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There's a saying in China when the lips are gone so will the teeth.
India supporting US in Asia to contain China seems fine on the surface, but what happens when you want them to leave?
China, while seeming aggressive, is the only force in Asia capable of driving the US out, because of its military, but most importantly economy.
US is an outside force, they can do what they want and if **** hits the fan, they can leave. We are asians, if things don't turn out good we are screwed.
Vietnam, Philippines have a short memory, I hope India is not the same way, especially since India is in no danger what so ever.
That's the thing
The aggressive nature of Chinese polices and it's way of handling border disputes are prime reason why many Asian nations have welcomed Asia Pivot
In other words, this 'welcome' is warning to China by India, regarding the incursion and stance China has taken
There's a saying in China when the lips are gone so will the teeth.
India supporting US in Asia to contain China seems fine on the surface, but what happens when you want them to leave?
China, while seeming aggressive, is the only force in Asia capable of driving the US out, because of its military, but most importantly economy.
US is an outside force, they can do what they want and if **** hits the fan, they can leave. We are asians, if things don't turn out good we are screwed.
Vietnam, Philippines have a short memory, I hope India is not the same way, especially since India is in no danger what so ever.
This pivot is not only aimed at China. It's also aimed at containing India in the long term. Whatever the US does in Asia, is aimed at keeping any Asian challenger to its hegemony.
India will find out what a ruthless power the United States really is. When India becomes a big economic power and is close to surpassing American power, watch the US form alliances with India's neighbours to contain India.
There's a saying in China when the lips are gone so will the teeth.
India supporting US in Asia to contain China seems fine on the surface, but what happens when you want them to leave?
China, while seeming aggressive, is the only force in Asia capable of driving the US out, because of its military, but most importantly economy.
US is an outside force, they can do what they want and if **** hits the fan, they can leave. We are asians, if things don't turn out good we are screwed.
Vietnam, Philippines have a short memory, I hope India is not the same way, especially since India is in no danger what so ever.
This is drinking poison to quench the thirst, India chinese military and to an extent is not so far away that India can't possibly win or get overran. However Americans can.
The lesser of two evils is China, China needs stability in the region, maybe she feels current instability is a must, but future stability is something she wants and needs. Same cannot be said for the US. A weak Asia is something that works for US.
Your argument that it's a warning to China, well who are you going to use to warn America?
This is drinking poison to quench the thirst, India chinese military and to an extent is not so far away that India can't possibly win or get overran. However Americans can.
The lesser of two evils is China, China needs stability in the region, maybe she feels current instability is a must, but future stability is something she wants and needs. Same cannot be said for the US. A weak Asia is something that works for US.
Your argument that it's a warning to China, well who are you going to use to warn America?
This is drinking poison to quench the thirst, India chinese military and to an extent is not so far away that India can't possibly win or get overran. However Americans can.
The lesser of two evils is China, China needs stability in the region, maybe she feels current instability is a must, but future stability is something she wants and needs. Same cannot be said for the US. A weak Asia is something that works for US.
Your argument that it's a warning to China, well who are you going to use to warn America?
This is drinking poison to quench the thirst, India chinese military and to an extent is not so far away that India can't possibly win or get overran. However Americans can.
The lesser of two evils is China, China needs stability in the region, maybe she feels current instability is a must, but future stability is something she wants and needs. Same cannot be said for the US. A weak Asia is something that works for US.
Your argument that it's a warning to China, well who are you going to use to warn America?
Whats your opinion, chinese policies are pushing stability? Don't you think their policymakers are making a mistake somewhere?
That's on the cards yes, would any country want instability over stability? No, but there are times when it is a necessity. Pakistan and India has fought a couple of times, does this mean India is looking for instability? No, but at that time, there is no other choice.
That's beside my point anyways.
My question is, who is going to warn America when China "falls?" Once you open the door for America, they won't want to leave. If nothing else, it at least makes your country look like a pawn of America and does wonders for your prestige.
I don't buy this keeping sea lanes open crap, first, only Americans are stupid enough to buy our cheapest made crap that even we don't buy. Only Americans are stupid enough to invest in Chinese ponzi schemes when we don't even do it, only American tourists are stupid enough to get ripped off five times a day in China when it is apparent to every Chinese and other tourists what's happening, and only Americans are desperate enough to marry our ugly, old divorced woman when our men would rather be gay than do that.
So looking at these facts we can see that China' wants the seas open, I mean who else are we going to rip off? India? Not likely.
Like a prostitute, enticing Mafia bosses to the region. Repulsive.
Not sure I fully follow your post. Just to make my point clear, I KNOW what US is selling here, but the smaller nations around - why is china making provocations? Take the current issue at Ladakh - the LAC is loosely demarcated and forces of both countries have patrolled some parts for many decades, why would china suddenly put up tents there - in a completely deserted area, if not to provoke?
And India is a giant compared to the other smaller nations around china, why is china provoking others and forcing the door open for USA???