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Su 30mk's at Jodhpur base.

I thought all Mk's are upgraded to Mki standard:undecided:........ on second thought did they left some of them to train our pilots against them?:azn:

That are Su 30 MKs (Mig 29s have different wing design and color scheme), but google obviously didn't upgraded the pic since years, because they were sold back to Russia and we got brand new MKIs instead.


can anyone please shade some light on leased tuplove . is it a bomber what kinda armament ?..

The Tupolev Tu-142 is used by the navy as a long range maritime patrol aircraft, but they will be replaced soon by Boeing P8Is.
 
That are Su 30 MKs (Mig 29s have different wing design and color scheme), but google obviously didn't upgraded the pic since years, because they were sold back to Russia and we got brand new MKIs instead.

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any source to confirm it?
 
The Tupolev Tu-142 is used by the navy as a long range maritime patrol aircraft, but they will be replaced soon by Boeing P8Is.

but i read somewere its a strategic bomber and also there is no perfect info abt its numbers in indian airforse navy .:0
 
but i read somewere its a strategic bomber and also there is no perfect info abt its numbers in indian airforse navy .:0

The Tu 142's In Navy are Primarily Used for Long range Patrol Reconaissance , But they Surely can Carry Out Bombing Missions Because of Its Payload Bay

we Have 8 Tu-142

They are to be Replaced By P8 I's

The P8I's for India will Come With Harpoon Missile and Torpedos for ASW Roles
 

Su 30mk's at lohegaon Air Base

In 2006

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In 2008

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In 2011

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I think they are still in India:whistle:

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[/COLOR]DRDO in talks with SNECMA on JV of Kaveri Engine, IAF clears engine specs

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In written reply to Rajya Sabha today. Defence Minister Shri AK Antony ,informed that DRDO is currently negotiating with M/s SNECMA, France for co-development and co-production of Kaveri Aero Engine for the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mk-II.

Indian Air Force (lAF) has been consulted at every stage and is part of negotiation for the co-development of Kaveri engine. The draft engine technical specification has been examined and cleared by IAF and has further suggested that the engine design should have minimal impact on the LCA, Tejas airframe for future retro-fitment.
The project proposal will be put up for Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) approval after the completion of price negotiation.
“Indian Air Force (IAF) has been consulted at every stage and is part of negotiation. IAF has cleared the Kaveri engine co-development proposal with M/s Snecma, France. The draft engine technical specification has been examined and cleared by IAF.
 
F-35 is not an Ideal Choice for India

Laxman K Behera

November 23, 2011

The recent Pentagon report on US-India Security Cooperation which indicates the possible sale of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to India has created a hubbub in the media. Some have even gone to the extent of suggesting that New Delhi should scrap its ongoing, half-a-decade, effort to procure 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft from European countries and instead buy the F-35, the only fifth generation fighter that is available for international customers. However, a careful analysis would show that the F-35 is not an ideal choice for India for a variety of reasons ranging from the delay in its developmental schedule, a tight production line, prohibitive cost, India’s own efforts to jointly develop and produce a fifth generation fighter with its traditional supplier, Russia, and little technological or industrial benefits that would accrue to India from the F-35 purchase.

The first and foremost reason why F-35 is not the ideal choice for India is that the fighter is yet to come out from its developmental phase to the production floor and for exports. The radar evading plane, the biggest ever collaborative project involving the US and eight international partners (UK, Canada, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Italy Turkey and Australia), is still facing many design and technological complexities, which have pushed back the original induction schedule by three years from 2013 to 2016. Even if New Delhi believes in the revised induction schedule and places orders now, deliveries to India are unlikely to commence immediately thereafter. With over 3,000 assured orders for the F-35, including 2,443 units from the US alone, Lockheed Martin, the prime contractor for the plane, would be constrained in meeting its export obligations before executing the existing orders.

The second reason why F-35 is of little relevance to India is because New Delhi’s own efforts to jointly build and develop the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) with Russia. Consequent to the government-to-government agreement in 2007, India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Rosoboronexport of Russia signed an agreement in 2010 for the preliminary design (PD) of the FGFA at a cost of $295 million. As per the agreement, HAL and Sukhoi Design Bureau (Russia) will undertake the PD for 18 months, followed by Full Scale Design and Development to be undertaken in a separate contract. India has already made it clear that it wishes to procure around 250 FGFAs, with the likely induction starting from 2018 onwards. Given this, it will be quite difficult, if not impossible, for India to go with the US which would be the only county in the world to operate two classes of 5th generation fighters (F-22 and F-35) in the coming years.

The third reason why F-35 is not an ideal choice for India is because of the fighter’s prohibitive cost. As reported by the Pentagon’s Select Acquisition Report, issued in December 2010, the unit procurement cost of F-35 (at 2010 prices) stands at $132.8 million. For the non cost-sharing international customers, the unit cost would be much higher because they are expected to pay a part of the F-35’s developmental cost, which has ballooned to total nearly $55 billion at the end of 2010. The higher price for non-partnering nations is evident from the unit cost of $144.7 million that Israel has agreed to pay for 19 of these fighter aircraft. At this price tag, affordability becomes the key issue for India, whose whole annual defence capital acquisition budget barely matches with the US’s one year F-35 acquisition cost. Although it can be argued that a few F-35s can perform the role of many existing or planned planes in the IAF’s inventory, this argument does not hold ground as the ongoing debate in India between numbers and capability still favours the former.

Last, but not the least, from the defence industrial and technological point of view, there is little that India can benefit from the procurement of F-35, which, if at all happens, will most likely be an off-the-shelf purchase, rather than involve technology transfer to India for license production. Technological secrecy has been a major cornerstone of the US defence programme in general and F-35 in particular. It is noteworthy that despite the F-35 being a multi-country developmental project, core technologies have been denied by the US to its partnering nations. This has often been a stumbling block between the US and its cost-sharing partners, forcing some to threaten to quit the project or reduce their procurement numbers of F-35s from what was originally intended. Even the UK, the closest ally of the US and the only level-1 partner for the F-35 programme, has been denied some core technologies to independently maintain and upgrade the fighter. Compared to this likely technology denial, India’s initial contribution to the FGFA is believed to be around 25 per cent, which can progressively increase if HAL shows maturity in its indigenisation process. Given the technological and industrial benefits of the FGFA and the absence thereof with respect to the F-35, it makes little sense for India to choose the F-35.

F-35 is not an Ideal Choice for India | Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses
 
any source to confirm it?

Besides Nirvanas sources:

...The Su-30K aircraft were originally planned to be upgraded to MKI standard, but this plan was abandoned for financial reasons. Instead India ordered 18 additional new-built Su-30MKI from Irkut, putting the number of aircraft fully produced in Russia at 50. Russia will buy back the Su-30Ks for $12 million per aircraft, planning to upgrade them to Su-30KN and resell them (see Belarus entry)...

MILAVIA Aircraft - Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker Operators


...Irkut Corporation delivered to India over 100 aircraft and technological kits for their license production by Hindustan Aeronautics ltd. Since 2007 the Su-30MKI phases I and II are being upgraded to final technical configuration. Moreover in 2007 the contracts were signed to supply the IAF with 18 Su-30MKI aircraft in lieu of earlier inducted Su-30K and to deliver additional batch of 40 Su-30MKI.

http://www.russianavia.net/index.php#state=NewsDetail&id=637


but i read somewere its a strategic bomber and also there is no perfect info abt its numbers in indian airforse navy .:0

In Russian airforce, not in any Indian force. For India only the MPA version was bought or interesting and you can't hide these kind of big aircrafts that easily.
 
Actually mate, this isn't the NAL SARAs but the old ASP (Airborne Survelienvce Patform)
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Airborne Surveillance Platform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Hence the computers on show are for such purposes.
Thanks!
I was searching for the rear facing props but posted it as Saras due to lack of clarity in these pics!
On a side note-This may be one of the reasons for the CABS AWACS project to be progressing so fast and also this is what makes me believe that the Tejas Mark2 will take a lot less time to get into the IAF:)
 
Thanks!
I was searching for the rear facing props but posted it as Saras due to lack of clarity in these pics!
On a side note-This may be one of the reasons for the CABS AWACS project to be progressing so fast and also this is what makes me believe that the Tejas Mark2 will take a lot less time to get into the IAF:)

Yes, no doubt. The learning process is always going to be tricky, hard and painful but the lessons learned are more than worth the initial hardship.
 
can someone enlighten me on the differences b/w Indian UCAV and IUSAP(Indian Unmanned Strike Aircraft program) AKA the AURA??? when is the first prototype for both of these going to fly???
Thanks :)
 
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