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Published October 7, 2016
SOURCE: RUSSIA & INDIA REPORT
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India plans to sign several big-ticket defence deals with its traditional and strategic partner Russia during the annual summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on October 15-16, coinciding with the BRICS summit, in Goa. This is the third annual bilateral summit between Putin and Modi.

The defence deals, worth billions of dollars, have long been discussed between the two countries. Officials are expediting the exchanges to ensure some agreements are ready for signing at the Goa bilateral summit.

Both countries had begun negotiations on a number of defence cooperation projects during the 16th meeting of the Joint Working Group (JWG) on Indo-Russian Military-Technical Cooperation on September 7-8, in New Delhi. Reports indicate that substantive progress has been made on these projects, bringing the deals and pending projects “well on track.”

According to sources, some of the most important stalled defence deals, may get the “green signal’ during the Putin-Modi summit. These include purchase of five S-400 ‘Triumph’ long-range air defence missile systems, worth $6 billion, an IL-78 multi-role tanker transport by India, the joint upgrading of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters and Kamov-28 helicopters. The projects most likely to be finalized during the summit also include the long-awaited joint development of the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) worth over $20 billion, and the joint production of Kamov Ka- 26 light helicopters.

India is reported to be still in talks with the Russian side on the purchase ofS-400 Triumph air defence systems. It may be recalled that under the chairmanship of Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), the highest body that takes decisions on weapons purchasing, had cleared the purchase of S-400 air defence systems from Russia in December 2015. However, Russia is still awaiting the “final go-ahead” from India on the supply of the newest missile systems.

Negotiations between New Delhi and Moscow on the deliveries of S-400 surface-to-air missile systems and on some other aspects of military-technical cooperation between the two countries are in progress, Pankaj Saran, India’s Ambassador to Russia, said recently.

“There are many platforms for discussions and S-400 is one of them,” Saran said.

If the deal on S-400s is signed, it will become the biggest defence deal between the two countries since 2001, when India reached agreement with Russia to buy 140 Su-30MKI fighter jets. India might also become the second country to possess S-400s.

Russia signed an agreement with China in April 2015, for the delivery of the S-400s. Russia’s delivery of the cutting-edge missile systems to India, will strengthen its air defences along the borders with China and Pakistan.

Discussions on the joint development of FGFA resumed earlier this year, after they were suspended over differences on the percentage of work- share in the research and development content between India and Russia. The preliminary agreement on the joint production of FGFA was signed in 2010, and a final agreement would release about $6 billion for joint development.

Following a series of negotiations on technical details over the past few months, the two countries are now ready with a detailed work-share agreement, under which Russia will share new generation aircraft technologies as a part of a deal to produce more than 100 fighters in India.

During the two-day meeting of the JWG of the Military-Technical Cooperation in September, Russia submitted a “technical-commercial proposal” to supply India with four multi-purpose frigates equipped with sensors and weapons, including BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles. Under the proposal, out of four frigates, two will be delivered from Russia, and the other two will be built in India. There are already six frigates, including three Talwar-class and three Teg-class frigates, with the Indian Navy.

The JWG also discussed the issue of joint production of 200 Ka-226 twin engine multi-role helicopters. The deal on joint production of the Ka-226 helicopters in India under technology transfer from Russia, was signed during the visit of Prime Minister Modi to Moscow in December 2015. Sources said 60 helicopters would be supplied for assembly in India, while the remaining 140 will be manufactured in India. It is the first major project to be implemented under Indian government’s “Make in India” programme. The contract is estimated to cost over $1 billion.

Russia and India have agreed to incorporate a new company in October for the joint production of Ka-226 helicopters, and the deal is expected to be signed during the coming summit, in Goa.

Media reports in September also indicated that India is also interested in leasing a second nuclear- powered submarine from Russia. Negotiations for leasing another Akula-class submarine for about $1.5 billion, are already in the final stages. India’s only nuclear attack submarine, INS Chakra, was also leased from Russia in 2012 for 10 years for a price of $900 million.

India is interested in a different and newer class of vessel. Officials have expressed hope that a deal may be signed very soon. Russia is also assisting India in building its indigenous nuclear submarines.

The two countries have also made significant progress in the negotiations for the modernization of Su-30 MKI multi-role fighters and an agreement is planned to be signed very soon. Discussions have been going on for some time for upgrading the aircraft which was called “Super Sukhoi,” but the talks gained momentum recently in the run up to the Putin-Modi summit in Goa. The cost of the deal, in the range of $7 to 8 billion, is yet to be finalized, sources said.

The military-technical cooperation between India and Russia is as an important pillar of the “privileged, special strategic partnership.” It is not merely a relationship of a “buyer and seller,” but works on complex joint research, designing, development and production projects, with participation of the Indian public and private sectors, and licensed production in India, thereby advancing the ‘Make in India’ programme.
 
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India Should set manufacturing Shop in Russia itself and send techies from India for training and work sharing purpose. Don't give money to Russian Govt. instead pay money to JV Firms as we doing in Oil Industries in Russia. Russian as Govt. have different priorities then Defence firms.
 
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I'd like to get out hands on Russian Armada T-14 tank, Yasen class sub and India's next generation SSN to be based on Yasen class, new engine technology from PAKFA, Photonic Radar, laser weapons [[russia is pretty advanced in that domain]], Magrav electronic warfare systems aka Kabiny are some of things, I'd like to get.
 
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Why we paying 6 billions for only 5 batteries of s400 chaina getting much less. Will China get full 400 km range missile without getting membership of mtcr.

Are we getting any advantage of being member of mtcr and reliance's contract for joint R/D of future radar technology (partnership in 6 billions deal) . will our system be 400+ variant ??
 
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Why we paying 6 billions for only 5 batteries of s400 chaina getting much less. Will China get full 400 km range missile without getting membership of mtcr.

Are we getting any advantage of being member of mtcr and reliance's contract for joint R/D of future radar technology (partnership in 6 billions deal) . will our system be 400+ variant ??

We are already working on Nirbhay .


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Nirbhay is an all-weather, low-cost, long-range cruise missile capable of carrying conventional and nuclear war heads. The missile has a range of more than 1000 km, weighs about 1500 kg and has a length of 6 metres.The missile is powered by a solid rocket booster for take off which is developed by Advanced Systems Laboratory(ASL). Upon reaching the required velocity and height, Turbofanengine in the missile takes over for further propulsion. The missile is guided by a highly advanced inertial navigation system indigenously developed by Research Centre Imarat(RCI) and a radio altimeter for the height determination.The missile can carry warheads ranging between 300 kg and 400 kg and a total of 24 types of warheads can be attached based on mission requirements. It can be launched from multiple platforms including aircraft, land-based vehicles/launchers, ships and submarines and shall be inducted into Indian Navy, Army, and Air Force.

Nirbhay is a two-stage missile system with loitering capability. Nirbhay is equipped with ring-laser gyroscope for accurate strikes.

Nirbhay missile can use the Su-30MKI’s existing pylons that now carry the Brahmos missile. DRDO is considering Nirbhay missile to arm Tejas, a light fighter jet with a rocket “shortened” by about 25%.

Nirbhay can be adapted for naval release by both a surface ship and submarines. It has a range of 1500 kms, weighs 1000 kgs, and its current engine is ramjet technology.

A highly advanced inertial navigation system, which was indigenously developed by Research Centre Imarat (RCI), guides the weapon. The missile can reach flight altitudes 500m and 4km above the ground and can also fly at very low levels to avoid detection by enemy radar.
 
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We are already working on Nirbhay .







Nirbhay is an all-weather, low-cost, long-range cruise missile capable of carrying conventional and nuclear war heads. The missile has a range of more than 1000 km, weighs about 1500 kg and has a length of 6 metres.The missile is powered by a solid rocket booster for take off which is developed by Advanced Systems Laboratory(ASL). Upon reaching the required velocity and height, Turbofanengine in the missile takes over for further propulsion. The missile is guided by a highly advanced inertial navigation system indigenously developed by Research Centre Imarat(RCI) and a radio altimeter for the height determination.The missile can carry warheads ranging between 300 kg and 400 kg and a total of 24 types of warheads can be attached based on mission requirements. It can be launched from multiple platforms including aircraft, land-based vehicles/launchers, ships and submarines and shall be inducted into Indian Navy, Army, and Air Force.

Nirbhay is a two-stage missile system with loitering capability. Nirbhay is equipped with ring-laser gyroscope for accurate strikes.

Nirbhay missile can use the Su-30MKI’s existing pylons that now carry the Brahmos missile. DRDO is considering Nirbhay missile to arm Tejas, a light fighter jet with a rocket “shortened” by about 25%.

Nirbhay can be adapted for naval release by both a surface ship and submarines. It has a range of 1500 kms, weighs 1000 kgs, and its current engine is ramjet technology.

A highly advanced inertial navigation system, which was indigenously developed by Research Centre Imarat (RCI), guides the weapon. The missile can reach flight altitudes 500m and 4km above the ground and can also fly at very low levels to avoid detection by enemy radar.
But 2 out of 3 tests was failed ..

Last test on Low aptitude after reaching 200-300 km nirbhay was crased..

Any news of latest situation?
 
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But 2 out of 3 tests was failed ..

Last test on Low aptitude after reaching 200-300 km nirbhay was crased..

Any news of latest situation?

Those tests were not failed ,

As i remember it was something 734 kms and another some 343 kms .


Agni VI is like this , Ek darkhas , sab barkhas.
 
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Why we paying 6 billions for only 5 batteries of s400 chaina getting much less. Will China get full 400 km range missile without getting membership of mtcr.

Are we getting any advantage of being member of mtcr and reliance's contract for joint R/D of future radar technology (partnership in 6 billions deal) . will our system be 400+ variant ??

Actually member nations are using ways to circumvent the 300km mark. Brahmos have a range pretty more than 290 but its actual range is classified. Similarly Russia on paper will see S-400 with 300 km range, but in actual it will be S400 missile units.

The Radar and tracking system is more important on the S systems than the missiles itself. China can even install their very own missiles or Russia can deliver under the table as usual.
 
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Why we paying 6 billions for only 5 batteries of s400 chaina getting much less. Will China get full 400 km range missile without getting membership of mtcr.

Are we getting any advantage of being member of mtcr and reliance's contract for joint R/D of future radar technology (partnership in 6 billions deal) . will our system be 400+ variant ??

We arent paying that for 5 batteries. But for 5 battalion, or 2 regiments. China as of now is buying 6 Batteries , with an interest to procure 6 Battalions or 3 regiments.
 
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We arent paying that for 5 batteries. But for 5 battalion, or 2 regiments. China as of now is buying 6 Batteries , with an interest to procure 6 Battalions or 3 regiments.

Chinese buying of S400 from Russia is the real problem in the region and on that North Korea's nuclear tests.

Rosoboronexport CEO Anatoly Isaikin announced the sale on April 13. He told news media outlets that the S-400 was in demand in the international market and that China would be the first export customer. No specifics were revealed, but the actual contract was most likely signed in the last quarter of 2014, Kashin said. He said the deal will include four to six battalions at about US $3 billion.

The S-500 is expected to enter serial production in 2017; roughly, the same time China receives its first S-400 delivery, Kashin said.


According to Missile Threat, the Chinese developed much of the HQ-9’s technology from a Patriot battery Beijing acquired from Israel, due to which HQ-9’s guidance system is modeled on the Patriots. This means that the HQ-9 uses the Patriot’s “track-via-missile” guidance system—allowing the HQ-9 interceptor to fly directly at an incoming missile

Chinese HQ-9 is further supported by HQ-7B (20km), HQ-16 (40km) and S-300-PMU2 (200km) which eventually allows China to form an integrated multi-layered air defense system.
 
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Chinese buying of S400 from Russia is the real problem in the region and on that North Korea's nuclear tests.

Rosoboronexport CEO Anatoly Isaikin announced the sale on April 13. He told news media outlets that the S-400 was in demand in the international market and that China would be the first export customer. No specifics were revealed, but the actual contract was most likely signed in the last quarter of 2014, Kashin said. He said the deal will include four to six battalions at about US $3 billion.

The S-500 is expected to enter serial production in 2017; roughly, the same time China receives its first S-400 delivery, Kashin said.


According to Missile Threat, the Chinese developed much of the HQ-9’s technology from a Patriot battery Beijing acquired from Israel, due to which HQ-9’s guidance system is modeled on the Patriots. This means that the HQ-9 uses the Patriot’s “track-via-missile” guidance system—allowing the HQ-9 interceptor to fly directly at an incoming missile

Chinese HQ-9 is further supported by HQ-7B (20km), HQ-16 (40km) and S-300-PMU2 (200km) which eventually allows China to form an integrated multi-layered air defense system.

One word summarizes what you wrote: rubbish.
 
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One word summarizes what you wrote: rubbish.

Start thinking from all angles , you will get the answer .

United States of America is aware why Indians, Arabs and Turks are united on many fronts.
 
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