India’s top painter Husain pulled from show over threats

[jayron]

This a very lame argument given by those defending that old hag -No Hindu temple potrays any Goddess in a nude position. Those potrayed in a semi-nude position are the Apsaras and the devatas.

So get over that. And what kind of a perverted,sick mind can paint Godess Sita in a 'compromised' position on the thigh of Lord Hanuman.If somebody protesting this is called fundamentalist, then I am one.

Did not that old man's imagination run wild on Prophet or his wife ?? I guess not because the next day his hand would have been chopped off clean by the concerned religion as happened in Kerala.

And what did the 'fanatics' do ?? Did they do any body harm on that senile man ?? Not one of his hair was touched..They filed FIRs against him all over the country in a democratic,constitutional manner.Hardly the defintion of 'fanatics'.But the law abiding man that Hussein is fled his homeland to avoid facing court trials.

Bloody shyt I say - If he was so convinced of his artistic ideals why not face the case and convince the judges also ? Why run and hide like a craven woman in Qatar ?

Even conceding your argument of freedom of expression what happened to Meenaxi when the Muslim groups protested.

Did he not relent,delete those scened, and issue an apology to those ?? Why only in their case - because he knew that his artistic freedom wont cut ice with them.

Not only apsaras but deities are also shown bare breasted in temples and you cannot deny the giant naked Gomatheeswara.

I just checked the paintings and they do look weirdly erotic and perverted.

I don't think Hussein apologized for Meenaxi. He just withdrew the movie from theaters.

 

[gubbi]

And yes the same Artist who had the artistic license to paint the Hindu Gods did not have the balls to stand by the same artistic license in Meenaxi and apologised like a timorous old man.

What was the issue there? It was a shoddy piece of work and failed to draw eyeballs. Nobody saw the movie.

And if his artisitic freedom is so sincere why not stay in India and fight his case like a man instead being a loser and running to Qatar ?

That part is true. IIRC his sons reside in India. So he probably got scared of the BD/VHP goons.

And I dont know why people go to so extreme lenghts to 'force' people not to get offended at the explicit slight on their gods.

Hussein had the artistic freedom to paint whatever came to his senile mind without thinking whether or not this would be offensive to Hindus but the Hindus who protested against that and filed FIRs against him in a constitutional manner should forego that particular fundamental right. Cmon !

I never said you DONT BE OFFENDED! I said think before you become offended. If you find these paintings offensive, then so be it. I dont find them offensive. Btw, these are mostly line drawings, and leaves a lot based on your interpretation of those images. Where I see purity of soul, you see vulgarity. Perceptions!

People are filing PILs right? Lodged FIRs right? So who is asking them to stop doing that? But pray, do tell me, what is constitutional about BD/VHPs threats to MF Hussain? And yet you seem to support that?

Just be proud that the Hindus being so tolerant as they are did not cause any body harm to this man.If this had been any other religion, he would not be there living and breathing somewhere.

We are not talking about any other religion. We are talking about Hinduism and tolerance is one of the most important teachings in Hinduism. However, where is the tolerance shown by BD goons, who claim to uphold Hindu values? Do they have even the slightest idea what they are talking about? I shall reinterate my point - Maturity and Tolerance go hand in hand.

 

[justanobserver]

and you cannot deny the giant naked Gomatheeswara.

That's Jain

 

[KS]

Not only apsaras but deities are also shown bare breasted in temples and you cannot deny the giant naked Gomatheeswara.

I don't think Hussein apologized for Meenaxi. He just withdrew the movie from theaters.

[/QUOTE]

No - none of the Goddess will be in a nude position. Those carved on the walls are not Godesses.As I said they are apsaras and devatas. Godess are the ones in the sanctom sanctorum and how many of them are in a nude position. let alone like in the 'paintings' of Hussein ?

And Gomateshwara is not a Hindu God. He is a Jain God or probably one of their Tirthankaras. He is a Digambar Jain (??) who are not supposed to wear clothes.

 

[LaBong]

Abir you were one of those defending Jimm while your above post sounds apologetic you knowing well that despite such promises India wont be able to stand up to shiv sena/s

I'm no apologetic, I support Hussain, however he has been offered all sort of help. All the cases were dropped, top politicians offered security. So I don't we are responsible because of him adopting Qatar citizenship.

Personally I have no problem if someone depicts Saraswati in aesthetically pleasing way. It has been in our culture as well.

Before someone jumps on my neck and offer bounty on my head, let me clarify few things first.

Although I don't worship Saraswati or any other God(s), but as I was born in a Bengali Hindu family, Saraswati is kind of close to me. She is in our literature, songs, culture, schools, colleges, unis everywhere. So I find her as a part of my psyche.

I'd off-course take offense if someone paints her in ugly, hideous way. I'll feel hurt. Well I will not hunt for the guy's head rather simply won't look at the picture. But that's just me.

My 2 cents, feel free to disagree with it.

 

[LaBong]

No - none of the Goddess will be in a nude position. Those carved on the walls are not Godesses.As I said they are apsaras and devatas. Godess are the ones in the sanctom sanctorum and how many of them are in a nude position. let alone like in the 'paintings' of Hussein ?

And Gomateshwara is not a Hindu God. He is a Jain God or probably one of their Tirthankaras. He is a Digambar Jain (??) who are not supposed to wear clothes.

Karthic you're wrong.

Have you ever heard Saraswati Bandana?

The one which goes like - Jay Jay Devi, Charachara Saare

 

[Rig Vedic]

NEW DELHI: A gallery showing paintings by India’s most acclaimed artist M.F. Husain said Friday it had pulled them out of the country’s biggest art fair because of fears of attacks by Hindu extremists.

Following threats by a radical Hindu group that offered a reward of $11.5 million for his death, the artist moved to Qatar in 2006 and accepted Qatari citizenship in 2010.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/21/india’s-top-painter-husain-pulled-from-show-over-threats.html

Nonsense. The real reason he emigrated was that he did not want to obey Court summons.

And the probable reason that the organizers are not displaying his paintings is that they may be worried about losing the respect of the followers of Indic philosophies.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Karthic you're wrong.

Have you ever heard Saraswati Bandana?

The one which goes like - Jay Jay Devi, Charachara Saare

This is the traditional depiction of Saraswati:

MF Hussain is an ignoramus with poor taste. He deserves to be treated with pity and contempt. Hardly worth making a fuss about.

 

[jayron]

No - none of the Goddess will be in a nude position. Those carved on the walls are not Godesses.As I said they are apsaras and devatas. Godess are the ones in the sanctom sanctorum and how many of them are in a nude position. let alone like in the 'paintings' of Hussein ?

And Gomateshwara is not a Hindu God. He is a Jain God or probably one of their Tirthankaras. He is a Digambar Jain (??) who are not supposed to wear clothes.

Kali is depicted nude most of the time. Nudity is associated with purity not only in Hinduism but in prechristian Pagan cultures too.

 

[KS]

Karthic you're wrong.

Have you ever heard Saraswati Bandana?

The one which goes like - Jay Jay Devi, Charachara Saare

Yeah I have heard of it, but in a Tamil-ized manner.

And can you explain the relevance of the nude depiction to the Saraswathi Devi Vandana ??

 

[LaBong]

This is the traditional depiction of Saraswati:


MF Hussain is an ignoramus with poor taste. He deserves to be treated with pity and contempt. Hardly worth making a fuss about.

Youtube won't work for me.

Anyway the sloka which I have been uttering throughout school, college and Uni days has line like this -

KuchaJuga Shobhito Mukta haar e.

Ancient India wasn't a prudish society, this is more of a contribution of Islamic and Victorian rule. I don't understand why the upholders of Rig Vedic philosophy hopelessly defends something which has been brought in India by outsiders.

Ironic isn't it, well most of their acts are anyway!

 

[Rig Vedic]

Kali is depicted nude most of the time. Nudity is associated with purity not only in Hinduism but in prechristian Pagan cultures too.

Kali represents the primal aspect of Prakriti ... there nothing sexual about Kali.

MF Hussain is an ignoramus who knows nothing about Indic philosophies or traditions. Treat him with pity and ignore him.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Youtube won't work for me.

Ya Kundendu is very very widely known Shloka in praise of Saraswati. Ask somebody who has a little knowledge about Indian traditions and philosophy.

 

[KS]

Kali is depicted nude most of the time. Nudity is associated with purity not only in Hinduism but in prechristian Pagan cultures too.

Nope she always wears clothes covering her female parts and I dont know in which temple you saw her in a nude manner.

Can you please tell which temple ?

 

[LaBong]

Ya Kundendu is very very widely known Shloka in praise of Saraswati. Ask somebody who has a little knowledge about Indian traditions and philosophy.

That someone surely isn't you!

How to argue with someone who's main objective is to distract. :/

Kuchjugo shobhito muktahaar e

^This is my Saraswati and it doesn't matter what some nincompoop with their half-knowledge say about it.

I think I have wasted enough of my time.