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India’s $4 bn howitzer gun buying spree: Why Russia may not have an edge

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India has begun the process of acquiring howitzer guns of various types. The contracts would be worth hundreds of millions of dollars each and their combined value is likely to be well over a billion dollars.

India has set aside $4 billion for its artillery projects, neglected for decades largely due to political controversies and corruption scandals. The development is significant for two reasons.

One, the Indian Army has not purchased a single gun since the infamous Bofors deal 27 years ago, a deal that rocked the Indian political establishment and implicated then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and other senior Indian officials. Eventually though none of the charges could be proved.

Two, the gun deals may be going through despite the fact that India, due to have general elections in less than ten months, seems to have put an unannounced freeze on any defence deals, particularly with foreign companies.

Russia will have have an important role to play in at least one of the upcoming howitzer contracts, expected to be worth around $350 million. Russian Rosoboronexport seems ideally suited for supplying 100 self-propelled tracked howitzer guns to the Indian Army and the trials are slated to begin later this month itself.

Rosoboronexport is likely to be pitted against an unlikely rival: Larsen&Toubro, an Indian company. L&T has been issued industrial licenses for a wide range of products after Government of India’s decision to open up defence production to the private sector. The licenses issued cover design, development, construction/ manufacturing and assembly of a wide range of defence equipment, arms and armaments and weapon launchers.

Insiders say that L&T is expected to give the Russian company very stiff competition. The L&T howitzers have been built in collaboration with South Korean Samsung Techwin, which means that the Russian companies’ rivals in the Indian defence industry are increasing by the day.

The South Korean company has already signed a contract with L&T for making key technologies available to the Indian company and producing the guns here.

This sends out another important message to the Russian defence industry that has not done too well in the Indian defence sector lately, and the Russians have lost out to American, European and even Israeli companies on several big-ticket defence deals.

The message is this: the Russians need to develop Indian partners, the more the better, as recent policy guidelines from the Indian defence ministry have laid huge stress on the ‘buy Indian’ theme.

Indian Defence Minister AK Antony’s statement in Parliament on 6 May should leave no one in doubt on this score.

This is what he said while confirming the upcoming contract for 100 guns: “A case for procurement of Qty.100 x 155mm/52 Caliber Tracked (self-propelled) guns is in progress wherein three Indian vendors, including two private sector companies, have been selected for trials of their equipment. The recent amendments to the DPP-2011 which have been accepted by the Defence Acquisition Council aim to give higher preference to indigenous capacity in the Defence Sector.”

The recent Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) guidelines have made it clear that the Indian government will choose to import defence goods only as a last resort and in cases where the required technologies are not available within the country. However, these guidelines have left enough room for foreign companies to forge joint ventures with Indian companies.

The Indian Army modernisation programme is quite ambitious. It has plans to induct 2,814 guns of different types, capabilities and calibre. Assuming for argument sake that the Indian Army was to induct all these guns, from foreign as well as domestic sources, at one go, it would cost around ten billion dollars at current exchange rates.

However, the actual process will take years. The current contract of 100 guns itself is unlikely to be inked this year as the trial phase itself would spill over to the first quarter of next year. The guns will be undergoing winter trials this year-end.

Moreover, given the renewed focus on self-reliance and indigenisation, the Indian Army has asked the state-owned Ordnance Factory Board to deliver over 300 indigenous versions of Bofors guns.

The Indian Army’s current guns stock is believed to have touched an all time low of just about 200 operations guns of 155/39 caliber, one of the reasons behind the then Army Chief General VK Singh shooting off a no-holds-barred letter to Prime MinisterManmohan Singh about the dire state of Indian military preparedness last year.

There is yet another message for the Russians that booms out loud and clear from the Indian guns saga. The Russians need to translate their deep political clout with the Government of India into bagging big Indian defence contracts through the government-to-government route.

In May last year, the Indian defence ministry had cleared a $660 million deal for buying 145 ultra-light M777 guns from the United States. The move was duly cleared by the Defence Acquisition Council headed by the defence minister. A significant feature of the M777 deal is that the guns are being bought under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme of the US government, a government-to-government route.

The Russians are not unaware of this. In fact, the new Russian strategy vis a vis Indian defence industry will be very much visible in the upcoming top-level Indo-Russian bilateral exchanges from September onwards.
 
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As usual the guns will come after 2 decades while all the money would be gobbled as a last great robbery by this regime.

The recent Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) guidelines have made it clear that the Indian government will choose to import defence goods only as a last resort and in cases where the required technologies are not available within the country. However, these guidelines have left enough room for foreign companies to forge joint ventures with Indian companies.

What is left to know after this? :lol:

Sitting on Bofors TOT for 25 years and now bringing this useless statement.

Sometimes it is worth wondering what a miracle it is that the destiny of this country is in the hands of such losers.
 
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Can anyone tell me who are the remaining competitors with which guns in the SP,Towed and Mounted gun system competitions after blacklisting.I thought samsung was blacklisted along with rheinmetall,this is getting confusing.
So apart from these deals.Army wants 300 bofors guns of old with upgrades and m-46 upgrade on about 500 guns?
 
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now its again very confusing what's in ofb bag 300 155/45 indigenous versions of Bofors guns and there is a report also if i mn't wrong for upgradation of all m-46 to 155mm dat's also may be in ofb account,,,,,,and private players are brought only for 100 tracked self propelled gun

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

only god can tell when we r gonna get rid of this artillery saga .............
 
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Hold on.... Wasnt TATA building one too? and Bharat Forge- a Baba Kalyani Group, with some foreign procurement?



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seems like india are planning world war another hittler india crazy for war
 
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Wouldn't be surprised if this howitzer deals goes bust didn't they already choose the M777 howitzer?
 
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Wouldn't be surprised if this howitzer deals goes bust didn't they already choose the M777 howitzer?

There are 5-6 DIFFERENT arty projects/procurements currently going on for the Indian army simultaneously. The M777 deal is just one of these deals and for a very specfic purpose ie mountain warfare. The IA is also after 100s if truck-mounted SPGs, 100s of track-mounted SPGs, up-gunning of existing arty peices, new up-gunned tower arty etc etc
 
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Wouldn't be surprised if this howitzer deals goes bust didn't they already choose the M777 howitzer?

We did,to be signed this fiscal year.145 initially.290 more later.

seems like india are planning world war another hittler india crazy for war

What makes u say that?U saying we should have no artillery in our armed forces?Or keep using decades old designs.
 
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seems like india are planning world war another hittler india crazy for war

Whaaatttt??? :what:

r u scared? just kidding bhijan,

look artillery department is quite old, design is also getting obsolete we we are getting new.... our economy isn't plunging much yet, so increasing little fire power.
I guess GOP will do the same soon after its economy has recovered
 
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Whaaatttt??? :what:

r u scared? just kidding bhijan,

look artillery department is quite old, design is also getting obsolete we we are getting new.... our economy isn't plunging much yet, so increasing little fire power.
I guess GOP will do the same soon after its economy has recovered

You seems to be peaceful person actually 1st Such person from India i ever saw……
I appreciate your way of replying……:tup:
well About artillary I have nothing to do with IA as I don't have any knowledge about the way of their pronouncement and slection but yeah IA artillary is quite old and needed to be replaced but 2-3 billion dollars purchases at a time, its hard for neighbours to stand by when such huge deals are done by a country well a big country having big needs……:coffee:
 
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