India slams Pakistan for saying Hafiz Saeed free to roam, demands his arrest

[Rank]

You should reply like this " Cowards only cry and they can do nothing." Then you will see these cowards will keep quiet.

Similarly... coward only release and remove all the charges because of the "dont have enuff evidence" and that criminal murderer become PM of your nation LOLzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Donatello]

He's currently with the flood affected victims. Also his foundation is helping people. So he is a "MESSIAH" for those people not for you. Also, our country has provided enough evidence but it is your gov. which is ignoring it. They perhaps need more concrete evidence. Also, thousands of people flock his rallies wherever they are in Islamabad or Karachi etc. We will not swap the Samjhauta Express bombers unless the Pak. gov. arrests Hafiz Saeed. Atleast we've arrested the terrorists which your gov. hasn't.

Arrested? Just for show. How many of them are still absconding in India? How many of them have been hanged to death?

Please don't BS us.

 

[Knight Rider]

Firstly House arrest is not a big deal.Second US had their chance to attack Pakistan and they failed in May 2011 after the Chinese PM said "An Attack on Pakistan will be declared An Attack on China". So US Just ran away. Third Yesterday DG ISPR General Asim Bajwa said that Pakistan Army has broken the Backbone of Taliban groups and Their ability to carry out Terrorists attack in Pakistan is completely destroyed.As many of their commanders are dead.And the remaining groups have been pushed back in to Afghanistan.Some of their Groups has surrendered.One example is TTP (Punjab) whose leader came on media and surrendered.They will never come back because most of them are going in Iraq and Syria to join ISIS.And Pakistan has deployed 1 million troops with Armor Divisions on Afghanistan Border. Great Victory for Pakistan.

 

[Farooq]

India will cry, but will never bring any proof against him

Indians think their pro-hinduvta judicial system is unjust like Pakistan's judicial system

 

[The Headache]

Arrested? Just for show. How many of them are still absconding in India? How many of them have been hanged to death?

Please don't BS us.

What BS? It is not known for real how many of them were involved but N.I.A for sure apprehended some. But tell me one thing, India has presented evidence against Hafiz Saeed at the International courts. U.S.A if has put a bounty on his head that is for some reason. Why didn't your gov. protest against this? Why don't you arrest the one who attacked Indian embassy in Kabul ?

 

[Knight Rider]

What BS? It is not known for real how many of them were involved but N.I.A for sure apprehended some. But tell me one thing, India has presented evidence against Hafiz Saeed at the International courts. U.S.A if has put a bounty on his head that is for some reason. Why didn't your gov. protest against this? Why don't you arrest the one who attacked Indian embassy in Kabul ?

How can we arrest People in Kabul and Afghanistan.Thats Afghanis job to arrest People in Kabul not our.

 

[The Headache]

How can we arrest People in Kabul and Afghanistan.Thats Afghanis job to arrest People in Kabul not our.

Your people sponsored by I.S.I trained y army who go to Afghanistan, commence attacks.

 

[Knight Rider]

Your people sponsored by I.S.I trained y army who go to Afghanistan, commence attacks.

First give Proof.Second if ISI was training people to commence attack the first target would have been India not Afghanistan.Third your Raw is so much active in Balochistan but we will do Operation against them in Balochistan once Pakistan Army is Free from Operation Zarb-e-Azb against Taliban.

 

[Zarvan]

He's currently with the flood affected victims. Also his foundation is helping people. So he is a "MESSIAH" for those people not for you. Also, our country has provided enough evidence but it is your gov. which is ignoring it. They perhaps need more concrete evidence. Also, thousands of people flock his rallies wherever they are in Islamabad or Karachi etc. We will not swap the Samjhauta Express bombers unless the Pak. gov. arrests Hafiz Saeed. Atleast we've arrested the terrorists which your gov. hasn't.

Your government hasn't provide any proofs basically they provided jokes in the name off proofs

 

[joekrish]

Provide more Evidence that he is involved.

I dont think India needs to provide any evidence, he is doing a better job outside than he would inside.

How's hafiz saeed doing damage to Pakistan ?

Is he the best that could have happend to Pakistan?

He has only done good to Pakistan

Very true and I second that.

 

[Bratva]

Looks like you don't know anything about Interpol and its activities.ofcourse Interpol was serving notice on India's behalf.....

what is Red Corner Notice???It is to seek the location and arrest of a person wanted by a judicial jurisdiction or an international tribunal with a view to his/her extradition.as a member of Interpol,India pledged Pakistan to arrest him for crime.there is no propaganda about it,as Interpol serves notice on behalf of one entity or other.atleast this much maturity I've expected from a Senior member like you,but,as you know,Its PDF.



before calling Indians "thick Headed",how about studying the facts first????


The United Nations Security Council has added Pakistan-based terrorist group and four of its leaders to the list of entities and organizations known to support al Qaeda and the Taliban. The declaration came the same day that Pakistani officials said they would act against the Jamaat-ud-Dawa if the United Nations declared it a terrorist group as part of Resolution 1267, which also known as the al Qaeda and Taliban Sanctions Committee.

The Security Council listed Jamaat-ud-Dawa as an alias of the proscribed Lashkar-e-Taiba terror group. India and the United States have said Lashkar-e-Taiba was behind last month's three-day terror siege of Mumbai, India.

Hafiz Saeed has been listed as the leader of the Lashkar-e-Taiba. The UNSC also listed Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Haji Mohammad Ashraf, and Mahmoud Mohammad Ahmed Bahaziq as senior members of the Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Lakhvi is listed as the terror group's chief of operations. Ashraf is the group's chief of finance. Bahaziq, a Saudi national who served as the leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba in Saudi Arabia, is a senior financier.

The UNSC also updated two groups already listed under Resolution 1267 as supporting Lashkar-e-Taiba. Al Akhtar Trust has been identified as financing Lashkar-e-Taiba. The UN noted Al Akhtar Trust maintains regional offices in the Pakistani cites of Bahawalpur, Bawalnagar, Gilgit, Islamabad, Mirpur Khas, and Tando-Jan-Mahammad, as well as in Spin Boldak in Afghanistan.


Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/12/un_declares_jamaatud.php#ixzz3DSMkkFwA

China merely blocked the sanction on JUD,it didn't de-enlist them.....

read the UNSCR 1267 list,



QI.S.263.08. Name: 1: HAFIZ 2: MUHAMMAD 3: SAEED 4: na
Title: na Designation: na DOB: 5 Jun. 1950 POB: Sargodha, Punjab, Pakistan Good quality a.k.a.: a) Hafiz Mohammad Sahib b) Hafiz Mohammad Sayid c) Hafiz Muhammad d) Hafiz Saeed e) Hafez Mohammad Saeed f) Hafiz Mohammad Sayeed g) Tata Mohammad Syeed h) Mohammad Sayed i) Muhammad Saeed Low quality a.k.a.: Hafiz Ji Nationality: Pakistani Passport no.: na National identification no.: Pakistani national identification number 3520025509842-7 Address: House No. 116E, Mohalla Johar, Lahore, Tehsil, Lahore City, Lahore District, Pakistan, (location as at May 2008) Listed on: 10 Dec. 2008 (amended on 17 Jul. 2009) Other information: Muhammad Saeed is the leader of Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (QE.L.118.05.).


QE.L.118.05. Name: LASHKAR-E-TAYYIBA
A.k.a.: a) Lashkar-e-Toiba b) Lashkar-i-Taiba c) al Mansoorian d) al Mansooreen e) Army of the Pure f) Army of the Righteous g) Army of the Pure and Righteous h) Paasban-e-Kashmir i) Paasban-i-Ahle-Hadith j) Pasban-e-Kashmir k) Pasban-e-Ahle-Hadith l) Paasban-e-Ahle-Hadis m) Pashan-e-ahle Hadis n) Lashkar e Tayyaba o) LET p) Jamaat-ud-Dawa q) JUD r) Jama'at al-Dawa s) Jamaat ud-Daawa t) Jamaat ul-Dawah u) Jamaat-ul-Dawa v) Jama'at-i-Dawat w) Jamaiat-ud-Dawa x) Jama'at-ud-Da'awah y) Jama'at-ud-Da'awa z) Jamaati-ud-Dawa aa) Falah-i-Insaniat Foundation (FIF) F.k.a.: na Address: na Listed on: 2 May 2005 (amended on 3 Nov. 2005, 10 Dec. 2008, 14 Mar. 2012) Other information: Associated with Hafiz Muhammad Saeed (QI.S.263.08) who is the leader of Lashkar-e-Tayyiba. Review pursuant to Security Council resolution 1822 (2008) was concluded on 8 Jun. 2010.

Al-Qaida Sanctions List

so,who's thick headed now????

I asked a simple and you failed to comprehend as well as insisting on your stupidity. Interpol Notice is on behalf of India, that's why Interpol has no jurisdiction to act on it's own and arrest and put Hafiz Saeed in front of ICJ. Comprende ?

Look closely at UNO LINK. instead of calling me a thick head,, can you please tell me whether hafiz saeed name is put in to individuals category or as entity or organization affiliated category ?

I'm making this distinction because, If Hafiz Saeed were put in to individuals category, His movement would be restricted.

Hafiz Saeed as a private citizen has no travel restrictions put on him but whenever he associates himself to the organizations mentioned in UNO list, he will be promptly detained and put behind the bars

Why do you think Americans didn't bring him in when he agreed to voluntarily surrender himself to US consulate in lahore after 10 million hooplah?

You need to learn how loopholes can be exploited in such scenarios !

 

[GR!FF!N]

I asked a simple and you failed to comprehend as well as insisting on your stupidity. Interpol Notice is on behalf of India, that's why Interpol has no jurisdiction to act on it's own and arrest and put Hafiz Saeed in front of ICJ. Comprende ?

Look closely at UNO LINK. instead of calling me a thick head,, can you please tell me whether hafiz saeed name is put in to individuals category or as entity or organization affiliated category ?

I'm making this distinction because, If Hafiz Saeed were put in to individuals category, His movement would be restricted.

Hafiz Saeed as a private citizen has no travel restrictions put on him but whenever he associates himself to the organizations mentioned in UNO list, he will be promptly detained and put behind the bars

Why do you think Americans didn't bring him in when he agreed to voluntarily surrender himself to US consulate in lahore after 10 million hooplah?

You need to learn how loopholes can be exploited in such scenarios !

see,again you're confusing on some simple matters.do you even know what Interpol does????

INTERPOL Notices are international requests for cooperation or alerts allowing police in member countries to share critical crime-related information.

Notices are published by INTERPOL’s General Secretariat at the request of National Central Bureaus (NCBs) and authorized entities, and can be published in any of the Organization’s official languages: Arabic, English, French and Spanish.

In the case of Red Notices, the persons concerned are wanted by national jurisdictions for prosecution or to serve a sentence based on an arrest warrant or court decision. INTERPOL's role is to assist the national police forces in identifying and locating these persons with a view to their arrest and extradition or similar lawful action.

In addition, Notices are used by the United Nations, International Criminal Tribunals and the International Criminal Court to seek persons wanted for committing crimes within their jurisdiction, notably genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

Interpol doesn't simply mount an operation to capture an wanted person.its the member country's responsibility(in this case,Pakistan's) to capture and send them to the requested country.

one example how this thing works........

Bruzzese is one of several alleged men affiliated with the Calabria-based Mafia organization called the ’Ndrangheta. Its alleged members reportedly have been arrested this year in Italy, Colombia, the Netherlands, and Germany

INTERPOL Red Notices and Immigration- Why a Red Notice might cause deportation or inadmissibility even when it does not lead to a criminal arrest | Estlund Law, P.A. - JDSupra

they didn't commit any crimes on those respective countries.if there is will,there is way..



about UNSCR 1267,you don't even know what it is,right?????

The Security Council Committee established pursuant to paragraph 6 of resolution 1267 (1999) (hereafter referred to as the Committee) oversees the implementation by States of the three sanctions measures (assets freeze, travel ban and arms embargo) imposed by the Security Council on individuals and entities associated with the Al-Qaida organization. The Committee maintains a List of individuals and entities subject to the sanctions measures. By resolutions 1267 (1999), 1333 (2000), 1390 (2002), as reiterated in resolutions 1455 (2003), 1526 (2004), 1617 (2005), 1735 (2006), 1822 (2008), 1904 (2009), 1989 (2011) and 2083 (2012) the Security Council has obliged all States to:

• freeze without delay the funds and other financial assets or economic resources, including funds derived from property owned or controlled directly or indirectly
• prevent the entry into or the transit through their territories
• prevent the direct or indirect supply, sale, or transfer of arms and related material, including military and paramilitary equipment, technical advice, assistance or training related to military activities, with regard to the individuals, groups, undertakings and entities placed on the Al-Qaida Sanctions List.

Hafiz Saeed is enlisted under QI,that means an Individual category for associated with LET..JUD is enlsited under QE,as an Entity for associated with and being alias of LET.

about Hafiz Saeed's "Surrender",only word which comes out of my mouth is,LOL..where do you find this stuff....

now,read this one..its very long and boring.but it shows the status of US/UNSC over Hafeez Saeed after Pakistan's plea of de enlisting....


As you are no doubt aware, we are deeply concerned about the threat posed by LeT/JUD, and reject Saeed's and his legal representatives claim in the focal point de-listing petition that "there are no grounds for placing Saeed and JUD on the Consolidated List and the material relied upon is incorrect and baseless."
-- In fact, LeT and JUD stem from the same original organization, Markaz-ud-Dawawal-Irshad (MDI). When LeT was declared a terrorist organization in Pakistan in 2002, MDI publicly divested itself of LeT at that time and renamed itself JUD. LeT transferred most of its assets and personnel to the newly formed JUD, ensuring its survival.

-- We believe that LeT uses JUD facilities as a public front for its activities and shares offices, phone numbers, personnel and bank accounts. LeT's old offices merely changed the name on the door.

-- JUD's budget, using funds from both witting and unwitting donors, is dedicated to social services and/or humanitarian relief but some is used to finance LeT operations.

-- We are also aware that LeT and JUD share many senior leaders, including Hafiz Saeed, who according to information available to the USG, as of 2009 continued to control LeT and issue guidance to LeT members.

-- We would like here your views on the status of LeT/JUD and Saeed, and would particularly appreciate an update on steps Pakistan has taken or will take to implement UN 1267 sanctions on them.

6. (S/REL to Pakistan) Embassy Islamabad is also requested to share a non-paper, included below in paragraph 7, prepared by our intelligence community in February 2009 assessing JUD's links to LeT. This non-paper, which was previously passed by former S/CT Coordinator Dell Daily to Pakistani Ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani, provides more detailed information on our concerns about LeT/JUD and Saeed that underpin our view that their listing by the UN 1267 Committee was and remains appropriate.


US embassy cables: Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorists raise funds in Saudi Arabia | World news | theguardian.com

so,cut the conspiracy theory and accept the fact.don't believe what your media and minister claims as fact is something else.

 

[Zarvan]

see,again you're confusing on some simple matters.do you even know what Interpol does????

INTERPOL Notices are international requests for cooperation or alerts allowing police in member countries to share critical crime-related information.

Notices are published by INTERPOL’s General Secretariat at the request of National Central Bureaus (NCBs) and authorized entities, and can be published in any of the Organization’s official languages: Arabic, English, French and Spanish.

In the case of Red Notices, the persons concerned are wanted by national jurisdictions for prosecution or to serve a sentence based on an arrest warrant or court decision. INTERPOL's role is to assist the national police forces in identifying and locating these persons with a view to their arrest and extradition or similar lawful action.

In addition, Notices are used by the United Nations, International Criminal Tribunals and the International Criminal Court to seek persons wanted for committing crimes within their jurisdiction, notably genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

Interpol doesn't simply mount an operation to capture an wanted person.its the member country's responsibility(in this case,Pakistan's) to capture and send them to the requested country.

one example how this thing works........

Bruzzese is one of several alleged men affiliated with the Calabria-based Mafia organization called the ’Ndrangheta. Its alleged members reportedly have been arrested this year in Italy, Colombia, the Netherlands, and Germany

INTERPOL Red Notices and Immigration- Why a Red Notice might cause deportation or inadmissibility even when it does not lead to a criminal arrest | Estlund Law, P.A. - JDSupra

they didn't commit any crimes on those respective countries.if there is will,there is way..


about UNSCR 1267,you don't even know what it is,right?????

The Security Council Committee established pursuant to paragraph 6 of resolution 1267 (1999) (hereafter referred to as the Committee) oversees the implementation by States of the three sanctions measures (assets freeze, travel ban and arms embargo) imposed by the Security Council on individuals and entities associated with the Al-Qaida organization. The Committee maintains a List of individuals and entities subject to the sanctions measures. By resolutions 1267 (1999), 1333 (2000), 1390 (2002), as reiterated in resolutions 1455 (2003), 1526 (2004), 1617 (2005), 1735 (2006), 1822 (2008), 1904 (2009), 1989 (2011) and 2083 (2012) the Security Council has obliged all States to:

• freeze without delay the funds and other financial assets or economic resources, including funds derived from property owned or controlled directly or indirectly
• prevent the entry into or the transit through their territories
• prevent the direct or indirect supply, sale, or transfer of arms and related material, including military and paramilitary equipment, technical advice, assistance or training related to military activities, with regard to the individuals, groups, undertakings and entities placed on the Al-Qaida Sanctions List.

Hafiz Saeed is enlisted under QI,that means an Individual category for associated with LET..JUD is enlsited under QE,as an Entity for associated with and being alias of LET.

about Hafiz Saeed's "Surrender",only word which comes out of my mouth is,LOL..where do you find this stuff....

now,read this one..its very long and boring.but it shows the status of US/UNSC over Hafeez Saeed after Pakistan's plea of de enlisting....


As you are no doubt aware, we are deeply concerned about the threat posed by LeT/JUD, and reject Saeed's and his legal representatives claim in the focal point de-listing petition that "there are no grounds for placing Saeed and JUD on the Consolidated List and the material relied upon is incorrect and baseless."
-- In fact, LeT and JUD stem from the same original organization, Markaz-ud-Dawawal-Irshad (MDI). When LeT was declared a terrorist organization in Pakistan in 2002, MDI publicly divested itself of LeT at that time and renamed itself JUD. LeT transferred most of its assets and personnel to the newly formed JUD, ensuring its survival.

-- We believe that LeT uses JUD facilities as a public front for its activities and shares offices, phone numbers, personnel and bank accounts. LeT's old offices merely changed the name on the door.

-- JUD's budget, using funds from both witting and unwitting donors, is dedicated to social services and/or humanitarian relief but some is used to finance LeT operations.

-- We are also aware that LeT and JUD share many senior leaders, including Hafiz Saeed, who according to information available to the USG, as of 2009 continued to control LeT and issue guidance to LeT members.

-- We would like here your views on the status of LeT/JUD and Saeed, and would particularly appreciate an update on steps Pakistan has taken or will take to implement UN 1267 sanctions on them.

6. (S/REL to Pakistan) Embassy Islamabad is also requested to share a non-paper, included below in paragraph 7, prepared by our intelligence community in February 2009 assessing JUD's links to LeT. This non-paper, which was previously passed by former S/CT Coordinator Dell Daily to Pakistani Ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani, provides more detailed information on our concerns about LeT/JUD and Saeed that underpin our view that their listing by the UN 1267 Committee was and remains appropriate.


US embassy cables: Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorists raise funds in Saudi Arabia | World news | theguardian.com

so,cut the conspiracy theory and accept the fact.don't believe what your media and minister claims as fact is something else.

What you posted is crap no proof at all so ask your government to come up with proofs for GOD Sake

 

[sherin616]

Thats a very good point you have raised. Modi killed many Muslims in India.And he is also Anti-Pakistan.

Ya thats why his called for nawaz sharif

 

[Bang Galore]

2-We would want to have the Samjhota Express bombers also arrested and extradited to Pakistan.

On what basis? Was the Samjauta blasts carried out inside of Pakistan. What locus standi do you have?