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[dadeechi]

Pakistan jumped into full alliance with China and in the process lost the support of US, NATO, EU, GCC & Iran.

Only time would tell if this decision of giving Gwadar military base to China turns out to be a masterstroke or a blunder.

At least, Pakistan currently seems to think this is a masterstroke and an antidote for all its ills.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistan jumped into full alliance with China and in the process lost the support of US, NATO, EU, GCC & Iran.

Only time would tell if this decision of giving Gwadar military base to China turns out to be a masterstroke or a blunder.

At least, Pakistan currently seems to think this is a masterstroke and an antidote for all its ills.

How have we lost GCC or even Iran?

Fuk NATO & EU.. They were never our friends to begin with.

 

[dadeechi]

How have we lost GCC or even Iran?

Fuk NATO & EU.. They were never our friends to begin with.

If there is one country that would most adversely be impacted due to Gwadar, it has to be Iran. And Iran does not play second fiddle. They are and would like to be the major power controlling the Persian gulf.

Once US leaves Pakistan, GCC would follow suit. Why do you think India all of a sudden is upgrading its relationships with GCC.

 

[Zahoor Raja-Jani]

Congrates to India

and RIP to the quality and safety of Arab forces
@Khafee @Indus Falcon

 

[Alpha Fighter]

What defence pact ??? Hope you are not high. Pakistani parliment already refused gulf nation of any support in their personal wars. Would you please enlighten us ignorant pakistanis n these pacts or just pulled one out of your arse to show your Indian superiority



Mate provide some sorts of reference or link rather than pulling facts out of your arse.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24823846
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...58338/The-Saudis-are-ready-to-go-nuclear.html
http://www.news18.com/blogs/world/l...rmy-leading-it-to-oblivion-14405-1189090.html

Pakistan placed an infantry brigade at the disposal of the royal family for its own protection.
A protocol was signed between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia on 14 December 1982

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Defence ties with UAE are going up.

http://m.economictimes.com/news/def...re-defence-equipment/articleshow/49136696.cms

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/9TBDxCg9BwfAWiqRVQFaaJ/Doha-Bank-ties-up-with-Reliance-Group.html

Reliance is planning on making frigates, destroyers, armored vehicles, etc with UAE partners.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If there is one country that would most adversely be impacted due to Gwadar, it has to be Iran. And Iran does not play second fiddle. They are and would like to be the major power controlling the Persian gulf.

Iran itself is providing electricity to Gwadar belt.. It's offering to build a refinery in Gwadar.. It's also interested in becoming part of CPEC!

Pipeline work has started ...

As for Chahbahar that port is being built for irans domestic purposes unlike CPEC ...

Also looking at the geopolitical situation of the world today .. Which country in the region is having awesome ties with Iran ? Not sure if ships from
the west or Middle East will use Chahbahar ? When Gwadar is much nearer,has more capacity (is one of the world war deepest sea ports) ?
Any ways .. Pak - Iran ties are stable and pretty much "friendly" with Pak & Iran militaries conducting joint exercises.. Pak remaining neutral on major issues like Yemen,Syria etc and improving our trade ties with Iran.

Once US leaves Pakistan, GCC would follow suit. Why do you think India all of a sudden is upgrading its relationships with GCC.

What will GCC do? Have you forgotten the recent Saudi snub on Kashmir issue? Just days after modis visit?
You tend to forget that Pakistan is and will remain a major player in the Muslim world .. Due to its geopolitical location,its status as being the sole Islamic nuclear state ... GCCs military institutions are built by Pak Mil.. Pak has military presence in al GCC states.. It's people are "serving" in GCC armies on deputation or former troops .. Pasha is the UAEs Intel chief.. Gen Raheel is being offered to command the new Coalition and much more.. It's not that easy .. Afghanistan isn't even on the menu when we talk about GCC..

Even Iran is negotiating with the Taliban..

 

[dadeechi]

Iran itself is providing electricity to Gwadar belt.. It's offering to build a refinery in Gwadar.. It's also interested in becoming part of CPEC!

Pipeline work has started ...

As for Chahbahar that port is being built for irans domestic purposes unlike CPEC ...

Also looking at the geopolitical situation of the world today .. Which country in the region is having awesome ties with Iran ? Not sure if ships from
the west or Middle East will use Chahbahar ? When Gwadar is much nearer,has more capacity (is one of the world war deepest sea ports) ?
Any ways .. Pak - Iran ties are stable and pretty much "friendly" with Pak & Iran militaries conducting joint exercises.. Pak remaining neutral on major issues like Yemen,Syria etc and improving our trade ties with Iran.

True. The purposes of Gwadar and Chabahar ports are different.

Gwadar primarily provides China a route to reach Arabian sea while Chabahar provides countries in Indian Subcontinent & ASEAN a route to Central Asia, Russia and EU.

There is no conflict in these economical goals.

The issue would arise when Chinese Subs and warships in Gwadar start patrolling the waters traditionally controlled by Iran.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

True. The purposes of Gwadar and Chabahar ports are different.

True !

Gwadar primarily provides China a route to reach Arabian sea while Chabahar provides countries in Indian Subcontinent & ASEAN a route to Central Asia, Russia and EU.

None sense !



There is no conflict in these economical goals.


CPEC connects Pak,China & Central Asia ! Countries like Tajikistan are already using the port for imports!

http://www.dawn.com/news/1152578

http://www.thenews.com.pk/print/170...-cooperation-growing-in-all-fields-says-envoy

http://tribune.com.pk/story/967191/ties-with-central-asia-poised-to-gain-wider-influence/

http://www.awaazdaily.com/?p=6346

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...-completion-of-pakistan-tajikistan-road-link/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/996406/pakistan-could-turn-into-a-transit-trade-hub/

Gwadar port offers Central Asia the shortest route to the sea!


Roads are being completed .. Transit routes finalised & constructed;

http://www.dawn.com/news/1233450


http://www.dawn.com/news/1188554

http://www.chitralnews.com/LN183.htm

Pakistan is also constructing motorways from Peshawar to Jalalabad,Afghanistan!


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Meanwhile Chahbahar is being constructed for mainly for Iran and not "ASEAN" or India... In fact the Iranians are offering the Chinese to consistency Chahbahar ;

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/04/27/462797/China-CMI-Iran-mega-port/


http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/10/08/432508/Iran-wants-China-in-Chabahar-development


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Also majority of central Asian states don't have cordial ties with Iran..

Any ways .. Even Iran is showing interest in CPEC;


http://tribune.com.pk/story/949098/regional-connectivity-iran-agrees-to-consider-being-part-of-cpec/


Iran offers to construct refinery;
http://www.thenews.com.pk/magazine/money-matters/95114-Barrel-a-day

The issue would arise when Chinese Subs and warships in Gwadar start patrolling the waters traditionally controlled by Iran.

Pak & Iran most recent naval ex;

https://defence.pk/threads/iran-pakistan-set-to-hold-joint-naval-drill-today.427501/


China again is Irans largest trade partner .. Why would China mess with Iran on any issue?

 

[Pandora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24823846
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...58338/The-Saudis-are-ready-to-go-nuclear.html
http://www.news18.com/blogs/world/l...rmy-leading-it-to-oblivion-14405-1189090.html

Pakistan placed an infantry brigade at the disposal of the royal family for its own protection.
A protocol was signed between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia on 14 December 1982

Load of conspiracy theories i actually feel sorry for you. Contrary to popular belief pakistan only has trainers in saudi Arabia. Our comitment to saudi arabia is that of only if holly cities of makkah and madina are in danger. That comitment is that of any muslims and has nothing to do with saudis. There are lots if saudi member here so please educate your self a little

 

[dadeechi]

CPEC connects Pak,China & Central Asia ! Countries like Tajikistan are already using the port for imports!

So you mean to say Pakistan & China are constructing $45 billion CPEC for Tajikistan which imports $200 million and exports $100 per year.

The top imports of Tajikistan are from Russia, Kazakhstan, the European Union, China and Ukraine.

The top exports of Tajikistan are to China, Turkey, Russia, Iran and Afghanistan

Why would Tajikistan need CPEC to reach any of these countries for imports or exports.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So you mean to say Pakistan & China are constructing $45 billion CPEC for Tajikistan which imports $200 million and exports $100 per year.

The top imports of Tajikistan are from Russia, Kazakhstan, the European Union, China and Ukraine.

The top exports of Tajikistan are to China, Turkey, Russia, Iran and Afghanistan

Why would Tajikistan need CPEC to reach any of these countries for imports or exports.

No we are building CPEC to connect to Central Asia .. Despite central Asian states trading with Russia or China .. Do you think they don't have potential to trade with the rest of the world through Pakistan? Do you think 46+ billion $ is just to construct a port (which possibly wouldn't cost more than 1 or 2 billion) or roads (which already exist till China)?

Think about it... Why are many of those countries already using Gwadar port for trade even when it's not even fully operational ?

 

[dadeechi]

No we are building CPEC to connect to Central Asia .. Despite central Asian states trading with Russia or China .. Do you think they don't have potential to trade with the rest of the world through Pakistan? Do you think 46+ billion $ is just to construct a port (which possibly wouldn't cost more than 1 or 2 billion) or roads (which already exist till China)?

Think about it... Why are many of those countries already using Gwadar port for trade even when it's not even fully operational ?

I have never said CPEC is waste of money. Go back and re-read what I said in my earlier post.

The ROI for CPEC & Gwadar are tied to trade by China with Africa and Middle East where as Chabahar would be used by India to reach Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan & other Central Asia and CIS states.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I have never said CPEC is waste of money. Go back and re-read what I said in my earlier post.

The ROI for CPEC & Gwadar are tied to trade by China with Africa and Middle East where as Chabahar would be used by India to reach Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan & other Central Asia and CIS states.

Meanwhile Gwadar will open trade upto Central Asia.

 

[dadeechi]

Meanwhile Gwadar will open trade upto Central Asia.

Please list the countries that would trade with Central Asia through the routes of Pakistan.