggressor as it has always been - it would never be allowed to launch any nukes. You know it, we know it, the world knows it, which is why your nuke threats from your establishment is laughed off.

Who is aggressor? Forgotten Kashmir occupation, supporting of terrorist TTP and any anti state movement in Pakistan. You guys tell lies so much that you start to believe them and sound even convincing to the persons who do not know the facts.

 

[Nicky G]

well in OPERATION POKRAM AND 2008 STAND OFF. INDIA KNEW that if they tried we would retaliate massively.

Kargil Pakistan pulled back when we realized India wished to go all out.

Both instances military on both sides realized the gravity of the situation.

So you skipped why you did not carry fighting in '71 - as expected. Address that and we can move to 2001 and 2008.

To repeat, in the most extreme of situation, your establishment accepted defeat and ordered the biggest post WWII surrender.You didn't have the courage to fight to your destruction then and there is no reason to believe you have the courage to end your country now.

A bluff is a bluff no matter how many times you shout it out.

Who is aggressor? Forgotten Kashmir occupation, supporting of terrorist TTP and any anti state movement in Pakistan. You guys tell lies so much that you start to believe them and sound even convincing to the persons who do not know the facts.

Go read your Musharraf's statement as to who started Taliban and for what?

 

[Dubious]

David and the Israelites were defeated and humiliated at least 20 times by the pagan Arabs from Syria, Iraq and Jordan before the final ultimate victory was there's.

I dont get this part...

 

[Humble Analyst]

Go read the resolution. It requires removal of your troops from Kashmir - do that.

Haha and you are willing to remove troops under UN observers?

 

[Nicky G]

Haha and you are willing to remove troops under UN observers?

Read the resolution. First step is yours - do that and get back to us. If not, you have no ground to ask anything from India.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Read the resolution. First step is your - do that and get back to us. If not, you have no ground to ask anything from India.

Have you agreed to UN resolutions?

 

[Nicky G]

Have you agreed to UN resolutions?

Obviously. Otherwise, there'd be no framework to resolve anything.

On the other hand, Pak doesn't honour Simla agreement - no third party involvement.

 

[ice_man]

So you skipped why you did not carry fighting in '71 - as expected. Address that and we can move to 2001 and 2008.

To repeat, in the most extreme of situation, your establishment accepted defeat and ordered the biggest post WWII surrender.You didn't have the courage to fight to your destruction then and there is no reason to believe you have the courage to end your country now.



Go read your Musharraf's statement as to who started Taliban and for what?

surrender was logical it needed no courage millions of bengalis would have died in the cross fire. Hence rather surrender.When they clearly didn't want to be with us. that was futile.

it was not our country anymore

But neither are you bengalis that we spare you. Nor are we willing to submit to you and neither will this be futile war. So rather take you out along with us.

this bharaaaat rakshaak mentality of your's is not followed by your military leadership.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Will understand once you tart the war. You will be paying the price. Both sides will pay, World will enjoy and sell stuff for reconstruction and more weapons. Enjoy the thought!


Why don't you give Kashmir their right to vote, why are you afraid? Then here is no need for this loss of life.

Why its always India's responsibility to thwart nuclear holocaust ? When you don't give a damn about it ?

On kashmir . Its really unnecessary invasion by Pakistan which in turn costed huge chunk of ur land mass now a happy independent country called Bangladesh . It was you who invaded kashmir .But British and muslim agent Nehru led congress thought this could solve the issue as kashmir is divided into half . What a foolish thing to do . Till now no one knows why it was not retaken and why muslims allowed to live in india when huge landmass given away just for one muslim community . ?

Your best time to invade j and k is ling gone in 1965 itself .When you had superiority over indian armed forces and weak leadership in indian ruling xlass . That too after 1962 heavy loss of morale .
Well its really a news to many indians as pakistan calling and celebrating 1965 as victory . Victory in what sense ?

Did you achieved your task of cutting of punjab ? NO

Did you achieved in occupying J and K under operation named some thing like big bang or some storm (pardon me I don't know its name of the operation?) ? NO

Infact india took your leader by surprise as we did something very special in the history of war . You throwed all your best US technology from jets to superior tanks . You had advantage of surprise . And you managed to shatter our defence . But the way india replied was marvelous . In fact we ended up in Lahore just miles away . But due to pressure from both Americans and soviet india agreed to give away your land back and walked out of Pakistan after signing peace agreement . You call it a Victory ?

 

[Nicky G]

surrender was logical it needed no courage millions of bengalis would have died in the cross fire. Hence rather surrender.When they clearly didn't want to be with us. that was futile.

But neither are you bengalis that we spare you. Nor are we willing to submit to you and neither will this be futile war. So rather take you out along with us.

this bharaaaat rakshaak mentality of your's is not followed by your military leadership.

Ah here come excuses. Just as you find excuses for '71, you'll find excuses for another logical reason to not dare to use nukes.

The only indicator is the past. No one is going to take your word for it. In the past, in the most extreme of situations, you surrendered rather than fight. Implication - rinse and repeat.

What is 'bharaaaat rakshaak'? Also, I do not claim my mentality is followed by anyone.

 

[ice_man]

Ah here come excuses. Just as you find excuses for '71, you'll find excuses for another logical reason to not dare to use nukes.

The only indicator is the past. No one is going to take your word for it. In the past, in the most extreme of situations, you surrendered rather than fight. Implication - rinse and repeat.

What is 'bharaaaat rakshaak'? Also, I do not claim my mentality is followed by anyone.

Well then try to come across by all means test the threshold. and find out if history repeats itself as you claim