India-US-Japan Malabar exercise at Guam in June

[Panzerfaust 3]

But this news tells us a reality —— the American Defense Center has been transferred back to Guam. they have been unable to adhere to the "first island chain"...

China has been building artificial islands in total violation of international law , claiming territory that doesn't belong to it
The only friends China has are north Korea and Pakistan and presently no country like china's cheap products that are causing damage to their own domestic industry
USA has already increased the duty on Chinese goods it's a matter of time before European union does it
And if we talk about this defence of first island chain it's not going to be good for you once every neighboring country turns against you, and belive me they have already turned againda china

 

[SBUS-CXK]

No its becasue i didn;t want to run into a idiot.... thread related to the bus is a huge example.

Now on topic.. i suggest you to look back the last incidents where your media and generals barkked like dog for exercises and other events that India took place..

And hell ya... tell your master CCP to stop asking us to join.... when you start to favor our causes we'll think about favoring you.. kid

Ah, the bus thread is just proof that you lack aesthetic standards. Can we stop talking about it?

In the past, things like India publicized "surgical strike" and "2.5 line war". or a series of border provocations. Once again back to 1959. India has seriously misjudged its power... I guess that after 3 years, India will say "China again sneak attacks India."

Thanks for your correction. Please don't regard polite invitation as begging. China does not waste time in India.

 

[Chhatrapati]

You think too much, though Australia insists on clash with China, but China never cares about it. Australia just wants to get a lot of attention.

Australia is one of your escape plan from the Communist-owned country called China after US and Canada. So, better stay put. Many of the PB members have their kids in ivy league schools in west and Aus and NZ and they don't want anything bad right?
Hilarious you mention the CCP owned nation called China don't care. You care too much that your foreign ministry was claiming all victim on the recent crackdown of Chinese spies in Aus. To a level that, you even called it a racist attack on Chinese.

Should I bring them videos when you reply to each and every comment made by Australian politicians against China. Oh, not to mention the recent engagement with Australian ships moving through your South China sea and CCP spokespersons played it down and called it "friendly encounter" . You know why, because you have a trade war like scenario with US, you can't afford another one with Australia. That's why you termed the engagement as friendly encounter lol. Now, China acts more tamed.

 

[Panzerfaust 3]

Australia is one of your escape plan from the Communist-owned country called China after US and Canada. So, better stay put. Many of the PB members have their kids in ivy league schools in west and Aus and NZ and they don't want anything bad right?
Hilarious you mention the CCP owned nation called China don't care. You care too much that your foreign ministry was claiming all victim on the recent crackdown of Chinese spies in Aus. To a level that, you even called it a racist attack on Chinese.

Should I bring them videos when you reply to each and every comment made by Australian politicians against China. Oh, not to mention the recent engagement with Australian ships moving through your South China sea and CCP spokespersons played it down and called it "friendly encounter" . You know why, because you have a trade war like scenario with US, you can't afford another one with Australia. That's why you termed the engagement as friendly encounter lol. Now, China acts more tamed.

Chinese think they can damage our industries and markets with cheap goods , they think nobody in this world will stand upto them
European union will be the next to impose huge duties on Chinese goods the rest of the countries will follow
Even India has been growing concerned over the trade deficit with China , and also there's been a movement going on to reject Chinese goods ,there was a drop of 30 to 50% in the sales of their products during the Diwali season, we are going to impose a anti dumping duty on Chinese goods in the near future
China has been hostile to every single neighbor except a few like N Korea they will return the favour someday ,
China will be tamed both economically and militarily

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Australia is one of your escape plan from the Communist-owned country called China after US and Canada. So, better stay put. Many of the PB members have their kids in ivy league schools in west and Aus and NZ and they don't want anything bad right?
Hilarious you mention the CCP owned nation called China don't care. You care too much that your foreign ministry was claiming all victim on the recent crackdown of Chinese spies in Aus. To a level that, you even called it a racist attack on Chinese.

Should I bring them videos when you reply to each and every comment made by Australian politicians against China. Oh, not to mention the recent engagement with Australian ships moving through your South China sea and CCP spokespersons played it down and called it "friendly encounter" . You know why, because you have a trade war like scenario with US, you can't afford another one with Australia. That's why you termed the engagement as friendly encounter lol. Now, China acts more tamed.

Can you stop talking about CCP? Really, you can directly say "China". btw, I haven't seen CCTV any news for 10 years. So you say "the foreign ministry statement." I almost completely don't know.

About Australia, it's like India. You want to be concerned, but you lack strength. Your strength is not in direct proportion to your arrogance.

Does anyone think Australia and India can challenge China?

Chinese think they can damage our industries and markets with cheap goods , they think nobody in this world will stand upto them
European union will be the next to impose huge duties on Chinese goods the rest of the countries will follow
Even India has been growing concerned over the trade deficit with China , and also there's been a movement going on to reject Chinese goods ,there was a drop of 30 to 50% in the sales of their products during the Diwali season, we are going to impose a anti dumping duty on Chinese goods in the near future
China has been hostile to every single neighbor except a few like N Korea they will return the favour someday ,
China will be tamed both economically and militarily

Is this the new fantasy of the superpower 2012 India?
It seems that a backward agricultural country like India. Does it have the right to choose???

 

[Chhatrapati]

Can you stop talking about CCP? Really, you can directly say "China".

Communist party owns the country. I'm not wrong. They own your army, as PLAAN pledge allegiance to the party. Not the state. So, it's basically a country owned by CCP.

I haven't seen CCTV any news for 10 years. So you say "the foreign ministry statement." I almost completely don't know.

Then you are at the wrong place to discuss about Australia. Now may be a good time to start.

About Australia, it's like India. You want to be concerned, but you lack strength. Your strength is not in direct proportion to your arrogance.

Do you know what exactly arrogance is? Calling a large chunk of the region like South China sea as your own giving no respect for any international law. As by any law, you have no claim over the region. That's why Internation courts throw out your claim. Building artificial island in the region and arming those islands. (Though most countries give two fucks about it). Your arrogance will result in your demise.

Does anyone think Australia and India can challenge China?

A Vietnam can challenge China. You think it's easy to beat any of the countries with a small army. Ask the Americans they will say how hard it was to deal with Iraq. Tiny Taiwan can do enough damage to you economically. Forget about India or Australia.

 

[Panzerfaust 3]

Can you stop talking about CCP? Really, you can directly say "China". btw, I haven't seen CCTV any news for 10 years. So you say "the foreign ministry statement." I almost completely don't know.

About Australia, it's like India. You want to be concerned, but you lack strength. Your strength is not in direct proportion to your arrogance.

Does anyone think Australia and India can challenge China?


Is this the new fantasy of the superpower 2012 India?
It seems that a backward agricultural country like India. Does it have the right to choose???

Perhaps you didn't know we are no longer the 80's agriculture based economy ,we are the fastest growing major economy in the world ,we only suffer because we have unequal distribution of wealth and corruption
Its not a fantasy but a reality , you will see in the following years that the countries bullied by the Chinese policies of expansionism and trade imbalance will impose anti dumping duties on Chinese goods
You have been misusing the free trade agreements and you will pay for it

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Communist party owns the country. I'm not wrong. They own your army, as PLAAN pledge allegiance to the party. Not the state. So, it's basically a country owned by CCP.


Then you are at the wrong place to discuss about Australia. Now may be a good time to start.


Do you know what exactly arrogance is? Calling a large chunk of the region like South China sea as your own giving no respect for any international law. As by any law, you have no claim over the region. That's why Internation courts throw out your claim. Building artificial island in the region and arming those islands. (Though most countries give two fucks about it). Your arrogance will result in your demise.

A Vietnam can challenge China. You think it's easy to beat any of the countries with a small army. Ask the Americans they will say how hard it was to deal with Iraq. Tiny Taiwan can do enough damage to you economically. Forget about India or Australia.

1, CCP has nothing to do with me. It's like the Ming Dynasty completely owned China.
2, no. This is a "routine action" and we are used to it.
3, Ah, Philippines is our weapon customer now. Malaysia has imported our warships. Thailand is our traditional weapon customer and ally. Vietnam and China are easing relations. So what do you do in SCS?
4, Macarthur and Brezhnev think so too.

Perhaps you didn't know we are no longer the 80's agriculture based economy ,we are the fastest growing major economy in the world ,we only suffer because we have unequal distribution of wealth and corruption
Its not a fantasy but a reality , you will see in the following years that the countries bullied by the Chinese policies of expansionism and trade imbalance will impose anti dumping duties on Chinese goods
You have been misusing the free trade agreements and you will pay for it

ah, good.good.

 

[Nalini]

Disgraceful that we aren't allowed to participate in the exercise.

We might be a small country but we are more professional than the Americans, India and the Japanese.

Pathetic.

India’s relations with China involve the four C’s – conflict, competition, cooperation and containment. The areas of conflict are well known – the border, and China’s relationship with Pakistan.

India cooperate on a range of areas with China; India was among the early supporters of the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank and is, of course, a partner of China in BRICS and of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

New Delhi believes that Beijing’s arms build up at our borders, frequent Chinese flexing muscles by intruding inside our territories to bully us, meddling with our neighbors & the policies in South Asia are aimed at preventing India from playing a larger extra-regional role, which China brushes it off as India's illusion. So we are giving the same feel for China. Now China thinks, India is trying to contain its rise in collaboration with the US, Japan, Vietnam & Australia. India meddling in SCS, building Naval base in Vietnam, boycotting the Belt road meet & Doklam stand off has been a shock of a development for China, that India was willing to take on China & even risk a gamble to give a message to China. China normally always have a tit for tat policy to punish other countries for going against their interests. Though India has its losses, its continuous & unnerving strong posture has made China not take India lightly anymore.

Modi is also scheduled to attend the SCO summit in Shanghai in June. Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has already spoke of the need of the two sides to shed differences and manage their relationship in the spirit of compromise, and that the dragon and elephant could dance with each other, instead of fighting. He spoke of the importance of mutual trust that could help the two sides overcome their difficulties.

The Quad has really made the Chinese very insecure. So each side knows what the other is talking about: The Chinese want assurances that they are not being targeted by the Quad, and India needs some action on the part of China to indicate that Beijing has moved away from its policy of propping up Pakistan to offset India.

While Beijing was not expected to abandon its defense of Islamabad, India negotiated with China to withdraw its support for Pakistan at FATF by giving our support for the Vice President candidature. This is how negotiation & diplomacy works. China knows the increasing power & influence of India in the international forum.

Recent our posture against China has made Chinese go defensive against India. Even last year at the BRICS summit, if you noticed China declared a number of militant groups allegedly based in Pakistan as a regional security threat. Currently, Pakistan’s counter-terrorism policy is being guided by the country’s powerful military with the elected civilian government virtually a dummy. After FATF, you can see the Military officials running around the world from country to country to get support. The PM, FM & other diplomats are running to get loans before June/July. So we have already set the ball rolling

India will first weaken Pakistan to such an extent, that it will collapse on its own without a war unless it surrenders to India. Once that's done, then we can always put our energies on China along with all other parties. China will be petrified if Australia also joins the Malabar exercise & it will show it's frustration by building more hostility against India. So India is utilizing the Chinese fears smartly to negotiate many things in its interests, at the moment.

New Delhi can negotiate serious concessions with Beijing on the BRI, India could benefit from Chinese investment, especially in the area of infrastructure. India can negotiate China not to veto Masood Azhar at the UN. India will negotiate for the NSG membership status with China & many more.

The US or Japan can independently take on China but if Russia suddenly jumps in they will be in for a catastrophe & will have severe casualties & losses. India is the key for containment of China, because India can keep Russia out & also pull in Vietnam, in-case a war erupts. Most important China fears the Indian Naval power not the Air or land force so much. Australia is in the safest region at times of war, who wont bear any major infrastructure loss or casualties.

So have patience for another couple of years. India has more threats & problems at all its borders than Australia. Once Pakistan becomes defenseless & most of our objectives are realized, we will include Australia in the Malabar exercise. We have to take decisions & make moves according to the situation to our advantage. And don't forget Australia was included & you pulled out keeping Chinese interests & backlash a decade ago.

This is my understanding of the regional political situation

 

[Panzerfaust 3]

ah, good.good.[/QUOTE]

 

[Chhatrapati]

1, CCP has nothing to do with me. It's like the Ming Dynasty completely owned China.
2, no. This is a "routine action" and we are used to it.
3, Ah, Philippines is our weapon customer now. Malaysia has imported our warships. Thailand is our traditional weapon customer and ally. Vietnam and China are easing relations. So what do you do in SCS?
4, Macarthur and Brezhnev think so too.

You claim to be a Chinese living in China. So, CCP has everything to do with you.

2 and 3 are arguments without any matter. The point is SCS region is an international shipping route and have many EEZ of different countries coinciding with China's claim. So, once you tried to make things 'legal' you are going to be stopped. Even with the present naval capacity, you can't do much about it. Selling tanks or subs is another thing. Rulers change and so does the policies.

4. It's not about someone thinking. It's about your capability to attack and defend. And nobody is talking about a war, that scenario is not possible right now. But it's all about economic influence. Do the Chinese rely on the west for its economic development? Yes.

 

[randomradio]

Disgraceful that we aren't allowed to participate in the exercise.

We might be a small country but we are more professional than the Americans, India and the Japanese.

Pathetic.

You got this wrong.

India insists Australia participates in the exercise. It is Australia that wants to avoid the exercise and simply spectate from a distance.

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

India’s relations with China involve the four C’s – conflict, competition, cooperation and containment. The areas of conflict are well known – the border, and China’s relationship with Pakistan.

India cooperate on a range of areas with China; India was among the early supporters of the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank and is, of course, a partner of China in BRICS and of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

New Delhi believes that Beijing’s arms build up at our borders, frequent Chinese flexing muscles by intruding inside our territories to bully us, meddling with our neighbors & the policies in South Asia are aimed at preventing India from playing a larger extra-regional role, which China brushes it off as India's illusion. So we are giving the same feel for China. Now China thinks, India is trying to contain its rise in collaboration with the US, Japan, Vietnam & Australia. India meddling in SCS, building Naval base in Vietnam, boycotting the Belt road meet & Doklam stand off has been a shock of a development for China, that India was willing to take on China & even risk a gamble to give a message to China. China normally always have a tit for tat policy to punish other countries for going against their interests. Though India has its losses, its continuous & unnerving strong posture has made China not take India lightly anymore.

Modi is also scheduled to attend the SCO summit in Shanghai in June. Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has already spoke of the need of the two sides to shed differences and manage their relationship in the spirit of compromise, and that the dragon and elephant could dance with each other, instead of fighting. He spoke of the importance of mutual trust that could help the two sides overcome their difficulties.

The Quad has really made the Chinese very insecure. So each side knows what the other is talking about: The Chinese want assurances that they are not being targeted by the Quad, and India needs some action on the part of China to indicate that Beijing has moved away from its policy of propping up Pakistan to offset India.

While Beijing was not expected to abandon its defense of Islamabad, India negotiated with China to withdraw its support for Pakistan at FATF by giving our support for the Vice President candidature. This is how negotiation & diplomacy works. China knows the increasing power & influence of India in the international forum.

Recent our posture against China has made Chinese go defensive against India. Even last year at the BRICS summit, if you noticed China declared a number of militant groups allegedly based in Pakistan as a regional security threat. Currently, Pakistan’s counter-terrorism policy is being guided by the country’s powerful military with the elected civilian government virtually a dummy. After FATF, you can see the Military officials running around the world from country to country to get support. The PM, FM & other diplomats are running to get loans before June/July. So we have already set the ball rolling

India will first weaken Pakistan to such an extent, that it will collapse on its own without a war unless it surrenders to India. Once that's done, then we can always put our energies on China along with all other parties. China will be petrified if Australia also joins the Malabar exercise & it will show it's frustration by building more hostility against India. So India is utilizing the Chinese fears smartly to negotiate many things in its interests, at the moment.

New Delhi can negotiate serious concessions with Beijing on the BRI, India could benefit from Chinese investment, especially in the area of infrastructure. India can negotiate China not to veto Masood Azhar at the UN. India will negotiate for the NSG membership status with China & many more.

The US or Japan can independently take on China but if Russia suddenly jumps in they will be in for a catastrophe & will have severe casualties & losses. India is the key for containment of China, because India can keep Russia out & also pull in Vietnam, in-case a war erupts. Most important China fears the Indian Naval power not the Air or land force so much. Australia is in the safest region at times of war, who wont bear any major infrastructure loss or casualties.

So have patience for another couple of years. India has more threats & problems at all its borders than Australia. Once Pakistan becomes defenseless & most of our objectives are realized, we will include Australia in the Malabar exercise. We have to take decisions & make moves according to the situation to our advantage. And don't forget Australia was included & you pulled out keeping Chinese interests & backlash a decade ago.

This is my understanding of the regional political situation

If we join then NZ will follow and so will Indonesia and Malaysia, NZ and Australia maybe be small countries population wise but our troops are very professional.

We don't back down and we proved it in the recent confrontation in the South China Sea.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

If we join then NZ will follow and so will Indonesia and Malaysia, NZ and Australia maybe be small countries population wise but our troops are very professional.

We don't back down and we proved it in the recent confrontation in the South China Sea.

When did you create hallucinations? Do you think China is in conflict with Australia?

What do you use to conflict with China??

Coast Guard

You claim to be a Chinese living in China. So, CCP has everything to do with you.

2 and 3 are arguments without any matter. The point is SCS region is an international shipping route and have many EEZ of different countries coinciding with China's claim. So, once you tried to make things 'legal' you are going to be stopped. Even with the present naval capacity, you can't do much about it. Selling tanks or subs is another thing. Rulers change and so does the policies.

4. It's not about someone thinking. It's about your capability to attack and defend. And nobody is talking about a war, that scenario is not possible right now. But it's all about economic influence. Do the Chinese rely on the west for its economic development? Yes.

It still has nothing to do with me. Most of my news sources are UC browsers. considering that my home TV has not been opened for several years, I almost forget CCTV.

SCS is contradiction with each other. VN and the PH（they are close to the state of war）, VN and Malaysia, Malaysia and Indonesia, and even Taiwan and the PH, and Taiwan and VN.... the Chinese Navy has "overwhelming advantages", But you see our restraint. we still hope that negotiations will resolve this contradiction. But it seems that Americans do not want peace.

 

[#hydra#]

Disgraceful that we aren't allowed to participate in the exercise.

We might be a small country but we are more professional than the Americans, India and the Japanese.

Pathetic.

Great great great great grandsons of criminal Britishers.