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India’s Universities No Match for World’s Best
IIT-Bombay Fares Low in World University Rankings of Times Higher Education Magazine - India Real Time - WSJ

No Indian university made it in an annual list of the world’s top 200 universities.

High up in the survey, put together by the Times Higher Education magazine, were many of the much-lauded institutions– including Harvard, Stanford and Oxford.

To find your first and only Indian mention, you have to scroll way down.

The Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, widely regarded as India’s most prestigious engineering and technology school, does appear in the ranking—but not in the top 200.

The survey, which reviewed 400 universities world-wide, lumped IIT-Bombay in the generic 301-350 category.

The study ranked schools according to criteria that include the quality of the learning environment as well as the volume and influence of the research produced.

After the 200 mark, the survey no longer gave individual rankings for each university but arranged them in groups of 50. There is no comparable data for IIT-Bombay from last year, because the magazine previously only announced rankings up to 200.

The disappointing performance of Indian universities in this survey is the latest indication of something we already knew: that despite the country’s economic growth, its education system is lagging. As we already noted, although higher education institutes are churning out a growing number of university graduates, these colleges and universities are not producing enough people who are fit for employment, with companies often struggling to find new recruits.

Infosys Ltd.’s co-founder and chairman emeritus Narayana Murthy last week said the quality of education even in the illustrious Indian Institutes of Technology is actually getting worse. Part of the problem is the admission criteria, which Mr. Murthy said isn’t strict enough. As a result, “the quality of students entering IITs has gone lower and lower,” Mr. Murthy said to a gathering of IIT alumni in New York, according to the Press Trust of India. “They somehow get through the joint entrance examination. But their performance in IITs, at jobs or when they come for higher education in institutes in the US is not as good as it used to be,” he said.

This sparked an animated debate on IITs, a sensitive topic in India, where they are often viewed as veritable temples of learning. Chetan Bhagat, whose most famous novel-turned-Bollywood hit is set in an IIT, lashed back at Mr. Murthy. “It is ironic when someone who runs a body shopping company and calls it hi-tech, makes sweeping comments on the quality of IIT students,” he tweeted in response earlier this week.

The new global survey, however, adds weight to Mr. Murthy’s criticism. A stifling bureaucracy and an excessive focus on memorizing, rather than on developing analytical skills, are some of the reasons experts say higher educational institutes in India are not as good as they could be.

Indian lawmakers are hoping that allowing foreign universities play a bigger role in the country will give students some better options.

Although the bill aimed at allowing foreign universities to have a bigger presence in India is still pending in Parliament, higher educational institutes are already eyeing the Indian market.

Representatives from more than 20 American universities, including the University of Pennsylvania and Arizona State University, plan on touring India next week to explore partnership opportunities.
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so what ??? atleast we are not among the worst. so chill, we are just started to rise :)
 
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India’s Universities No Match for World’s Best
IIT-Bombay Fares Low in World University Rankings of Times Higher Education Magazine - India Real Time - WSJ

No Indian university made it in an annual list of the world’s top 200 universities.

High up in the survey, put together by the Times Higher Education magazine, were many of the much-lauded institutions– including Harvard, Stanford and Oxford.

To find your first and only Indian mention, you have to scroll way down.

The Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, widely regarded


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Representatives from more than 20 American universities, including the University of Pennsylvania and Arizona State University, plan on touring India next week to explore partnership opportunities.

talk about engineering!!!:lol:
I.I.T is famous for engineering!! LOL
(also, where is survey? where is whole ranking? points? what were d key points behind survey)

plz, also see people's comments on d same page!!!

some comments :-

"This is ridiculous. I work in San Francisco as founder of a startup, and believe me when I say no school has the reputation of IIT in Silicon Valley. Not Harvard, not Oxford, not even Stanford or MIT" -- Fazal Majid

"These Ranking Systems are inherently biased against IIT’s .. IIT’s are just technical institutes with very small number of students. They mainly just have Engineering Department and thus have no scores in Other departments !! Just see the Times ranking on technical institutes and IIT’s are ranked very very high .. go and talkt o any Professor in Engineering or Science Department of any Ranking University in US and they will tell you about IIT’s … but i agree that we need much more universities with global rankings and IIT’s need to expand as full fledged universities" -- Raj

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sad NUST should have been somewhere oh well who gives a damn in our country.
 
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sad NUST should have been somewhere oh well who gives a damn in our country.

no offence but NUST can't be even in top 1000 asian university, it may be top uni in pak but not of world standard..and let it mature first, before it can compete for such ranking
 
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Here's another thread started by Hafizz about a month ago. :angel:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/129894-india-misses-out-world-uni-rankings.html


Roy the legend said:
Its unfair to compare IITs to full fledged universities. When you compare IIT's to different engineering schools, they have better rankings.


Computer Science & Information Systems Rankings 2011


43= Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (IITD)

50 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (IITB)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur (IITK)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Madras (IITM)

101-150 Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur (IITKGP)

101-150 University of Delhi

151-200 Indian Institute of Science

Civil and Structural Engineering Rankings 2011

30 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (IITB)

38 Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur (IITK)

43= Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (IITD)

49 Indian Institute of Technology Madras (IITM)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur (IITKGP)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee (IITR)

151-200 Indian Institute of Science

151-200 Indian Institute of Technology Guwahati (IITG)

Chemical Engineering Rankings 2011

50 Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee (IITR)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (IITB)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (IITD)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur (IITK)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Madras (IITM)

101-150 Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur (IITKGP)

151-200 University of Mumbai India

Electrical Engineering Rankings 2011

41 Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (IITD)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (IITB)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur (IITK)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur (IITKGP)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Madras (IITM)

101-150 Indian Institute of Science India

151-200 Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee (IITR)

151-200 University of Delhi India


Mechanical, Aeronautical & Manufacturing Rankings 2011

40= Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (IITD)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (IITB)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur (IITK)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur (IITKGP)

51-100 Indian Institute of Technology Madras (IITM)

151-200 Indian Institute of Science

151-200 Indian Institute of Technology Guwahati (IITG)

151-200 Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee (IITR)

151-200 University of Delhi India

151-200 University of Mumbai India
 
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Well at least Indian universities does not mean madrassas. :P

And institutes like IIMs, IITs and NITs are world-famous. Plus they are tougher than Harvard and Oxford.
 
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at least these Indian universities give jobs to most of their students....and this is because hundreds and thousands of jobs are created every year :cheers:

one question though...how many students in these world's best universities are local nationals?
 
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no offence but NUST can't be even in top 1000 asian university, it may be top uni in pak but not of world standard..and let it mature first, before it can compete for such ranking

jis baat ka na pata hu us pe chup rehna behter huta ha. NUST and QAU were in the 500 list last year.
 
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