What's new

India says no to Chinese high-speed rail

Rahul9090

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Feb 21, 2014
Messages
966
Reaction score
-1
Country
India
Location
India
India has indicated that it will not seek China's assistance in exploring the possibility of setting up its first ever high-speed rail line, dealing a blow to China Railway Corporation, which has been looking aggressively to enter the Indian market, building on its success at home. In China, the company has, in a span of five years, constructed the world’s largest high speed rail network.

The agreed minutes of the third Strategic Economic Dialogue (SED), which was held here on Tuesday, carried no reference to high-speed rail development, unlike in the previous round. China had pushed for listing high-speed rail as one area of cooperation under the SED’s infrastructure working group – one of the five groups that meet under the umbrella of dialogue.

The previous SED dialogue, which took place in New Delhi in November 2012, had highlighted three areas of rail cooperation: high-speed rail development programme, heavy haul and station development.

The minutes released on Tuesday, however, referred to “raising speeds of existing routes” instead of high-speed rail. Indian railway officials said Japan had been awarded a contract to carry out a detailed project report into the feasibility of a Mumbai-Vadodara high-speed rail line. Officials denied that security concerns were a factor in leaving China out of India’s high-speed rail plans.

“There is no such policy decision,” a senior official told Business Line, saying cooperation was possible in the future, depending on how the Japanese proposal went. Arunendra Kumar, Chairman of the Railway Board, said in an interview cost was the biggest factor. High-speed rail will involve building entirely new track, which would also require significant land acquisition, he said.

Kumar estimated the cost at ₹120 crore per km of track. India is, however, keen to get Chinese expertise in raising the speed on three railway corridors — between New Delhi and Agra, Kanpur and Chandigarh. Chinese officials said they could help raise speed from the current 130 km per hour to 160 or 200 km.

China has rapidly modernised its rail network, which only three decades ago lagged behind India’s. Express trains run at 200 to 250 km per hour, up from the 110 km per hour speed before a massive modernisation. The Government has also revamped stations to build a network of modern, airport terminal-like rail hubs.

High speed network

Indian Railways officials on Wednesday got a first-hand experience of China’s impressive railway network, travelling on a 325 km per hour train between Beijing and Tianjin, from the capital’s sprawling new South Railway station.

While Japan has a far longer history in building high speed rail lines, China has rapidly developed what is now the world’s largest high-speed rail network, building 13,000 km of entirely newly laid track. Wang Mengshu, a prominent railway and tunnelling expert at Beijing Jiaotong University, who advised the Government on its high-speed rail programme, said land acquisition would not be a major factor for India, as in China, most tracks ran on elevated rails and required “minimal farm land”.

But Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission Montek Singh Ahluwalia, who chaired Tuesday's SED and met with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang on Wednesday, said high-speed rail network may not be cost-effective for India. “In terms of cost effectiveness, we will be the lowest income country to have a high speed rail (network),” he said.

Cost factor

“Willingness to pay (may) not (be) that high, and a preference for air will not be easy to get rid of.” In China, however, the Government has defied naysayers: barring one deadly accident, the trains have established an impressive safety record, Wang said. In five years’ time, the high speed rail system has managed to attract twice as many passengers as the entire domestic airline industry, although leaving behind heavy debt.

For now, India will only be seeking Chinese expertise in heavy haul and in raising speed on its existing rail network, which would require realigning track and strengthening bridges, Ahluwalia said

India says no to Chinese high-speed rail | Business Line
 
India is co operating with China in upgrading the existing tracks !!
 
Misreporting?

“There is no such policy decision,” a senior official told Business Line, saying cooperation was possible in the future, depending on how the Japanese proposal went. Arunendra Kumar, Chairman of the Railway Board, said in an interview cost was the biggest factor. High-speed rail will involve building entirely new track, which would also require significant land acquisition, he said.
 
And kiss goodbye to HSR in India for at least the next 10-15 years。:enjoy:

By the way,China shouldn't help India with “raising the speed of existing routes”。India should instead turn to the Japs and ask for assistance,both technical and financial。

Any investment by China in Indian infrastructure is NOT in the long-term interest of China。

Shoot the short-sighted businessmen。 :D
 
And kiss goodbye to HSR in India for at least the next 10-15 years。:enjoy:

By the way,China shouldn't help India with “raising the speed of existing routes”。India should instead turn to the Japs and ask for assistance,both technical and financial。

Any investment by China in Indian infrastructure is NOT in the long-term interest of China。

Shoot the short-sighted businessmen。 :D
The article is wrongly written. We actually dont have the money. I don't believe China will do it for free???
 
Nice excuse instead of saying that we dont have the money. :lol:
 
And kiss goodbye to HSR in India for at least the next 10-15 years。:enjoy:

By the way,China shouldn't help India with “raising the speed of existing routes”。India should instead turn to the Japs and ask for assistance,both technical and financial。

Any investment by China in Indian infrastructure is NOT in the long-term interest of China。

Shoot the short-sighted businessmen。 :D
This is good news. But China 'opened' up the IT sector for these guys. Not sure why.. maybe some CPC officials have early stage of dementia?
 
indians are not prepared for HSR yet
They have been stalling the contract for the Rafale fighter jets
They just dont have the money or let the French or japanese step in and squeeze them dry till the last drop

This is good news. But China 'opened' up the IT sector for these guys. Not sure why.. maybe some CPC officials have early stage of dementia?

I think what the indians are demanding is the right to bid for IT contracts and they get it if I am not mistakened
BUT letting the indians in means opening up the candies jar for bribes which is against our anti-corruption drives right now headed by Xi!
 
Last edited:
I dont think India needs HSR right now.

At our economic stage, we need investments in
1. massive highways/expressway networks
2. upgrade to semi-high speed rail lines on existing routes
3. Transforming our decrepit railway stations and
4. perhaps doubling/tripling our rail lines everywhere to get dedicated freight lines on all major routes of the country.

These 4 things above will boost our economic growth rates. HSR can come later once we cross 5000 dollar per capita GDP mark.
 
Back
Top Bottom