India spent Rs 420,000 to deport one Bangladeshi from Assam

[Skeptic]

Well it's not hard to get a fake ID. But how the bar-code of a fake ID can match with govt database?

No we have election ID cards, which can obtained illegally and without much difficulty, and still a lot of people do not have a ID card so they get registered for new card.

So it must be next to impossible for the alleged Indian illegal immigrant to find any place in Bangladesh, Since you have an Aspired by FBI and cutting edge biometric card protected by bar codes. This should settle the debate about who is immigrating to where illegally.

 

[amoverlord]

Well it's not hard to get a fake ID. But how the bar-code of a fake ID can match with govt database?

actualy i'm not sure about id card...but name in voters list,ration card etc. exist

 

[TopCat]

Haven't laughed this hard in a long long time. It almost hurts.

I understand that you can't help talking through your behind because it comes just as naturally as taking your morning dump, but this time around you have outdone eastwatch. In one clean sweep you have just trashed Tagore who is considered to be the father of 'kolkataiya bangla'. This particular brand of 'chalti bhasha' (colloquial language) was his gift. Even 'kolkataiya bangla' is not homogeneous and it differs from North Kolkata to South Kolkata.

If anything we Kolkatans are probably the proudest Bengali sect (if speaking this particular dialect qualifies one to be a sect), so much so that our pride borderlines on snobbery. Expecting a Bangladeshi to understand the nuances of 'kolkataiya bangla' is like expecting a hippo to fly.

As with your diktat, that Kolkatans are not 'pure Bengalis', well you just proved that you can't get any more daft. Btw, while we are at it, what is the definition of 'pure Bengali'?

Save your laugh for the day. I wasnt talking about purity of Kolkatan Bengali dialect but purity of Bengali pride as a whole. You missed that.

What is the definition of Pure Bengali??? None...
Bengali evolved a lot since the time of Tagore. You Kolkatans just did not felt it yet.....

 

[ramu]

You are misinformed.
Unemployment rate in BD is lowest in south asia and one of the lowest in the world.
100 days of guaranteed employment program is in place in Bangladesh as well.
We dont provide ration here but 80% of our development budget goes to rural development to create employment. Its hard to find any roads in the villages which were not paved. Health, education is free here, community clinic for every 6000 people.

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Why Indians are leaving their own country filled with Milk and Honey?

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You can find few Indians here and there in BD as well, that does not make us next to USA.

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Cool.. but we got it done while you are still pondering. Every proud citizen always carry their National ID card.
Ohh by the way, the BD company made the biometric fingerprint algorithm for this project got the highest precission and FBI and many law enforciing agencies around the world already bought the right to use that in their own finger print identification system.

We could help you out on that too.

I felt free....

About the unemployment rate being lowest in BD, please provide links to your claim.

1. The population density of BD is highest in south Asia and if you claim of the employment rate being so high, then why is the official revenue generation figure so low ? Is it because the people who cant find employment manage some form of employment that can be called as under employment.

2. 80% of your development budget. Thank you. How much is the fraction of your budget that is fixed for development in 2008 - 2009. How much of it was spent on rural development. What is the total figure in your currency please ? I have the total budget allocation but I don't know what you mean by development budget. I may be wrong and I want you to tell me what is its value.

3. Education is free and roads paved etc is good but not relevant to unemployment/livelihood but none the less congratulate you on that.

4. The question on why Indians are leaving, I would say for the exact reason why your country men are leaving BD. For want of a better life as a man always desires something better than what he already has. I am not saying India is milk and honey but I am sure it offers a good scope of employment for the labour / working class.

5. Indians in BD. Thanks for pointing that out. Indians have found employment in every country and thanks to many of them that India gets a significant inflow of remittance. However, the Indians in BD are not large enough to pressurise the social and economic patterns of the area.

6. Your national id card. That is great to know. After your post, I have gone through TigerIT Bangladesh Limited: Home and found that they have brought in a good system.
Please try and understand that the scale India is attempting is unprecedented and the biometric information stored will be much more sophisticated and tamper resistant than just finger prints. It will have multiple redundant biometrics and this will be used not only as a identification card but as a mechanism to improve the public delivery system.Of course you are aware of the population differnce and geographical challenges in India. Thanks for offering help and I am sure the UID guys will come to you if they find merits in your system.

7. India is spending crores in fencing the border between the two countries for no other reason but to discourage / make it difficult for illegal immigration through the porous borders.

Hope I have presented my case rationally and you will reason with me.

 

[TopCat]

No we have election ID cards, which can obtained illegally and without much difficulty, and still a lot of people do not have a ID card so they get registered for new card.

So it must be next to impossible for the alleged Indian illegal immigrant to find any place in Bangladesh, Since you have an Aspired by FBI and cutting edge biometric card protected by bar codes. This should settle the debate about who is immigrating to where illegally.

Yap thats true. But our high court and a law passed by Parliament which made all the institution, not to make it mandatory to any citizen of Bangladesh to carry ID cards or to have ID cards. So you can still claim yourself as a BD citizen without a ID card. Anti discrimination law...

 

[amoverlord]

@
alzakir



Obviously these benifit would only apply to citizen of Bharat than why are you providing them to alleged illegal imigrant? It doen't add up.


exactly ....what i say......just let them rot n die in hunger......
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Every sweepers, clovers and tea garden workers in BD are bharati origin non musllim.

similar in assam.......majority of labors r bagladeshis.....they do most of the dirty work.....actually sometimes i like it that they r here to help us out in this shitty jobs that too for less money.........

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So if we are really in hell shape than should we have fill these jobs with our own citizen instead of recruiting them from under develop eastern bharati states.

well..i'm from these under developed eastern states....would wonder why bagladeshis crawl up here like maggots to do all this shitty work when they can find better jobs at there homeland......
btw what does ur non muslim boss does to u everyday in USA(somebody is always implying that USA is bad but i live here n eat what they throw at me)???????
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Nonetheless if you have illegal imigrant from BD than you are welcome to sent them back with proper documents because we ain't going to take your word for it.

theres the problem....cause they eat there id cards after crossing the border......


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others don't bother...thie post is meant for alzakir

 

[toxic_pus]

Save your laugh for the day. I wasnt talking about purity of Kolkatan Bengali dialect but purity of Bengali pride as a whole. You missed that.

What is the definition of Pure Bengali??? None...
Bengali evolved a lot since the time of Tagore. You Kolkatans just did not felt it yet.....

Ducking already? If you can't tell what is the definition of 'pure Bengali' or quantify 'purity of Bengali pride a whole' how is it that you get to decide who is more or less 'pure' as a Bengali. O I see, you are just being your usual self. My bad.

As with evolution of Bengali after Tagore. Well sure there has been some. But evolution doesn't necessarily mean good and we Kolkatans have an impeccable taste. Naturally we reject trash.

 

[Skeptic]

How high and do you have any data to compare the employment rate in around 2010.

Yeah, We all know how the unemployment rate of 40% in 2007 came down to 2.5% in 2007. And do you really want a lecture on Underemployment, Real wage Index and Underemployment.

Obviously these benifit would only apply to citizen of Bharat than why are you providing them to alleged illegal imigrant? It doen't add up.

Because the Illegal immigrants are not putting up their hands to say - Kick us out. As explained earlier - It is not difficult to obtain an illegal ID proof in India unlike Bangladesh. So they hide easily.

Every sweepers, clovers and tea garden workers in BD are bharati origin non musllim.

So if we are really in hell shape than should we have fill these jobs with our own citizen instead of recruiting them from under develop eastern bharati states.

Must be really hard for you to keep tab of the religion of each and every Bharati Origin sweeper sitting in US. Also Why dont you kick out every illegal immigrant who can not get hold of the hi-tech card.

Nonetheless if you have illegal imigrant from BD than you are welcome to sent them back with proper documents because we ain't going to take your word for it.

We are trying for it, and once we are able to match BD in ID card dept, we'll not ask for your permission.

 

[amoverlord]

@
iajdani


u didn't reply me......u wanted to say tht 50% of assam speaks bengali...................prove it......or don't post such comments

 

[thebrownguy]

I know of many Bangladeshi families who stay near my gardner's place in my hometown in Maharashtra. lol yeah the Western state of India.Can you imagine the extent to which they have spread themselves?!!!
I used to sympathize with them, earlier, cause i have heard they do all sorts of odd job to support themselves.
But now after hearing all your rant, i have changed my mind.
Hey , you know what my BD friends be ready to welcome home atleast 20- 30 of your friends home, from my side.

 

[Al-zakir]

Yeah, We all know how the unemployment rate of 40% in 2007 came down to 2.5% in 2007. And do you really want a lecture on Underemployment, Real wage Index and Underemployment.

Well I was looking for a real number between two nations.

Because the Illegal immigrants are not putting up their hands to say - Kick us out. As explained earlier - It is not difficult to obtain an illegal ID proof in India unlike Bangladesh. So they hide easily.

Not our problem at all. If they can obtain ID card and vote in electoral system than they are bharati citizen one way or other.

Must be really hard for you to keep tab of the religion of each and every Bharati Origin sweeper sitting in US. .

That is because no muslim would do these jobs. These jobs are designated for these people. I know they are none muslim however I do not know what religion they follow. I invite you to have research on this matter. Perhaps you take a visit to dhaka for further Investigation.

Also Why dont you kick out every illegal immigrant who can not get hold of the hi-tech card

Well actually we do not want to because we need them. As a matter of fact, number will increase as our economy grow. We need more sweepers around dhaka.

 

[Al-zakir]

@
iajdani


u didn't reply me......u wanted to say tht 50% of assam speaks bengali...................prove it......or don't post such comments

What's the main language of Assam?

 

[Skeptic]

Well I was looking for a real number between two nations.

When a country of 160 million employs 38% of its unemployed population almost overnight, real numbers are hard to come by.

Not our problem at all. If they can obtain ID card and vote in electoral system than they are bharati citizen one way or other.

Never said it was your problem, in-fact it is the biggest reason for Illigal immigrants from BD to cheer

That is because no muslim would do these jobs. These jobs are designated for these people. I know they are none muslim however I do not know what religion they follow. I invite you to have research on this matter. Perhaps you take a visit to dhaka for further Investigation.

Your research, your statement - Onus is on you to prove. And do you think Islam looks down pon sweepers? Will it expel any sweeper if he is a muslim or wants to become a muslim?
If "I know" is you defence then discussions are as real as those unemployment numbers.

Well actually we do not want to because we need them. As a matter of fact, number will increase as our economy grow. We need more sweepers around dhaka.

Oh yeah, the stink has spread even on this forum.

 

[sab]

You and I both know that by habit we muslim likes to live side by side. So nautrally eastern bharati muslims are migrating to Assam to become muslim majority state. Hence it will form muslim majority government.

Bangladesh recent success opened this guys eyes wide open. unflourish eastern states of bharat look at us with admiration. Insh'allah we will become medium income state in short time. A majority muslim state Assam most likely would follow our foot step to success.

Bharatis headache right there. If you get my drift

No we dont look at Bangladesh with admiration. BD has done nothing yet to be admired. Perhaps you are dreaming too much. And Assam was never a Muslim majority state nor it is today. There is no reason for Muslims in other parts of India to go and settle in Assam. You know very well how many people come to India illegaly from BD, but you never confess that in an open forum just to keep up your false pride.

 

[ramu]

What's the main language of Assam?

An answer to a question cannot be a question. If you have posted something wrong then please accept it. That wont change the world but it will make this debate a lot more healthy.

Assam Languages:
Assamese and Bodo are the major indigenous and official languages while Bengali holds official status in the three districts of 22 and is the second language of the state. It is estimated that 24% of the population speak Bengali. However a majority of the population are well versed with Assamese. Source Wiki