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By Sanjeev Miglani NEW DELHI | Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:15am EST (Reuters) - India's army chief threatened to retaliate
against Pakistan for the killing of two soldiers in fighting near the border of the disputed region of
Kashmir, saying he had asked his commanders there to
be aggressive in the face of provocation. General Bikram Singh's remarks come amid mounting public anger
in India after Delhi accused Pakistani soldiers of slitting the throat of
one of the soldiers and decapitating him. Despite each side blaming the other for the worst outbreak of
violence in the area since a ceasefire was agreed nine years ago,
analysts said a breakdown in ties was highly unlikely. The two nations have fought three wars, two over Kashmir, since
independence in 1947 and are now both nuclear-armed. Calling the beheading of the soldier "gruesome", Singh told a news
conference: "We reserve the right to retaliate at a time and place of
our choosing." Singh said the Indian army would honor the ceasefire in Kashmir, so
long as Pakistan did, but would respond immediately to any
violation of the truce. "I expect all my commanders at the Line of Control to be both
aggressive and offensive in the face of provocation and fire," he
said. Last week's fighting in the Himalayan region both nations claim
comes at a time when the two sides have made some progress in
repairing ties, notably by opening trade links. Both armies have lost two soldiers each in the fighting along parts
of the 740-km (460-mile) de facto border this month. "The attack on January 8 was premeditated, a pre-planned activity.
Such an operation requires planning, detailed reconnaissance,"
Singh said. His remarks came hours before local commanders met at a crossing
point on the ceasefire line for the first time since the fighting
erupted to try and reduce tensions. Both sides lodged protests,
accusing each other of ceasefire violations. The ceasefire in Kashmir has held since it went into effect in November 2003, surviving
even the crisis in ties after the Mumbai attacks in November 2008 by Pakistan-based
militants. Analysts said it was unlikely the two armies would escalate the situation further and
that Singh's remarks may well have been made to maintain the morale of his troops and
to respond to a public outcry over the mutilation of both soldiers' bodies. "He is trying to tell Pakistan that it cannot afford to open another front while it is in a
very critical state because of a large number of internal issues," said research fellow
Ashok K. Behuria at the New Delhi-based Institute for Defence Studies and Analysis. "He's under pressure from the Indian people and the media but I don't think that India
will be so proactive as to respond disproportionately to the situation," Behuria said. The family members of the slain Indian soldier, Hemraj Singh, have started a hunger
strike demanding retribution and that his remains be back brought back. The family is
not related to the army chief. "Our demand is not something big. My brother's head should be brought back and the
Pakistanis should be taught a lesson," said Jai Singh in their village in northern India. FLARE-UP The flare-up began on January 6 when Islamabad accused Indian soldiers of entering its
territory and killing a soldier. India said Pakistani soldiers came about 600 meters
(yards) into its territory two days later and killed two Indian soldiers on patrol, the
attack the army chief was referring to. Pakistan said one of its soldiers was killed in further fighting on Thursday. And, at a flag
meeting in Chakan da Bagh in the Poonch sector, Pakistan accused India of a raid across
the ceasefire line last week, a Pakistani army statement said. Tensions at the Kashmir frontier have been rising for some months now with the two
sides exchanging fire near a village in a northern stretch that may have started the latest
series of attacks and counter attacks. Singh said Indian troops had tried to improve their defenses after coming under
constant fire from Pakistan at Charonda village deep in snow-capped mountains in the
Uri sector where Pakistan troops were in an advantageous position. Three civilians including a pregnant 23-year-old had been killed in cross-border fire
from Pakistan in October, he said. "In that areas when you are being fired upon, you don't expect soldiers to walk in the
open. Therefore soldiers have prepared a communication trench, a crawl trench and an
observation post," he said. Such activity was routine and done by both armies to secure
defenses, he said. Pakistan said the construction of concrete defenses was prohibited under the terms of
the ceasefire. Hundreds of people protested on Monday in Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistan-
controlled Kashmir, and in second city Mirpur, accusing India of stepping up tensions. "They (Indians) are bent upon destroying peace along the Line of Control by resorting to
firing without any provocation," Pakistani Kashmir prime minister Chaudhry Abdul
Majeed told the Muzaffarabad rally. Tensions over the hostilities in Kashmir threatened to spill into sport, with members of
India's Mumbai-based right wing Shiv Sena party protesting against the presence of
Pakistani players in a domestic Indian hockey league. The players had to be whisked away and the team subsequently left Mumbai on
Monday for New Delhi, where the inaugural match of the five-team Hockey India League
will be held. "Pakistan is involved in militant attacks on India and you are letting them make money
in India ... this is injustice to the martyrs who have died in these attacks," Rahul
Narvekar, a spokesman for the party told Reuters. (Additional reporting by Satarupa Bhattacharjya in New Delhi and; Abu Arqam Naqash
in Muzaffarabad; Editing by Louise
 
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When we all will learn to act responsibly ? War isn't the solution, no?
 
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What happened won't happen again,if it does,the response will be deadly.

India started it, if they escalate they will get what they deserve.

I, find it ironic that all of the war mongering is coming from India's media attention addict military establishment. Pakistan Army has not issued any such ludicrous statement.
 
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India started it, if they escalate they will get what they deserve.

I, find it ironic that all of the war mongering is coming from India's media attention addict military establishment. Pakistan Army has not issued any such ludicrous statement.

god only knows who started it... and we wont bow back...
 
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Pakistan Army is all ready busy. If they do their part of escalation, they will be handling two fronts. Lets just think rationally, two front war won't be easy for PAK.
 
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India started it, if they escalate they will get what they deserve.

I, find it ironic that all of the war mongering is coming from India's media attention addict military establishment. Pakistan Army has not issued any such ludicrous statement.

Sir, just wondering if Beheading soldiers is just.

Border firing from across both the sides are pretty irrelevant as both does it I am sure, and getting killed by firing/shelling is a different thing.
 
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They are getting drunk with power (Justified or not,yet to be decided).
Such statements can only escelate arms race in the region.
A country like Pakistan who cannot afford to catch up with an agressive,well connected and resourceful enemy in conventional arms race....will have to make up for the gap in non conventional ways.
I dont think a war will be fought anytime soon.
But in case if a massive atrack from india in which Pakistan gets overwhelmed,use of kiloton or sub kiloton range small nukes will be unavoidable..
India will return fire,and a few hundred thousan deaths on both sides later,things will be exactly the same where the war started and there will be no gain for any side..

In all honesty ,after such clear threats from two high ranking Indian commanders,Pakistan should speed up their work on MIRV and medium sizes thermo nuclear bombs,as our security is only guaranteed in mutually assured destruction...
 
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Pakistan Army is all ready busy. If they do their part of escalation, they will be handling two fronts. Lets just think rationally, two front war won't be easy for PAK.

Indians never cease to dream of war.

there is no rational in your question... provided the fact that it will not be conventional war... if happens and you know it.
 
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They are getting drunk with power (Justified or not,yet to be decided).
Such statements can only escelate arms race in the region.
A country like Pakistan who cannot afford to catch up with an agressive,well connected and resourceful enemy in conventional arms race....will have to make up for the gap in non conventional ways.
I dont think a war will be fought anytime soon.
But in case if a massive atrack from india in which Pakistan gets overwhelmed,use of kiloton or sub kiloton range small nukes will be unavoidable..
India will return fire,and a few hundred thousan deaths on both sides later,things will be exactly the same where the war started and there will be no gain for any side..

In all honesty ,after such clear threats from two high ranking Indian commanders,Pakistan should speed up their work on MIRV and medium sizes thermo nuclear bombs,as our security is only guaranteed in mutually assured destruction...

There wont be any MAD. Pak's nuke arsenal will kill probably 100 million -200 million people in India (That still leaves about a billion). Sure India will probably become the worst country in the world, but Pakistan given the size will vanish from the face of earth, with parts of it being absorbed in Afg and Iran. Not a desirable outcome from India's perspective, but just thought I would correct your analysis.
 
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Pakistan Army is all ready busy. If they do their part of escalation, they will be handling two fronts. Lets just think rationally, two front war won't be easy for PAK.

.....which thins the conventional deterrence line and when it thins out we know what becomes more likely.


Sir, just wondering if Beheading soldiers is just.

That is, why we offered a neutral investigation lead by the UN, refused by India. No one has seen, any evidence of any such act so far.

Border firing from across both the sides are pretty irrelevant as both does it I am sure, and getting killed by firing/shelling is a different thing.

Why is it only, Indian chiefs making threats and why is Pakistan's military not making any such ludicrous statements?
 
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.....which thins the conventional deterrence line and when it thins out we know what becomes more likely.

You are kind of right. A War is more harmful for India, since Pakistan, given the situation has very little to lose anyway. So a slippery slope really
 
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