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I saw this article and wondering what the Indian members think about it.


India’s Kavari engine can swim and fly–doesn’t have a plane yet!

The soap opera of the Kaveri engines doesn’t ever seem to end. It has been in the design phase for about three decades with untold millions spent on the plane. Official figures vary, but experts estimate that about $1 billion has been spent on an engine that does nothing for the Indian Air Force.

Indian Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), continues to falter even after 25 years

The Kaveri was originally planned for the Tejas fighter which also has been in the design phase for 30 or so years. The Kevari has been a colossal failure, but the corrupt politicians and the military thieves want to milk it for all its worth and stuff their pockets.

The Tejas is a joke in itself. It was supposed to use the Kaveri. With that not working out, the Tejas may still use a GE engine–but the GEO engine does not fit the frame. The Snacma has been in the news for three years. Nothing has happened on the front except a lot of jaw.

The French Snecma may be an option but France may have to build a new engine for Bharat–which seems a far cry and may not be possible in the immediate future. The Tejas was designed three decades ago. Its design is obsolete now. Bharat needs a trainer aircraft, but it does not have one–hence the more than 300 Mig crashes which makes the IAF the Air Force with the worst track record on the planet.

The Kaveri was then positioned as some sort of a power source for a naval vessel.

• Kaveri Marine Gas Turbine to Power Indian Navy Ships
• Modified Kaveri engine to propel Indian Navy ships

While the Bharatis make up their mind whether the Kavari will swim or fly, the world can look on the development cycle in awe–can the Kavari walk also and propel tanks?

Indian Tejas: Case study of failure and incompetence

Now the news item proudly proclaims that the Kaveri will fly again–however on a Russian plane. The press report from the DRDO did not give details whether the Kaveri would fly in the cargo hold of the Russian plan or be strapped on the wings. Bharat has already grounded the IL-76s—not sure why the Kaveri would be flying on tankers.

Nearly two decades after defense scientists began work on an indigenous fighter engine Kaveri, officials said Kaveri will be tested on a Russian aircraft in the next two months.

Scientists of Gas Turbine and Research Establishment or GTRE, the DRDO unit have integrated the engine, developed in Bengalurum on an Illyushin 78 transport aircraft in Russia.

“In the next one and half months, it will fly,” said T Mohana Rao, director of GTRE.

“In ground trials, the engine has performed more than expectations. All issues have been addressed, including the after burner,” Rao said.
Kaveri was first conceived as an engine for Tejas, the light combat
aircraft developed by Aeronautical Development Agency based in Bengaluru.

Tejas is now being powered by General Electric-404 engines due to delays in development of Kaveri.

India has floated a tender to decide on either an upgraded GE engine on Eurofighter engine for Tejas.

Kaveri be used for future versions of the fighter aircraft.

“Gas turbine engine technology is most complex and that is the reason for the delays” Rao said.

Parallel, GTRE is going with Snecma of France to build more powerful
engines for Tejas.

Now Snecma will bring in the core, called “Eco” for the new engine and integrate with systems developed for Kaveri.

The Kaveri program has cost the exchequer nearly Rs 2800 crore.
Aeronautics Research & Development Board (AR&DB) of DRDO has taken a new initiative called “coherent directed research” in the area of gas turbines.

In this top down approach, DRDO, taking into account futuristic national programs would support, encourage, nurture, monitor and exploit the design, research, development and manufacturing capability of academic institution& R&D establishments, industries and other think tanks to carry out frontline work in bringing out next generation gas turbine engine system.

This program called “GATET” envisages about Rs 100 Cr investment in 3 years and participation of 100 R&D centers and as many as 1000 scientists, engineers and technicians.

“In five to six years, we will have a huge talent pool and
technologies for Gas turbine through this program,” said Rao. Indigenous Keveri to be tested on a Russian aircraft. Correspondent, Wednesday, April 07, 2010 AT 07:42 PM (IST), Tags: DRDO
India’s indigenous Tejas is plane under perpetual development. This “plane” has had the longest development cycle of any train, plane or automobile in the history of world. After a decade of false starts, abject failures, the Tejas remains a butt of jokes among the engineers, journalists and scientists in the aviation industry.

A lot can be achieved in two and a half decades. For an individual, it’s roughly one-third of the average lifespan. For a nation, it’s enough time for an entire generation to come through. A nation can be transformed from a marshy swamp into one of the largest economies of the world – as in the case of Singapore.

What did Indian Air Force (IAF) achieve in twenty six years while consuming over $2 billion? The answer to that is Zilch; Zero; Nada; Nothing – except a failed project and a continued embarrassment in the shape ‘Tejas’. Tejas LCA (Light Combat Aircraft, also known as Last Chance Aircraft) has gone many trials and tests and there’s no sign of induction as yet. It has now been announced to enter IAF in 2010.

India’s Kavari engine can swim and fly–doesn’t have a plane yet! Military Strategy
 
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You find wordpress authentic? LOL.

This is similar to those who are posting western academic(propaganda) reports on F-22's RCS is insect size.
 
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Wasted 5 mins of my life reading the article. One of the most biased articles I have read ...
 
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You find wordpress authentic? LOL.

This is similar to those who are posting western academic(propaganda) reports on F-22's RCS is insect size.

It is a size of a US quarter. So its the size of a big beetle.
 
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Well, maybe he is sounding an alarm for India while India slumbers and snores. tick tick tick...
 
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the article was a dud but whats up with the IL tankers why are they grounded and are you guys putting the engine on the tankers ?
 
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Sometimes i really wonder, how are these guys able to bash stuff like kaveri and lca , which do not exist even as a drawing plan in their inventory.
 
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Sometimes i really wonder, how are these guys able to bash stuff like kaveri and lca , which do not exist even as a drawing plan in their inventory.

XiNiX, they don't have to know anything about the Indian systems. All they cash in is the negative sentiment on India sells and sells well with Anti India audience. They make a living on writing *****.

BTW, missing your "feel" threads of late. Good work bro.
:cheers:
 
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Thanx 4 the entertainment. .din me ek bar to aesi thread banani chahye lol. Maja aa gai comment padh ke.
 
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the article was a dud but whats up with the IL tankers why are they grounded and are you guys putting the engine on the tankers ?

this is how it will be tested on a IL-76 air frame and not of a tanker in Russia ,

High Altitude test have been conducted where kaveri Engine was put underbelly of IL and was made to run when the aircraft was up in the air , Kaveri was not powering it. now test have been successful , now interesting development comes , now one of IL-76 engine will be replaced by Kaveri engine and will power the actual aircraft and all other data will be monitored to check engine data and ones that's done it will power a Tejas PV-1 jet by mid of next year to certify it to be air worthy it will not power Tejas currently or in future but will power range of UAV's which DRDO is working and also on AJT which DRDO wants to start
 
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