India Tops World's Racism Charts

[Cyberian]

Hindus were and still are the most racist people on earth. This is the reason why our forefathers built for us the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

 

[Vinod2070]

India is where barbaric caste system and some of the most evil practices like sacrificing started...
India has always been the center of the world in this regard

Wonder why victims of Islamic persecution came here all the way from Yemen and refuse to go back to their hell hole.

Even now, the Shia victims are running to kaffir countries in overloaded boats, not to any final and perfect country!

Now, just because they are wajib ul qatl, should they do reverse hijarat?

 

[Pakistanisage]

While one agrees with the last statement, the rest of the world has exactly opposite opinions on where Muslims and Islam stand on these issues.

As one Pakistani writer correctly identified:

Muslims are an extremely intolerant group and yet extremely sensitive when it comes to their own religious sensitivities.

Terrorism, Shameless Religious Bigotry and Pakistani Mindset | Pak Tea House

One would have simply ignored you here if you had not tried to make your ill informed remarks about India and our great Dharmic religion with which you have nothing to do.If one gets back with some obvious facts, you people go berserk all over the world.

The "peaceful rallies" in London will not make people respect your prophet or Islam. It is when you stop calling other names and passing fatawas on others.

Yiu just have to look at the ISlamic history which is full of massive rapine, slavery, genocide and destruction of others' religious places, your own "heroes" and their acts to know why the rest of the world has such a negative opinion of Islam and Muslims.

Not to mention the hatred, discrimination and violence against non Muslims that is so much a part of the religion.

Let me not get into specifics for now. If you want to take it further, be my guest.

It will be no holds barred then. And I will come back with nothing but facts.

PS: Even your Avatar can make you "wajib ul qatl" for being an idolator and munafiq.

Let's explore your " Dharmic Religion " since you brought it up yourself.

Your so-called DHARMIC RELIGION, promotes CASTE SYSTEM, a system that denigrates human dignity and elevates one Caste over others. Our religion Islam on the other hand promotes equality amongst all races.

This is the primary reason why we are not RACIST People like you.

 

[Vinod2070]

Let's explore your " Dharmic Religion " since you brought it up yourself.

Sure. But we will not limit it my " Dharmic Religion " as I said.

Your "final and perfect" religion and its prophet will be fair game too.

Your so-called DHARMIC RELIGION, promotes CASTE SYSTEM, a system that denigrates human dignity and elevates one Caste over others. Our religion Islam on the other hand promotes equality amongst all races.

OK. Yes, I agree caste discrimination is bad. The idea of caste itself probably was no different from industrial guilds that were the norm in most part of the world.

People all over the world were continuing in the professions of their fathers for the most part. Breaking this norm was extremely tough anywhere in the world.

Obviously the practices like untouchability etc. are abhorrent. There have been many movements in Indian history to get rid of such practices. Many of these issues are more social in nature than necessarily religious.

The advent of Buddhism (and other reformist movements) was an example where people questioned the meaningless rituals and discrimination and power of specific groups.

And any discrimination in India on any grounds is constitutionally barred. There is positive discrimination in place and most of the new generation doesn't believe in caste discrimination.

Most of us in cities don't know or care about each others' caste or religion.

Anyway, for us, looking at just caste in the context of the Dharmic religions is a very narrow way of looking at it.

There is the great emphasis on knowledge, compassion, righteousness and carrying out your duty among others.

This is the primary reason why we are not RACIST People like you.

As I said, we look at Islam as inherently promoting bigotry and racism. Let me give you some starting points.

We can probe deeper if you want to.

Let's divide it into two part.

Muslim treatment of non Muslims.

Muslim treatment of other Muslims.

Let's take Muslim treatment of non Muslims first.

It is without doubt a story of bigotry, depravity, loot, violence, rapine, genocide, slavery on a massive scale.

You all were the victims of it first and then after conversion perpetrated it on others.

Like e.g. Rinkie Kumari's (and thousands like her now and hundreds of millions in the past) kids may do.

This is how it typically looked like:

When a Muslim army invaded a town, they would not allow anyone to convert to Islam for three days. During these three days they could kill as many men as they liked, pillage their properties, then rape and enslave their women and children. Only after a town had been decimated and all the young women and children that could be sold as slaves were captured would the brutal campaign of Islamization, with its brutal mandate that all must convert or die, began. However the Jews and the Christians were given protection to live provided they pay a penalty tax called Jizyah and enter into dhimmitude. Dhimmi means protected. But the dhimmis had to pay a hefty jizyah for their protection. This Jizyah was the source of livelihood of the Muslims who through it were able to live like parasites off the labor of the dhimmis. The following Hadith, reported by Bukhari, records the source for this practice based on the admonitions of Muhammad toward the dhimmi:

Narrated Juwairiya bin Qudama At-Tamimi:
We said to 'Umar bin Al-Khattab, oh Chief of the believers! Advise us." He said, "I advise you to fulfill Allah's Convention (made with the Dhimmis) as it is the convention of your Prophet and the source of the livelihood of your dependents (i.e. the taxes from the Dhimmis.) " Volume 4, Book 53, Number 388:

Some of the Islamic gifts to India. The story is far worse in the countries which got fully converted. They have lost their all, their culture, their civilization, their religion. Everything worth living for.

Just to become second class Arabs.

Mahmud Gazhani destroying Somanath and countless other temples, being the "But-Shikan par excellence", murderer of at least 2 million people in what is now called Pakistan and Northern India is revered as an Islamic hero. What would you think if there was a "Mosque-slayer par excellence" in other religions and he was revered the same way. And they still claimed to be "peaceful and tolerant".

Alauddin Khilazi destroying a Rajput kingdom because he wanted to rape the queen, resulting in the Jauhar (self immolation) of thousands of women in the palace. There were countless other such Jauhar by the brave Rajput women to protect their honor against invading Muslims. You won't find a single reference to that before the Muslim invasions of India, no one had been that barbaric! For these barbarians, the loot, rape and plunder was always part of warfare. In fact the very reason they went to war.

Abdali desecrating the Golden temple by cutting cows in the temple.

Timur Lame's genocide, making mountains of skulls.

Nadir Shah's genocide.


The forced conversion in Kashmir and elsewhere and the barbaric murder of Sikh Gurus for opposing them. Remember the barbaric way Guru Teg Bahadur was killed in Delhi's Chandani Chowk.

Even Akbar had 15000 civilian Rajputs murdered after a conquest.

Then, the utter depravity of the Muslims in carrying out massive rapine, slavery and genocide everywhere.

Here is one example:

This photo in particular is of interest in that the Arab ship carrying the African slaves was intercepted by the British Navy, these salves were soon set free by the British.

This post should tell you of the gifts of Islam to the world.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/europe...onalism-rise-europe-russia-4.html#post3516901

The Islamic slavery was far worse than even European slavery. The slaves were universally castrated, only 1 in 10 survived and they could never reproduce so there is no trace left of them.

This is what your "final and perfect" and "peaceful and tolerant" religion delivered to the world that you are so proud of?

380 million people were estimated to have been killed directly by the Muslim Jihadists, every perpetrating the same cycle of rapine, slavery, genocide and forced conversions.

The local culture and languages were completely wiped out from many places. They became "Arabized".

E.g. within a few generation of the brutal Islamic invasions, see what happened to some great civilizations.

There is no question whatsoever that the Arabs did indeed destroy much of the heritage of Classical civilization, including many - or even the great majority - of the works of the ancient authors. This is proved beyond doubt by the rapid severing of links with the past which followed the Muslim conquest. Within a very short time indeed no one in Egypt had any idea of the name of the pharaoh who built the Great Pyramid - though this knowledge had earlier been readily available in the works of Greek writers such as Herodotus and Diodorus, as well as native Egyptian writers working in Greek, such as Manetho. And the same severing of links with the past is found throughout the Muslim world. By the eleventh century the Persian poet and mathematician Omar Khayyam could not name the builders of the great palaces at Persepolis and Susa. These structures, he imagined, had been raised by a genie-king named Jamshid.

Even today, an Iranian rule has to be a black turban wearing one (meaning of Arab descent from a Syed background, so much for racial equality).

As I told you, the rest of the world has 180 degrees opposite ideas from yours' about Islam and Muslims.

Just think why almost all major Muslim countries have negligible minorities left, if any. This includes your own. Why were the local religions so completely wiped out? Because they were all so eager to convert?

Let's take a look at the life of a dhimmi in a Muslim society. Again, I am avoding specific example for now.

Now let's take the Muslim treatment of other Muslims.

Let me not spend much time on this for now. The sectarian warfare, genocide and destruction of their worship places is an inherent part of a supremacist religion like Islam.

We can see it persecution of sects like Shia and Ahmedi in much of the Muslim world and of Sunnis in some other places.

The religion wants people to not exercise their brain cells but behave like zombies and blindly believe everything that one person claimed.

And if you reject those fantastic claims (backed by nothing more than some supposed "revelations" which only he could see and which conveniently anointed him as the "seal of the prophet" and the "best of creation" and even came to help him with some much more mundane stuff which I will avoid getting into for now).

If you choose to ignore those fantastic claims, you are supposed to burn in eternal hellfire! And the followers are there to speed your journey to that hellfire.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Oh boy... we are still discussing this fake thread initiated by a chronic liar.

 

[Arya Desa]

Hindus were and still are the most racist people on earth. This is the reason why our forefathers built for us the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

That's why they have the word kaffir in their lexicon and start their prayers off by saying "Their is no god but allah".

 

[Shinigami]

Oh boy... we are still discussing this fake thread initiated by a chronic liar.

riaz haq is fascinating. even 50 year old pakistanis are obsessed with india

 

[Ki[[er1]

Muslim also has Caste system like Hindu. Like Syed, Khan and Ansari etc.
People who are saying Hindu are most racist person. look inside you. We do not hate Muslim but you guys hate Hindu. forget about hatred toward Hindu you hate other sec of Muslim, we do not hate based on skin color and height but you people do.

PS: I do not have faith on Moderator or Admin. They see nationality of person. if Indian says something which they do not like then they will block them but Pakistani are free to do. I wonder the way people abuse Hindu here if We will do same for Islam we will be ban for ever.

 

[Cherokee]

Yes , Indeed , India is a Racist country . From caste to ethnicity to religions to regions . All come into play .

 

[nastikan]

Yes , Indeed , India is a Racist country . From caste to ethnicity to religions to regions . All come into play .

India is indeed extremely racist, but IMO not more than Pakistan or Arab countries.

 

[IBRIS]

Hindus were and still are the most racist people on earth. This is the reason why our forefathers built for us the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Yes yes, so the Muslims are the most innocent people who are not immune to racism. Ahmadi's, Bangali's will just write books of their history in the state of Pakistan in coming decades. Also Middle East and Saudis will let you know thing or two what they think of Pakistani Muslims in general. Talk about looking in a mirror before pointing fingers on others. Jinnah must be turning upside down in his grave knowing his IRP had turned out to be. He wasn't an honest man himself so he'd probably don't give a Sh!t anyway.

P.S im not a Hindu, but we did lived among them for centuries.

 

[Bobshouse]

Problem with India is the caste system. India is a country where your rights and potential in life is based on who your parents are. India being seen as a racist country is just a reflection and extension to the caste system. Its pretty simple and inevitable India would be a racist country.

 

[eddieInUK]

Castle system is basically a sort of Racism, good news are it is being removed.

 

[Langda Tyaagi]

Problem with India is the caste system. India is a country where your rights and potential in life is based on who your parents are. India being seen as a racist country is just a reflection and extension to the caste system. Its pretty simple and inevitable India would be a racist country.

Castism and racism are two different things. The people of two different casts belong to the same race.

 

[RiazHaq]

Castism and racism are two different things. The people of two different casts belong to the same race.

The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) now includes discrimination based on caste. Dating back to 1969, the ICERD convention has been ratified by 173 countries, including India. Despite this, and despite the United Nations Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights reiterating that discrimination based on work and descent is a form of racial discrimination, the Indian government's stand on this issue has remained the same: caste is not race.

Haq's Musings: Dalit Victims of Apartheid in India

British parliament's decision to recognize the existence of caste alongside race as a form of discrimination could hurt India's long-held argument that the two sources of bias could not be equated.

Worse, it may give a strong push to portray caste as a global phenomenon like race, undercutting India's claim that caste prejudice was indigenous to Indian society and it could not be a subject of policy at international fora like the United Nations.

As the law in the UK became a reality earlier this week, experts said it would trigger lobbying for similar legal protection in the United States, Canada, South Africa and Australia - countries that are more sensitive to human rights issues and have a strong presence of Indian diaspora, but have little awareness of caste.

The presence of Hindu/Indian diaspora and a good chunk of dalits is the pre-requisite for such laws to come into effect. Officials and the civil society said a reluctant House of Commons could be persuaded because of the presence of around four lakh SCs in the UK.

While the development has led to glee among civil rights groups, the government is worried. Senior government sources said the UK law would pile pressure on India aided by noises from international bodies and greater scrutiny.

A laxity by Indian states in dealing with caste issues, as are routinely reported, could find mention in reports of Western countries and institutions. In the long-term, it could render India vulnerable as child labour and gender bias did earlier.

India has till now rebuffed pressure by arguing that caste was an Indian problem that stood proscribed by law with legal mechanisms to address it, including the affirmative action to help dalits. The official Indian stance on caste was unveiled at the 2000 Durban conference on racism.

Vivek Kumar, a sociologist with the Jawaharlal Nehru University, said, "The studies on diaspora will have to acknowledge that caste exists outside India. The new law in the UK has strengthened claims of academics that caste is not a local problem, but is part of diaspora."

According to Anand Kumar Bolimera, country director of Christian Aid, "India should take the leadership position to deal with caste globally. India need not be defensive about it. Indian constitution barred caste discrimination half a century ago and it has the best laws to deal with the issue."

Globalization has been sending Indians across the world, but in future, experts say, their movement would be seen as not just of biological entities but also of a cultural baggage that includes decadent practices.

Casteism equal to racism? UK law holds key - Times Of India