India rightfully enjoys high authority in world: Dmitry Medvedev

[Chinese-Dragon]

Only they started returning they favour with the same tone when some Pakistani and Chinese posters including you started punching in the typical rants, like Russians are racists against Indians on the streets, India do not have UN Permanent membership, they are doing it because of Indian money blah blah.

These are their opinions right?

(And they have backed their statements up with sources?)

 

[below_freezing]

You also seem to have forgotten who earns the most on all goods manufactured.

Take for example Apple's iPhone - entirely assembled in China:

Adding Up the iPhone


so much for manufacturing No. 1.

Yeah so that's the iPhone. We don't consider that as a Chinese product.

What about Huawei which goes from chip to network all in China?

In state owned companies, are any Indian companies at the level of Datang Telecom? Lenovo? China Mobile? Sinopec? Shanghai Electric?
In private companies, are any Indian companies at the level of Huawei? ZTE? SMIC? Shagang Steel?

I have respect for India's achievements but in terms of high tech products, they have yet to catch up to even 1987 China (when Huawei and Lenovo were founded).

 

[newdelhinsa]

These are their opinions right?

And they have backed their statements up with sources?

It has nothing to to with what state head is saying. Open a new topic on each of your so called source backed diatribes.

 

[gubbi]

Do you think the Financial Times is wrong?
Financial Times - China noses ahead as top goods producer

Of course its not. What I pointed out is the difference in being the TOP manufacturing country vs amount of money earned for manufacturing a product. See the difference?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

These are their opinions right?

(And they have backed their statements up with sources?)

opinions that had nothing to do with the thread . There was no need of any sources .

 

[IndoCarib]

These are their opinions right?

(And they have backed their statements up with sources?)

Off topic rants backed with links dont help in discussion they only derail the thread.

 

[Abhishek_]

Yeah so that's the iPhone. We don't consider that as a Chinese product.

What about Huawei which goes from chip to network all in China?

In state owned companies, are any Indian companies at the level of Datang Telecom? Lenovo? China Mobile? Sinopec? Shanghai Electric?
In private companies, are any Indian companies at the level of Huawei? ZTE? SMIC? Shagang Steel?

I have respect for India's achievements but in terms of high tech products, they have yet to catch up to even 1987 China (when Huawei and Lenovo were founded).

freeze, like many have mentioned, China and India have taken different development paths. You went to manufacturing so obviously you have a lead, we went into services with minimal focus on manufacturing. It will be pointless for me to compare chinese companies to heavy weights like reliance, TATA, Wipro, Bharti, Infosys, Mahindra, L&T, BHEL, BEL, BSNL, SBI, HP, ONGC, Hindalco, ICICI, SAIL, Jindal Steel etc.

 

[CardSharp]

here you have it.

From 1990 - 2010

Russia - China : $28 billion

Russia - India : $22 Billion

Source: http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/values.php

Ahhh you meant past business. What is current is a completely different picture of course. I made this graph out of the SPIRI report a while ago.

As it pertains to this thread, Russia would be concerned with future business versus a country that no longer requires their products. His point holds.

 

[Abhishek_]

CS, can you plot the same graph for the past 20 years, 5 years doesnt really say much

 

[CardSharp]

CS, can you plot the same graph for the past 20 years, 5 years doesnt really say much

Why would I? Irrelevant to the original point. Try understanding the topic at hand.

As it pertains to this thread, Russia would be concerned with future business versus a country that no longer requires their products. His point holds.

You're more than welcome to go through the database yourself using the links he gave, to prove that China was a large Russian arms importer in the past.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Ahhh you meant past business. What is current is a completely different picture of course. I made this graph out of the SPIRI report a while ago.

No! i meant total worth of Arms contracts between China and Russia.

Read my reply to the original post i quoted.

As it pertains to this thread, Russia would be concerned with future business versus a country that no longer requires their products. His point holds.

Whose?

 

[CardSharp]

No! i meant total worth of Arms contracts between China and Russia.

Let me ask you this. From whom is Russia expecting more future business ? China or India?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Let me ask you this. From whom is Russia expecting more future business ? China or India?

Maybe China , i guess

China, Russia Vow to Quadruple Trade This Decade

Not much scope on the Indian side

India-Russia bilateral trade at USD 8.52 bn

 

[CardSharp]

Maybe China , i guess

China, Russia Vow to Quadruple Trade This Decade

Not much scope on the Indian side

India-Russia bilateral trade at USD 8.52 bn

Now I am not sure if we are really not talking about the same thing or if you are deliberately misunderstanding me

 

[Abhishek_]

Why would I? Irrelevant to the original point. Try understanding the topic at hand.

You're more than welcome to go through the database yourself using the links he gave, to prove that China was a large Russian arms importer in the past.

i guess i will have to spell it out for you. Is it really surprising that after decades of reverse-engineering and IP theft there is not much else for China to copy?
At this point our economic ability allows us to focus more on R&D, JVs and TOT which will eventually reduce our total reliance for foreign military systems.

(2000-2010 data from Sipri)