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India, Russia ink S-400 missile system deal

Just To clarify

1 S400 Battalion has 8 Launchers or 112 missiles, command and support vehicles.
1 S400 Regiment has 2 Battalions

In 2015 China bought 6 S400 Battalions for $3 Billion but not the 400 km (40N6 missile). $500 million per battalion including the command and support structures.

India bought 5 S400 Regiments or 10 Battalions for $5.4 Billion including the 400 km (40N6 missile). $540 Million per Battalion.
 
Both Game changers
1. Brahmos world fastest missile
2. S400 system, Real worry for us.
S400 fly’s with MACH 15, and it can fire multiple intercept missiles.
What should we do , is to speed up Ababeel program with MIRVs, I think only MIRVs can challenge S400, And multi-tube cruise missiles to some extent.

Can’t say about our fighters,
Even U.S.A airforce wants the army help for F35, against S400 system.

U.S Air Force wants the Army's help to beat Russia's advanced 'F-35 killer' air-defense system



https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/amp...o-beat-russia-s-400-air-defense-system-2018-7
Do you know how much each missile costs?
Definitely not a cost effective idea or a good tactic
 
Don't believe everything you hear from your Pandit/Brahmin either. lol.

Pakistanis rooting for an American sanction on India, because it bought Russian weapons.

On one hand Pakistanis hate Americans, on the other hand they are trying to cosy up to Russia, at the same time also rooting for American sanctions on Russia and India. Pakistan's India obsession is the reason why its foreign policy is neither here nor there.
We have no obsession with you guys. But it is the other way round, you Indians come on Pakistani forums and bark about bad things about Pakistan and good things about India. :lol:

Yes, USA has double crossed Pakistan,many times. Thats why Pakistanis do not trust USA anymore.

Thats why Pakistanis prefer working with Chinese over Americans anyday.

Public opinion in Pakistan is against USA now.
 
1 S400 Battalion has 8 Launchers or 112 missiles, command and support vehicles.

1 S400 Regiment has 2 Battalions

In 2015 China bought 6 S400 Battalions for $3 Billion but not the 400 km (40N6 missile). $500 million per battalion including the command and support structures.

India bought 5 S400 Regiments or 10 Battalions for $5.4 Billion including the 400 km (40N6 missile). $540 Million per Battalion.

India has bought 5 regiments of S400 Missile, Even If 2 Regiments are deployed, One each in Rajasthan and Punjab.

It will bring 80 % of Pakistani airspace within Indian SAM range and 100% percent of Pakistani airspace in detection range of S400 Radars which can detect aircrafts up to 600 KMs.
 
S-400 is already doing the damage to India the threat if sanctions is crashing the Indian markets this very sad and very bad for India.


S-400 can defend ballistic missiles bit can it also defend economic missile lol. Very sad and very bad for India.


If all of you Indians are going to run away why the hell do you tag me to a thread?
U always have constipation when ever India gets attention. Interesting fact for u Pakistanis , $5.43 billion is 70% total Forex reserve of Pakistan.
 
Pakistanis rooting for an American sanction on India, because it bought Russian weapons.

On one hand Pakistanis hate Americans, on the other hand they are trying to cosy up to Russia, at the same time also rooting for American sanctions on Russia and India. Pakistan's India obsession is the reason why its foreign policy is neither here nor there.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....-response-after-sanctions-threat-1900007.html


Well seems like US changed its tone..
 
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Mate, this is what CNN says the American edition:

India risks US sanctions following $5 billion Russia defense deal
By Manveena Suri and Steve George, CNN



Updated 8:07 AM ET, Fri October 5, 2018




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Last month, the US imposed sanctions against China for its purchases of Russian military equipment, including the S-400, under CAATSA legislation.
But whereas China is an emerging rival power, India is seen as an important US strategic ally.
US defense chiefs have worked hard to increase cooperation with Delhi in a range of areas in recent years, amid shared concerns over Chinese military expansion in the Indo-Pacific region.
India's purchasing of the Russian weapons system effectively forces the Trump administration to choose between punishing Delhi -- and destroy the fledgling defense relationship -- or granting the country an exemption, weakening the effect of the sanctions and opening up the US to accusations of favoritism.
Following the completion of the deal Friday, the US embassy in Delhi told CNN that CAATSA legislation was not intended to "impose damage to the military capabilities of our allies or partners."
Asked whether the India-Russia deal would qualify for a potential exemption, the spokesperson said the embassy was unable to "prejudge any sanctions decisions."
"There are strict criteria for considering a waiver," said the spokesperson, adding that waivers would be considered on a "transaction-by-transaction basis."
Speaking to CNN, Peter Layton, from Australia's Griffith Asia Institute, said the problem for the US is that if it allows India to purchase the S-400 there is no reason why it should not also allow other countries, such as Turkey to do so too.
"The CAATSA will appear a rather subjective sanction program if it only applies to some nations and not all," said Layton.


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S-400 since 2015.
The high-tech system is considered the most effective surface-to-air system in its class, surpassing the capabilities of the aging US Patriot missile system, according to experts.
It can engage targets, including manned and unmanned aircraft, cruise missile and ballistic missiles at a range of up to 400 kilometers, while remaining beyond the reach of standard radar jamming equipment.
"The S-400 being so capable and at a relatively affordable price is hard for US arms manufacturers to compete against," said Layton, who described the missile system as offering superior value-for-money to comparable US options.


Why the Modi-Xi meeting matters

Unsurprisingly the S-400 is a big export priority for Russia. Friday's deal with India follows a similar deal with Turkey, which despite being a NATO ally, signed a provisional agreement to buy the Russian-made system in December.
The Turkey deal has caused consternation in Washington, where a bipartisan group of lawmakers have attempted to block the transfer of the US' F-35 Joint Strike Fighters to Turkey, citing security concerns.
US defense officials believe once operational, the S-400 could be used to gather technical data on US designed fighter planes and that critical information could be passed to Moscow either intentionally or unintentionally through a back door in the Russian designed system.
India's purchase of the S-400 may result in the US refusing to sell "advanced fighter aircraft types" to Delhi in the future, said Layton.
"It is important to note that other parts of the US-India relationship would not be impacted, simply the sale of advanced military aircraft," added Layton.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi pictured on the sidelines of the 2017 BRICS Summit in Xiamen, southeastern China.
Potential get out
India is considered among the world's most lucrative markets for arms exporters. According to a 2017 report by the UK's Royal Institute of International Affairs, India was responsible for 10.3% of global arms imports between 2000 and 2016, with Russia supplying 72% of those imports.
The US though is catching up fast, becoming India's second largest arms supplier, ahead of Israel.
"If you look at the numbers and where India has been buying from, you see a trend where America stands heads and shoulders above everyone else, and there's more in the pipeline," said Harsh V. Pant, a professor in International Relations at King's College London, referencing India's increased defense cooperation with the US.
Last year, US defense company Lockheed Martin offered to move its production of F-16 fighter jets to India, if the Indian government granted it a contract to supply fighter jets to the country's air force.
It is those future deals, coupled with the need to maintain a strategic regional relationship with India, that will force Washington to overlook India's purchase of the S-400, argued Pant.


India's Modi hails 'old-time friend' Russia during Putin summit

"There have been enough signals that India's case will be considered sympathetically. Of course, we don't really know given the Trump administration and Mr. Trump being Mr. Trump," said Pant.
Washington has previously appeared open to discussing a potential sanctions exemption for India.
In response to a question on the question of possible sanctions during the Indo-US 2+2 Dialogue last month, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that "no decision has been made."
"We are working to impose CAATSA Section 231 in a way that is appropriate and lawful and to exercise that waiver authority only where it makes sense," said Pompeo adding that the US and India would look to reach an "outcome that makes sense for each of our two countries."
Speaking to CNN, Ajai Shukla, a former colonel in the Indian Army and defense specialist, said the US would be unlikely to risk destabilizing its strategic alliance with India.
"That's why they (US Congress) passed the waiver sanction. India will almost certainly come under that waiver because the United States understands that stakes with India are far too high to jeopardize relations," Shukla said.
Ties between Russia and India date back to the Cold War, but evolving priorities and alliances have taken a toll.
"India sees it as a normal strategic hedging strategy but with Russia, there is a deep concern. That's what makes Putin's visit so important," said Shukla, adding that Russia likely sees the deal as a test of India's friendship during a period of heightened hostility from the US.
"Russia has signaled that it's not happy with India, so it's gone ahead to forge relations with China, Pakistan and Afghanistan."
CNN's Ryan Browne and Sugam Pokharel contributed to this report.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/05/asia/india-s400-deal-intl/index.html
 

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