India, US and Saudi Arabia: The 'new' great game!

[BLACKEAGLE]

And now Indians are fantasizing about KSA being a strategic ally of India at the expense of Pakistan interests!!! That will never happen. What's between India and KSA is just business and mutual interests, but what's between Pakistan and KSA is far deeper and more important than this.

 

[Bhairava]

We are just like Pakistan. We suffer from it and fight it the most yet people blame us for it.

Well you are not like Pakistan - you value your sovereignity and you fight against terrorism.

 

[karan.1970]

and this gives you the right to put 15 off topic posts and bring even OBL into this? You were so off topic only you have had posts deleted? Why are you constantly off topic and leading a troll brigade. I believe you are incapable of having a debate with as you veer off topic and start putting the childish smilies and bringing even casinos into a debate like this - Its fitting after looking at your signature that you then decide to behave in this manner - Come on karen you are worthy of better and i dont like you banned. You normally have a better input into a debate like this.

And how come my posts are off topic (which pertain to USA's influence in the region - which btw is the topic of the thread) where as your brother who is posting cr@p about poverty and other social issues in India is on topic. And about my posts getting deleted, well, that's really no barometer of being off topic or not and both of us know that.

About smilies, well, its always good to keep a discussion light and not get over burdened by anonymous discussion on the net. A smile goes a long way as they say

And about my signature, I still havent insulted or abused anyone (which is more than I can say for your brother) in this debate. If I have please point out and I will certainly apologize.

PS: The only off color remark I made was about Pakistani Dot Heads. And that was only because I saw that the term has an acceptable usage on this forum (with people like Abu using it). Like the use of term Bharti, Joos, Zionist etc etc..

 

[Paan Singh]

Well you are not like Pakistan - you value your sovereignity and you fight against terrorism.

Dont spare saudis plz,They have done blunders by funding terror inside paksitan which haunted us too.
Still doing so.

 

[karan.1970]

What because the view that India is a proxy is not agreeable with you?? Cos you have an over inflated idea of India's worth in the world? You seem to enjoy the fact that we are censored here and should not remind you that you have more starving than south Africa?? Which allows you to pretend you are a super power?

LOL.. And this is on topic

btw, censor applies both ways.. You know we cant call Pakistan a failed state here or use a term that we would want to use in response to the word Bharti.. But hey, its just a forum.. No Biggie...


Anyway, time for my flight.. Was fun having this conversation.. Be back in a week when I return from Australia.. Or later if I am banned in between

 

[jha]

And now Indians are fantasizing about KSA being a strategic ally of India at the expense of Pakistan interests!!! That will never happen. What's between India and KSA is just business and mutual interests, but what's between Pakistan and KSA is far deeper and more important than this.

Hmmm... If business like this keep happening , we dont give a damn to " far deeper and more important than this" relationship..

And yes.. Every Indian agrees that SA and pakistan have a relationship of different level. We are not interested in that relationship...

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

And now Indians are fantasizing about KSA being a strategic ally of India at the expense of Pakistan interests!!! That will never happen. What's between India and KSA is just business and mutual interests, but what's between Pakistan and KSA is far deeper and more important than this.

Every Indian poster knows the deep relationship between KSA and Pakistan.

But we are glad that SA handed over a wanted terrorits to India which can be tried in Indian courts and hanged till death as punishment. Thank you Saudis. and we wish the relationship between India and KSA expand.

 

[IND151]

I said just over a billion. its about 1.2 billion. Let me tell you how to check it go to google and put in cost of Iran Pakistan pipeline and after you have found several articles saying it is about 1.2 billion then do the same for tapi you will get numerous articles saying 7.2 billion. logical really tapi covers more distance now stop wasting my time and go educate yourself



another abusive ad hominem attack. just deal with it mate



simply incorrect India came out cos it is an American pressure and succumbed to American pressure. Go use google and check what your own analysts and diplomats admit

this pipe line (IPI) was supposed to pass through sindh and Baluchistan

we all know the unrest in Baluchistan

India must have feared that terrorists will attack this pipeline hence halting the supply of oil to India

India must also have considered the scenario in which pak blackmails India by threatening to stop the supply of oil (by destroying this pipeline in sindh and Baluchistan and then puting blame on terrorists) in order to make sure India does the thing Pak wants i.e arm twisting

we were not promised guarantee of security of this pipeline by Iran too

and hence we withdrew from project

and for american pressure, they asked us to have greater involvement in Afghanistan, we said NO

 

[rockstarIN]

And now Indians are fantasizing about KSA being a strategic ally of India at the expense of Pakistan interests!!! That will never happen. What's between India and KSA is just business and mutual interests, but what's between Pakistan and KSA is far deeper and more important than this.

India never an ally of any country....leave alone KSA. Not with Soviet Union in cold war times.

We keep our foreign policy in that manner. Its our interests...nothing else.

There is nothing like 'deeper than ocean, higher than...bla bla bla'

 

[lem34]

this pipe line (IPI) was supposed to pass through sindh and Baluchistan

we all know the unrest in Baluchistan

India must have feared that terrorists will attack this pipeline hence halting the supply of oil to India

India must also have considered the scenario in which pak blackmails India by threatening to stop the supply of oil (by destroying this pipeline in sindh and Baluchistan and then puting blame on terrorists) in order to make sure India does the thing Pak wants i.e arm twisting

we were not promised guarantee of security of this pipeline by Iran too

and hence we withdrew from project

and for american pressure, they asked us to have greater involvement in Afghanistan, we said NO

So why sign up for Tapi. which also goes through Pakistan

 

[r3alist]

And now Indians are fantasizing about KSA being a strategic ally of India at the expense of Pakistan interests!!! That will never happen. What's between India and KSA is just business and mutual interests, but what's between Pakistan and KSA is far deeper and more important than this.

Saudis do as the Americans and Israelis say, this opening up to India makes perfect sense from that view, it's time to stop thinking Saudi as s friend with a mutual vision/interest.

 

[KRAIT]

Saudis do as the Americans and Israelis say, this opening up to India makes perfect sense from that view, it's time to stop thinking Saudi as s friend with a mutual vision/interest.

Saudis just want to lure India away from Iran...to hurt their economy and to take away regional player which might stand neutral or in favour of Iran.

 

[lem34]

Saudis just want to lure India away from Iran...to hurt their economy and to take away regional player which might stand neutral or in favour of Iran.

I would say Saudis and America want to lure India away

Saudis do as the Americans and Israelis say, this opening up to India makes perfect sense from that view, it's time to stop thinking Saudi as s friend with a mutual vision/interest.

This game has been going on since about 2006. That was also the time that Saudi's military doctrine also changed somewhat

 

[KRAIT]

I would say Saudis and America want to lure India away



This game has been going on since about 2006

Yup but gain momentum in last couple of years. Growing strength of SCO, and India's willingness to join it, is major concern for US and Saudis. If you look at the map, you will see alliance of countries boundaries just like NATO, except US.

 

[ashokdeiva]

And now Indians are fantasizing about KSA being a strategic ally of India at the expense of Pakistan interests!!! That will never happen. What's between India and KSA is just business and mutual interests, but what's between Pakistan and KSA is far deeper and more important than this.

and what is that? a sense of muslim brotherhood? or a sense of umah?
please explain in eloborate.

and do understand that we are not coloborating with any one to conspire against PAKISTAN, we have a billion ++ people to take care off and we have no intension of using other country against PAKISTAN or any other country.
we help Afganistan because we believe a stable Afgan is in the best interest of the world and that of Humanity. we do not plan to use them against PAKISTAN. what happens between PAKISTAN and Afganistan after a stable state of Afgan is established is a matter of external affiers to the two nation.
As far as KSA is considered, we need them for fueling the growth of our nation with oil and hence a good trading partner and as far as international terrorists are considered, KSA does what it belives is good for them, including the deportation of Abu Jindal alais Ansari