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1) Where did you read me saying that -16's are stealth? My post was mere mocking the silly article, hope you got the sarcasm out of it. I know the -16 A LOT more than you do. So I know how unstealthy it is.
2) Aggression is not usually a "retaliatory" action. Its the first one. So the big "retaliatory" strikes don't mean it was the aggressiveness, as you own post suggest. Those were "a response" to the actual aggression. Plus, its very easy to send BIG retaliatory strikes to an enemy SEVEN times smaller than you. Try doing that to the Chinese or a country your side.
Interesting part is, the SEVEN times smaller country has got you SO obsessed with them that I find it rather interesting!!
3) The "two front war" is a pipe dream. I can assure you of that. The only nation that has that capability is the US. Even Russia will reach her threshold if it was to go to war with a couple of Central Russian States, the EU at the same time (keeping the US out of it, just for simple comparisons). The Russians, for the next three years, are ONLY good to act like a big bear and fly their bombers across. For "actual" war....there is billions of dollars required and a force ready to go. Neither of which Russia has or can afford right now!!
4) Those 400 jet big exercises were to appease the Hindu nationalists about the soup-o-paowah India. Nothing more. In reality, the Chinese alone will field over 400 jets at a time in case of a way, and Pakistan I think, has about 300-400 battle ready jets like the Israelis. So not sure how "Swing" roles can 400 jets do while facing serious attrition.
You are talking like the 400 jets will go attack one place and without any loss, they'll go to the next war zone. Its a story like Kids in the Zoo going from animal to animal for fun.
5) The mighty SU-30's case.....well, in Pakistan and India's case, how do you track an F-16 (or multiple) from 300-400 miles away due to the supa-dupa radar of the SU, when the planes aren't even airborne???
Both the SU and the -16 will see each other within 100-140 KM range as when the SU's are detected, the -16's are scrambled. I heard the SU was taking an Indian astronaut to the moon too, let alone scrambling them on a UFO. You guys are too advanced for the world. You can keep these macho stories to yourself, no one on here is impressed with childish comments, irrelevant to the post.
6) Thrust vector...what do you want me to tell you about that? I am hating to destroy your little imagination. But here, the TV is ONLY good for one maneuver. For example, one missile chasing after the SU, the SU does cobra maneuver and say loses the lock. But for the next 15 seconds (which is too long in jet fights), the mighty SU is literally like a Duck sitting in a Pond. The SU would've bled all the energy and would be picking it back up and would be unable to do any serious maneuvers. With 4-6 BVR missiles, drop tanks or heavier loads....take the recovery time to 25-30 seconds.
And this gap is the best time to use AIM-9X or Guns after the SU pulls Cobra, you then pull a Sidewinder, end of the show. Too much for TV.
The US military has pioneered pretty much all military technologies. There was a reason they didn't really care for TV as much.
Last, in Russia's case and dog fights....the US war machine is right. The Dog fight era is over. The US strategy is take out majority of the enemy's air defense and fighters before the actual combat even starts, and enforce Air Dominance, if not total Air Supremacy.
The -22 can each take out half the squadron of jets, even if you divided than number by half, a few -22's can take down a couple of squadrons of enemy's top end jets, like the SU-30's and all. IMO, 25 -22's should be able to take out about 4-5 enemy planes at the minimal, that's over 100 enemy jets taken out, without them knowing what hit them and from where!!
Very disappiunting reply.@Viper0011.
1) Next time mention it in a bracket like ( am just kidding or its sarcastic ) or people will think you are a Moron. Read it comments it's sarcastic but your knowledge itself.
2) so per your stupid conclusion 1st strike is aggression. So even if retaliation is way beyond the 1st strike it's not aggression but pure love ? FYI kid Aggression is a way of expression of anger . 1st or 15th strike there can be aggressive retaliation too you dumbo.
---- On Pakistan obsession. We don't care about western front any more. It will take another 30 years just to match our current fleet given the economic situation of our western neighbour .We are focused on our eastern front. We are not lagging behing on capabilities but we lost of precious time to develop infra and modernise them . We are doing it now. With our new government working hard . They already outclassed our expectations. And still going on .
3) Wonder what you are thinking about Russia !!! Seriously you are a kid. Russians are not Cuba or Mexico. They are the most dangerous super power which will challenge entire US Nato forces single handedly . Go through the history kid . It's a big subject to understand with the Knowledge you posses which says F16 will poss a huge challenge for IAF Su 30 MKI . Kid let me let you these money problems won't last for long at the times of war. All you need is technology , resources and manpower . This the survival of a civilisation we are taking about . Every single Russian will take part at the times of war . Read about How Russia bounced back from being invaded to invading the mighty Germany. And check the ways they used to produce needed weapons in short time. US just can dream about invading Russia. That's why you have whole European and US have ganged yo bang the single mighty Russia .... lol Moron
4) Most popular joke of urs. India deployed 400 combat jets with 200 other aircraft from heli to tankers for an exercise . This is not computer game where in one scene you declare war and in other in next part you will be in battle field flying 300 for 16 Mr. Fan boy. It need lots of preparation and planning to organise what we presume as two front offensive . And you telling that China will just right way send it's 20 - 40 squadron against India ... how foolish was that. If IAF decides to initiate it's offensive it's first and foremost objective will be to destroy the Airfield and paralyse the enemy .... So don't be a stupid . Again kid it's not play station to play again . It's all in if it comes down to survival .
And result don't have to be in the favour of numbers . But the technology of the weapon system and the ability of the pilots. I don't talk about pilots ability it's not fair. All humans are equally capable . So on technology basis Sukoi MKI are far more advanced than F16/F18/J10 /J11 / Chinese flankers 27 s or Su 30 MK2 /MK . Su 30 MK2 is originally inferior to MKI . WHICH FORMS THE MAIN ATTACK FIGHTER OF PLAAF . So with 272 MKI we will in good position to handle two front war . For our western neighbour our upgraded Mig 29 , mirage jags will do the trick . For China we will throw our maximum Flankers to take out our enemy airstrip and so paralysing it's air combatants. So Get real kid ...
5) Do even know the difference between Miles and Kilometres ? And what kind nonsense is this. MKI and F16 will detect each other at the same distance .As per you it will be 100-150 km .... WOOOW great . So is this also sarcastic or your real face which you are ashamed of ? Huh. ... let prove how stupid is this .
MKI RADAR : Note Russians usually calculate with 5 m2 as RCS margin.
N011M has a 400 km search range and a maximum 200 km tracking range, and 60 km in the rear hemisphere. The radar can track 15 air targets and engage 4 simultaneously.These targets can even include cruise missiles and motionless helicopters.
Now your Stealth fighter F16 . As it as to be stealth to evade N011M for at least 200 km of its range . With RCS of 4-5 m2 in clean configuration look at your radar range if super fighter F16
F16 Radar -- Range: 296.32 km, 184 miles
Range for 5m2 aerial target is 105km ....
Did you see what will happen ? Even before you get a lock on Su30 mki your pilot have to either abort or perform evasive measures . As 2 BVR missiles will be on you from very high altitude . Even before you can realise about incoming sukois. With play load of 8 T and with numerous hard points MKI pilots can afford to Fire 4 targets simultaneously and pull back for the next following fighters to finish the task .
So are going say that you are being psychiatric or sarcastic .... ? Better accept your nonsense. Own it like a man . These are u r own words .
6) This is amazing comedy ever !!!! Explain to me how did you expected that IAF pilot will stall and float in the air when it's been chased by enemy jets ... ? How moronic was that ? Don't you think these are done for the airshow just to show the abilities of the pilot and the machines itself ? For example when your super Fighter F16 is chasing our MKI in a dog fight these MKI can decelerate and let F16 pass through and so now from being a prey Sukois will start to hunting down in a dog fight mode. We can position the angle to lock F16 and fire with cannon or heat seeking short range missiles and have the splash !!! All the performance in the air show are the collection of tactics used in the real fight . It depends upon the situation and mind set if the pilot whether to accelerate or decelerate . Pull up or pull right. ... Under stood kid ? So we won't stand there like duck or peacock .
And what was that ? F22 will take down half the dozen MKI squadron ? How the hell ? Do explain with states how you came to this brilliant conclusion ( best u r brain can do) ?
What did you think F22 is some kind of invisible fighter with no physical properties ? Do ever understand the stealth and counter measures ?
Well I am not aware of countering stealth but I know for sure that when loud mouth like you keep shouting about 1 F22 will kill 10 sukois are nothing but bulshit. Do
For example Your super power F16 ever happen to face under development tejas in 1:10 ratio then your pilot will have few options left to run back or die like a brave heart . It's a done deal . And with drops tanks and missiles your
F16 will have to drop the drop tanks and start evading when high altitude and long range fighter like su 30 MKI
So all your comments are sarcasm or mention in brackets that ( All I saw is for fun or in sarcastic way or am a moron so don't care what I saw) so people can mover on.
Very disappiunting reply.
That proves Viper right.
Very disappiunting reply.
That proves Viper right.