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India’s Tejas ready for IAF induction in March 2012 - A K Antony

It took 40 years for India to make Tejas which would replace mig-21. Wouldn't it had been better that they bought other AC's on the billions they spent on tejas which is still to be inducted. Tejas is comparable to mirage 2000 if not better, Doesn't this makes LCA a complete failure.:D
 
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It took 40 years for India to make Tejas which would replace mig-21. Wouldn't it had been better that they bought other AC's on the billions they spent on tejas which is still to be inducted. Tejas is comparable to mirage 2000 if not better, Doesn't this makes LCA a complete failure.

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You Idiot Indians don't even know about your own plane. Maybe India is filled with idiots and that's why DRDO is also filled with IDIOTS.

In Empty Weight JF-17 is 6586kgs, while LCA is 6540kgs. LCA is made with so called composites but still it is only 46kgs lighter. What bullshit did u pack into that airframe to weigh this heavy? All this is without taking the weight of Radar, and other sub systems which has to be added in the future. If JF-17 weighs like a human, LCA is going to weigh like an average American.

LCA's G tolerance is only 6Gs & JF-17 is 8Gs. After FOC it's G tolerance is going to be only 8Gs. The Promised 9Gs is never going to be achieved by incompetent & lying Indian defense establishment, as said by themselves.

Max angle of attack is only 22. After FOC it is going to be only 24. JF-17 even now has 25 degree AoA, like an F-16.

LCA has no radar, but JF-17 has KLJ-7.

JF-17 speed is Mach 1.6. LCA speed is Mach 1.03 till now. No one knows if or when LCA will achieve Mach 1.8 as promised.

Most important of all the price. JF-17 only costs $15-20 million. Tejas costs $45 million. Is LCA made up of Gold and diamonds to cost this much? So much corruption in India!!

Even your own Air Chief is calling LCA a MiG-21++ plane. He even went on to say LCA is not a 4th generation plane.

With so much bullshit, is this plane even worthy to be inducted?

This Low Capability Aircraft is dead meat in front of our Mirage-3 and F-7PG, let alone JF-17.
It's another Arjun that the indian services don't actually want. Foreign imported Mirage 2000 shell on the outside. Mig-17 capabilities on the inside.
 
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It's another Arjun that the indian services don't actually want. Foreign imported Mirage 2000 shell on the outside. Mig-17 capabilities on the inside.
Hahaahah Miraj ??? :D
Sino get some life dude :wave:
 
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when Indian airforce is going to Induct HAL Tejas in wikipedia it is stated in 2012? Any confirmation?

First Squadron will be based soolor Coimbatore,
 
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when Indian airforce is going to Induct HAL Tejas in wikipedia it is stated in 2012? Any confirmation?

First Squadron will be based soolor Coimbatore,
Parallel thread running on news. First induction is planned @Dec 2012. But I think it will be FOC and induction of a/c will be from jan 2013 @ 15/20 a/c per year
 
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Two of the Indian Aeronautical Development Agency’s Tejas Mk 1 light combat aircraft will be ready for induction by March 2012.So far, 1,659 flight tests of the Tejas have been conducted, said defence minister AK Antony. The Indian Air Force has ordered forty Mk 1s, 20 with “initial operating clearance standard” and 20 with “final operation clearance standard”, he added.

Antony’s comments were in response to a query from a member of parliament about the status of the indigenous fighter programme. The Tejas Mk 1, which is produced by Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL), received initial operational clearance on 11 January.

He also discussed the costs of the programme. In 2001, this was estimated at Indian rupees (Rs) 33 billion ($740 million), but cost overruns added an additional Rs24.8 billion to this.

“The additional cost was to meet the expanded scope of the programme, increased cost of materials, manpower, and maintenance of facilities,” he said.

Separately, a two-seat prototype of a naval version of the Tejas Mk I aircraft could have its first flight within the next three months.

The General Electric F404-IN20-powered aircraft is undergoing ground integration tests at HAL’s facility in Bengaluru, said a senior official involved in the programme.





March of which CENTURY ?
 
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You Idiot Indians don't even know about your own plane. Maybe India is filled with idiots and that's why DRDO is also filled with IDIOTS.

In Empty Weight JF-17 is 6586kgs, while LCA is 6540kgs. LCA is made with so called composites but still it is only 46kgs lighter. What bullshit did u pack into that airframe to weigh this heavy? All this is without taking the weight of Radar, and other sub systems which has to be added in the future. If JF-17 weighs like a human, LCA is going to weigh like an average American.

LCA's G tolerance is only 6Gs & JF-17 is 8Gs. After FOC it's G tolerance is going to be only 8Gs. The Promised 9Gs is never going to be achieved by incompetent & lying Indian defense establishment, as said by themselves.

Max angle of attack is only 22. After FOC it is going to be only 24. JF-17 even now has 25 degree AoA, like an F-16.

LCA has no radar, but JF-17 has KLJ-7.

JF-17 speed is Mach 1.6. LCA speed is Mach 1.03 till now. No one knows if or when LCA will achieve Mach 1.8 as promised.

Most important of all the price. JF-17 only costs $15-20 million. Tejas costs $45 million. Is LCA made up of Gold and diamonds to cost this much? So much corruption in India!!

Even your own Air Chief is calling LCA a MiG-21++ plane. He even went on to say LCA is not a 4th generation plane.

With so much bullshit, is this plane even worthy to be inducted?

This Low Capability Aircraft is dead meat in front of our Mirage-3 and F-7PG, let alone JF-17.

Few key points

LCA tejas is designed by ADA not joint manufactured by India as in case of FC1 of pakistan

Joint production fighters that India has produced in the past surpasses technological parameters of JF 17 by quite a margin, eg: Mig 23MF/VN, Mig 27, Su30MKI, Jaguar.

Top speed of LCA tejas protoype 4 is already 1.6 with FG404 engine, and will reach 1.8 to 2.0 mach with FG414

If max angle of attack was as critical as you have potrayed, then we do have Mig 29K's, Mig 29SMT and MKI whose angle of attacks cannot be matched by anything PAF has, right?

True our air chief has called lca tejas MK1 as a mig21++ plane, how is that derogatory in any sense. Mig 21 has been a champion platform all its life, and even on its extended life it's performing pretty well. Imagine a mig 21 with enhanced maneuverability, new generation avionics and pilot friendly FBW control system, Mig 21++ seems pretty good to me. As far as mig21 ++ is concerned didn't you guys buy the same f7PG which is also claimed by you guys as an upgraded mig21 from china in 2000's.

Tejas cost is not an issue, and cost is not at all issue for IAF. JF 17's cost effectiveness is excellent, but that doesn't make it a superior fighter. When we can shell out 80 mill for rafales, and 120-140 mils for FGFA, 40 mil doesn't sound bad at all.

Just to inform you about the radar, EL/M-2032 radar used in Tejas LSP-3 has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km in air-to-air mode, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km.

It's no f22 but it's still a good achievement, we have learnt a lot from this experience, developed an entire aeronautical design bureau and testing facility which will ensure better products later. Hopefully just like the India's missile program and space program, the aeronautical program will reap benefits in the future.

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Yar 180-220 Mk2 are not possible before 2025-2028.
New prototype is in process and will induct in 2015 according to IAF.
So hardly 40MK2 are possible before 2020..

Actually the plan is to setup for a production line of 25 aircrafts per year for Mk2,
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