India’s arms mostly target Pakistan

[Paan Singh]

Chandigarh? Lucky basket! I know, Chandigarh is one of the best cities in india..

I live in "American Punjab" here in US...My city has alotttt of Sikhs...It is basically a Sikh city...40%+ of population of entire city is Sikh...(In reality, its way over 40%...new records are yet to be updated)...I have alot of experience with Sikhs....We have THE best 'Nagar Kirtan' mela in North America (people from as far as Canada come for Nagar Kirtan here in my city)

In my experience, you guys hate Gandhi ...Have you ever been to Lahore? Sikhs should be really afraid of any war b/w india and Pakistan because your holy sites might be in danger of getting damage? Isn't it?

Golden Temple is just like 65 km away from Border... Forget missiles, even advance Pakistani MRLs such as A-100 has a range of 100KM! So, God forbid, if a war broke out..Pakistan Army will RAIN MRLs on indian side...your holiest site can get damage severely...How would indian sikhs react in such situation?

During kargil war,There was a curfew of 30 kms in bhatinda(punjab) and first time people here saw the missiles in open.
I think bhatinda have one of our army brigade.Religious sentiments does not matter during war as its country first always.
You must be happy to know that if MMS is giving leverages to pakistan then only punjabi sentiments are responsible for it.

And the Pakistan policy is being driven by the PM’s Punjabi sentimentalism and not hard-headed realities,

Even Digvijaya gets it right on why UPA-2 isn’t working | Firstpost

 

[INDIC]

it is rightly doing so as it is scared of Pakistan.

Height of delusion coming from a Pakistani.

 

[Echo_419]

The standard of the forum is going down thx to trolls

 

[AUz]

During kargil war,There was a curfew of 30 kms in bhatinda(punjab) and first time people here saw the missiles in open.
I think bhatinda have one of our army brigade.Religious sentiments does not matter during war as its country first always.

Why was there curfew during Kargil? We are killing indians in the mountains...During Kargil conflict, Pakistan was calm as cucumber..Also, missiles in open? wow..lol...

During 2001/02 stand-off, I saw alot of Military movement towards the indian borders..but nothing of missile in open kind..

You must be happy to know that if MMS is giving leverages to pakistan then only punjabi sentiments are responsible for it.

Pakistan doesn't have any 'leverages'...

BJP would have same relationship with Pakistan...What else you can do to us? "Surgical Strike"?

Your leadership knows well that Pakistan will start bombing indian towns in case of any indian adventure..and indians will return fire..and this will lead to a full scale invasion of india from Pakistan Military! This all out war is not desired by indian establishment...So there are no 'leverages' being given to Pakistan...





Even Digvijaya gets it right on why UPA-2 isn’t working | Firstpost

 

[Kompromat]

1)India is existing with nepal,bangladesh and even sri lanka and even with china ,burma.

Other than china,none of neighbors have even conventional or unconventional power matching with india and still india prefers diplomacy first to solve issues rather than sending millitants like our few neighbors do.

India prefers bullying, it talks about merging Nepal,Maldives etc with India, created and supported insurgency in Sri lanka, invaded E.Pakistan. There is a reason why those countries are joining "Bhaarat containment policy". Most of those countries are fed up with Indian bullying.

2)Pakistan cant and dont have ability to take india head on.if you would have then you could have shown it earlier in last 60 years.

We did take you head on and it resulted in a stalemate, the fact is that India with all of its conventional might cannot dominate Pakistan. My point was taking India head on, diplomatic and economic front. India has lost its chance/ability to attack Pakistan.

3)By waging war against india every time,so you still call india as threat?

That is a fallacy that is fed to you in schools, it was India which initiated/created reasons for war every single time.

who started wars in 65,kargil and even in 71,you attacked on our borders.

lol, your school indotrination is showing its fruit..keep going!

4)Leave 2014,you guys have habit to count eggs before hatching.What ever pakistan is doing now is just to save its tail from inside war which can completely finish it after 2014.

We will wait and see.

 

[Contrarian]

India prefers bullying, it talks about merging Nepal,Maldives etc with India, created and supported insurgency in Sri lanka, invaded E.Pakistan. There is a reason why those countries are joining "Bhaarat containment policy". Most of those countries are fed up with Indian bullying.

When has India talked about merging Nepal, Maldives, Bhutan, Sri Lanka with India. Please do tell. Some authentic sources would be appreciated.

Which nation among India's neighbour's has joined a containment policy towards India barring Pakistan.
We share the best of relations with Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Myanmar and warm relations with Sri Lanka which however are erratic on account of Tamil political parties influence with the Central Govt.

We did take you head on and it resulted in a stalemate, the fact is that India with all of its conventional might cannot dominate Pakistan. My point was taking India head on, diplomatic and economic front. India has lost its chance/ability to attack Pakistan.

How do you propose Pakistan will ever be able to take India head on in economic or diplomatic. Do you realize how much India has gained in the last decade? Pakistan is no longer the equal of India in either diplomatic heft or economic might. How do you think this will happen?

That is a fallacy that is fed to you in schools, it was India which initiated/created reasons for war every single time.

If you tell me that it is India which created reasons for war every time, i will call it a brain fart. Any act can be justified by any imagined reason.
Barring 1971, all the wars between India and Pakistan have been started/initiated by Pakistan and Pakistan alone. And there are many Pakistani generals who acknowledge this fact.

 

[neehar]

what a b.s article!! indian rupee in 1999 was of 39 rupee a dollar..and now its 54 rupee a dollar..its value is decreased and so the allotment is increased.the article says our defence budjet is increased to 17%.,that 17% is the increase in defence budget from the last year.our total defence budjet is not even 3% of our gdp.author mentioned about rafale deals and modernization of army but he failed to mention about the replacement of obsolete equipment be it planes or wepons.author tried to compare indian budget with other countries except china india's gdp is 38 billion comapared to chinas 115 billion!!which is second largest after u.s..with the insurgencies caused by foreign countries with our cities being bombed and innocent civilians being targeted.with the increasing aggressiveness of china.our country has every right to defend itself incase of a war.

 

[INDIAISM]

Just 4 numbers?

Here's something : 1000 years of humiliating enslavement, complete destruction of your culture, "imposition" of Islamic Culture on your lands, hundred thousands of hindu women raped, hundreds of millions of hindus converted, ultimate humiliation of hinduism, its sacred sites, dharma, etc....AND eventually, division of india into four different countries....

But hey, you helped one group of Muslims to win against another group of Muslims? And this is your revenge?

You never had balls to enter W.Pakistan...and you never will...

Even when 1 billion indians cry, Su-30MKI enters Lahore only to get locked on by PAF F-16s and to get "escorted" back to the border, in utter humiliation of a nation of 1 billion

Even oppressed indian Muslims mock and make fun of hindus , their culture, religion...and laugh at them in public

Guys, here's something for you all

Listen this Hatred Speech from Akbaruddin Owaisi - YouTube

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Reason- Don't want to feed the troll..

 

[pkuser2k12]

Just 4 numbers?

Here's something : 1000 years of humiliating enslavement, complete destruction of your culture, "imposition" of Islamic Culture on your lands, , ultimate humiliation of hinduism, its sacred sites, dharma, etc....AND eventually, division of india into four different countries....

But hey, you helped one group of Muslims to win against another group of Muslims? And this is your revenge?

You never had balls to enter W.Pakistan...and you never will...

Even when 1 billion indians cry, Su-30MKI enters Lahore only to get locked on by PAF F-16s and to get "escorted" back to the border, in utter humiliation of a nation of 1 billion

Even oppressed indian Muslims mock and make fun of hindus , their culture, religion...and laugh at them in public

Guys, here's something for you all

Listen this Hatred Speech from Akbaruddin Owaisi - YouTube

bia itni sakth baten na karo rape wagera ki khuda ka khof kia karo.kisi ko force nae kia kia 60 crore muslims forced nasal say ae hayn koi waqiya sab par paste na karo,janay do indian hay in ko normal reply kia karo boltay hayn bolnay do magar extreme baten na karo mian

 

[nair]

Chandigarh? Lucky basket! I know, Chandigarh is one of the best cities in india..

I live in "American Punjab" here in US...My city has alotttt of Sikhs...It is basically a Sikh city...40%+ of population of entire city is Sikh...(In reality, its way over 40%...new records are yet to be updated)...I have alot of experience with Sikhs....We have THE best 'Nagar Kirtan' mela in North America (people from as far as Canada come for Nagar Kirtan here in my city)

In my experience, you guys hate Gandhi ...Have you ever been to Lahore? Sikhs should be really afraid of any war b/w india and Pakistan because your holy sites might be in danger of getting damage? Isn't it?

Golden Temple is just like 65 km away from Border... Forget missiles, even advance Pakistani MRLs such as A-100 has a range of 100KM! So, God forbid, if a war broke out..Pakistan Army will RAIN MRLs on indian side...your holiest site can get damage severely...How would indian sikhs react in such situation?

If that happens Pakistan should be the most worried... infact you should be worried ......

 

[Ayush]

this is because there is more chance of an aggression from pak than china..

agreed china is a bigger threat,but none of the countries will put their economy is jeopardy and fight a war,unless forced..

also indi china border has been peaceful,unlike the indo pak border,so yes,majority of our army is pak oriented..

new developments are takong place along the chinese border with order being passed for making of new corps along the sino india border,also we have kept increasing our missile's range to cover the whole of china..

and in case of a war,the ground troops can be moved according to will..

about poverty,yes considering india's population,yes india is home to 30% of world's poor,but we are taking steps to eradicate it,and we will do it,just like polio..

the thing is we wont sit idly,we will make progress and one day will become a major power and a developed country..

about destabilising pak and balochistan,then i would say you do the same in kashmir.. so we will reply to you too..

@Aeronaut

 

[BATMAN]

China's current territorial disputes are all limited by nature.

The disputes to the East are all maritime sea-based disputes, which are limited to naval skirmishes and not to land war.

The dispute with India is based on land rather than sea, however the dispute is limited by the formidable barrier of the Himalayas, which limits the potential danger to small-scale border clashes.

There is no real possibility in either case for an extended full-scale war.

Some how the brain of common Indian is so much washed by propaganda, that they fail to see this simple fact!

 

[Paan Singh]

Why was there curfew during Kargil? We are killing indians in the mountains...During Kargil conflict, Pakistan was calm as cucumber..Also, missiles in open? wow..lol...

During 2001/02 stand-off, I saw alot of Military movement towards the indian borders..but nothing of missile in open kind..
Pakistan doesn't have any 'leverages'...

BJP would have same relationship with Pakistan...What else you can do to us? "Surgical Strike"?

Your leadership knows well that Pakistan will start bombing indian towns in case of any indian adventure..and indians will return fire..and this will lead to a full scale invasion of india from Pakistan Military! This all out war is not desired by indian establishment...So there are no 'leverages' being given to Pakistan...

Even Digvijaya gets it right on why UPA-2 isn’t working | Firstpost

Coz uncle mushy openly threatened with nukes and india was about to open the international border.Pakistan was calm until india detect the infiltration and that was the period where pakistan enjoyed any superiority not after.

Surgical strikes? Why we should go when we can do worst damage by paying few millions who can take on your assets directly .

Your leadership knows well that Pakistan will start bombing indian towns in case of any indian adventure..and indians will return fire..and this will lead to a full scale invasion of india from Pakistan Military! This all out war is not desired by indian establishment...So there are no 'leverages' being given to Pakistan...

thats brain fart or over dose

Say thanks to our political leadership.

India prefers bullying, it talks about merging Nepal,Maldives etc with India, created and supported insurgency in Sri lanka, invaded E.Pakistan. There is a reason why those countries are joining "Bhaarat containment policy". Most of those countries are fed up with Indian bullying.

We already have 1.2 billions so no point of merging and FYI,india even neglected offer of altaf when he said about taking mohajirs back to india.Even we dint occupy single inch of BD in 71.so your logic fails here.

We did take you head on and it resulted in a stalemate, the fact is that India with all of its conventional might cannot dominate Pakistan. My point was taking India head on, diplomatic and economic front. India has lost its chance/ability to attack Pakistan.

Where stalemate?The thing is india always drawn red line.During 65 war,we had 3 times more captured land but we went back.
In 71,we could exchange something for 93000 POW's and even occupy BD but again avoided anything.Even during kargil,our policy was to free kargil not to open western front or to cross over pakistan.If india have lost chance or capability then why fear of it?Well,its the leadership and india lacks while taking on pakistan otherwise if indra would not have died,there was no pakistan now.

That is a fallacy that is fed to you in schools, it was India which initiated/created reasons for war every single time.

Being a moderator,you should search the reasons so that you can be example before others.Or contact oscar or T-Faz

lol, your school indotrination is showing its fruit..keep going!

its not ours ..its yours and even you guys are fighting on how much soldiers died in kargil.Your military took 4-5 years to show the number of deads which are even false now.

We will wait and see.

This is best bet.

 

[EzioAltaïr]

India prefers bullying, it talks about merging Nepal,Maldives etc with India, created and supported insurgency in Sri lanka, invaded E.Pakistan. There is a reason why those countries are joining "Bhaarat containment policy". Most of those countries are fed up with Indian bullying.

Even if we assume they are going to try to contain us, who is helping them? China is not stupid, it won't risk slowing it's own economy for playing power politics in South Asia. And Pakistan, quite simply does not have the numbers or supplies to last through a prolonged war.

We did take you head on and it resulted in a stalemate, the fact is that India with all of its conventional might cannot dominate Pakistan. My point was taking India head on, diplomatic and economic front. India has lost its chance/ability to attack Pakistan.

We can dominate Pakistan. Remember, back in 1965, the only true stalemate, Pakistan had way more advanced tech than India, something that is no longer true. In all following skirmishes and the one major war, we conpletely dominated, and in Kargil, we took back the peaks, even though Pakistan had the higher ground, completely strangling our supply routes, and the element of surprise. Of course, the NLI's own lack of support also caused it, ut still.

That is a fallacy that is fed to you in schools, it was India which initiated/created reasons for war every single time.

1948: Kashmir chose to remain independent, Pakistan attacked, and Kashmir asked India for help, how is that India's fault?

1965: Operations Gibraltar and Grand Slam. 'nuff said.

1984 (Siachen): Pakistan launched mountaneering expedition over disputed, LoC territory.

1999: NLI took over peaks when no one was there.

Accept it, 1971 was the only war we started.

 

[Slayer786]

we are not looser... we will loose alot with war... but pakistan loose nothing.... your economy is already drained....

Yawn. Boring reply. Heard it many times...