Indian Air Force To Buy 22 Apache Helos

[JanjaWeed]

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NEW DELHI — India’s air force has agreed to purchase 22 Apache AH-64D multirole combat helicopters from Boeing in a deal worth an estimated $1.4 billion.

“The financial bid for attack helos was opened some time last week, and since Russia had withdrawn its Mi-28N Night Hunter, Boeing emerged as the sole bidder,” a senior defense ministry official says.

The Apache deal includes both direct commercial sale (DCS) and foreign military sales (FMS) components. The agreement also includes offset elements and firm, fixed-cost pricing.

The FMS contract includes munitions, training, aircraft certification and components including engines, electro-optical sensors and the fire control radar, which is optional. The DCS contract primarily consists of the aircraft (less engines/sensors), logistic support, spares and services.

A person closely associated with the deal says talks with the U.S. government concerning the FMS, and with Boeing on the DCS, already have started. “We expect the contract to be signed before the end of this financial year [March 31, 2013],” the person says.

Boeing offered its latest Block-III version of the Apache to India in 2009. Russia, which had fielded the Mi-28, announced late last year that it was out of the running after failing to meet several of the air force’s technical requirements.

Boeing says the timing of deliveries will depend on the air force’s specific requirements. According to the request for proposals, deliveries should start within 36 months of the contract signing.

The next-generation version of the original AH-64A Apache, the multimission AH-64D has two high-performance turboshaft engines and can cruise at a maximum speed of 284 kph. The attack helo also has laser, infrared and other systems (including a target acquisition designation sight/pilot night vision sensor) to locate, track and attack targets.

The aircraft carries a combination of laser-guided Hellfire missiles, 70-mm rockets and a 30-mm automatic cannon loaded with up to 1,200 high-explosive, dual-purpose ammunition rounds.

Meanwhile the Indian government also will soon open bids for heavy-lift helicopters and aerial refueling tankers, Indian air force chief, N.A.K. Browne says.

Boeing is offering the Chinook CH-47F and Russia its Mi-26 for the heavy-lift contract. Airbus is offering its A330-based multirole tanker transport against the Russian Ilyushin IL-76 in the race to win the refueler contract.

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[chairborne ranger]

i'm bored of having this news pasted here time and time again. The world know what happening with this. That the ruskies failed to meet the requirements, and that the apache is the last man standing. What ACTUAL development has taken place w.r.t prooccurement?

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

where has gone the plan of building Light attack helicopter then ...........

 

[xuxu1457]

the cost of selling to different country
to US 7million-27million/1 Apache
to Israel 16 million$/ 1 Apache
to Taiwan 100million$/Apache
to Japan 213million$/Apache
to Saudi Arabia 50 million$/Apache
to South Korea 50million$/Apache
to Kuwait 54.8million$/1 apache
to Singapore 58million$/Apache

to India 63.64million$ / 1 Apache

first class: Israel（half sell half send）, US
second class:Australia,UR --30million--48million, Allies
third class other place: 50million-70million, to make money
last Japan and Taiwan, to make more more more.... money

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

the cost of selling to different country
to US 7million-27million/1 Apache
to Israel 16 million$/ 1 Apache
to Taiwan 100million$/Apache
to Japan 213million$/Apache
to Saudi Arabia 50 million$/Apache
to South Korea 50million$/Apache
to Kuwait 54.8million$/1 apache

to India 63.64million$ / 1 Apache

Mostly 70% apaches of above countries are having AH-64A's while India is getting most advanced version Apache AH-64D's.

So price diff is well expected

 

[xuxu1457]

Mostly 70% apaches of above countries are having AH-64A's while India is getting most advanced version Apache AH-64D's.

So price diff is well expected

the cost of selling to different country
to US 7million-27million/1 Apache， AH-64D（25million）
to Israel 16 million$/ 1 Apache
to Taiwan 100million$/Apache，AH-64D
to Japan 213million$/Apache，AH-64DJ
to Saudi Arabia 50 million$/Apache，AH-64D
to South Korea 50million$/Apache，AH-64D
to Kuwait 54.8million$/1 apache，AH-64D

to India 63.64million$ / 1 Apache，AH-64D

by the way, updated one AH64A to AH-64D cost 10 million

 

[chairborne ranger]

where has gone the plan of building Light attack helicopter then ...........

different programme. The IAF is buying these to initially complement, and eventually replace the mi-35 hinds.

the lch which you refer to is scheduled for ioc by 2013 end. Around 180 will be bought, of which the army will directly have 115, and will also control the 65 which are flown by air force. hope this helped

 

[Kesang]

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[janon]

the cost of selling to different country
to US 7million-27million/1 Apache， AH-64D（25million）
to Israel 16 million$/ 1 Apache
to Taiwan 100million$/Apache，AH-64D
to Japan 213million$/Apache，AH-64DJ
to Saudi Arabia 50 million$/Apache，AH-64D
to South Korea 50million$/Apache，AH-64D
to Kuwait 54.8million$/1 apache，AH-64D

to India 63.64million$ / 1 Apache，AH-64D

by the way, updated one AH64A to AH-64D cost 10 million

Check out what other purchases are happening along with the helis in each case. India is also buying a truckload of missiles, support equipments and other stuff. Each country has different requirements for the total package, hence the difference in price. Also, the cost per unit would be high when making the first purchase, because of the training, support and mainainence facilities that are also created. The US had all those existing in place for the AH-64A.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1111030/jsp/frontpage/story_14685288.jsp

The entire deal is likely to involve a direct commercial sale of the helicopter by the firm (Boeing) to India and a foreign military sale (a government-to-government transaction) of 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 An/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 Hellifire Longbow missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 Hellfire-11 missiles, 245 Stinger Block I-92H missiles and 23 modernised target acquisition designation sight/pilot night vision sensors, rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition and other logistic supplies.

So subtract the price of all that and then divide by the price that remains by 22 to get the right unit cost. Then find out what each country's package had and do a similar analysis to arrive at a comparitive chart, before branding the world into first class, second class and otheer such classifications. And does it occur to you that the IAF or the forces of other countries would already have done all this before you, to know that they were being charged legitimate prices?

The MoD and finance ministry are very miserly when spending taxpayers' money, hence the need for an open contract and technical bids and comparitive testing for each big ticket time. An open country does not squander public money in black budgets or hide any info from their own people.

 

[Jason bourne]

Check out what other purchases are happening along with the helis in each case. India is also buying a truckload of missiles, support equipments and other stuff. Each country has different requirements for the total package, hence the difference in price. Also, the cost per unit would be high when making the first purchase, because of the training, support and mainainence facilities that are also created. The US had all those existing in place for the AH-64A.

Are you online on FB ?

 

[xuxu1457]

76000$/1 Hellfire missile （with Training and logistics）,90million can buy 1180 Hellfire missiles and with Training and logistics
what I listed are also cluding Training and logistics and missiles

 

[Bang Galore]

The MoD and finance ministry are very miserly when spending taxpayers' money, hence the need for an open contract and technical bids and comparitive testing for each big ticket time. An open country does not squander public money in black budgets or hide any info from their own people.

Especially since the CAG will be going through these deals with a fine comb.

 

[sudhir007]

the cost of selling to different country
to US 7million-27million/1 Apache
to Israel 16 million$/ 1 Apache
to Taiwan 100million$/Apache
to Japan 213million$/Apache
to Saudi Arabia 50 million$/Apache
to South Korea 50million$/Apache
to Kuwait 54.8million$/1 apache
to Singapore 58million$/Apache

to India 63.64million$ / 1 Apache

first class: Israel（half sell half send）, US
second class:Australia,UR --30million--48million, Allies
third class other place: 50million-70million, to make money
last Japan and Taiwan, to make more more more.... money

Along with 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 HELLFIRE LONGBOW missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 HELLFIRE II missiles, 245 STINGER Block I-92H missiles, and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors, rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition, transponders, simulators, global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, communication equipment, spare and repair parts; tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment; publications and technical documentation,

 

[Raje amar]

Along with 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 HELLFIRE LONGBOW missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 HELLFIRE II missiles, 245 STINGER Block I-92H missiles, and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors, rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition, transponders, simulators, global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, communication equipment, spare and repair parts; tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment; publications and technical documentation,

some people as DUMB as they could get when it comes to show hoe INDIA is been wasting its money. never mind.

@topic
only news are comming when will the delivaries actually start????????????

 

[JohnyD]

Happy to see offset and fix costing are part of the deal...