India planning nuclear first strikes against Pakistan (New York Times)

[maximuswarrior]

That (the bold and underlined part) is the reason there is no "kashmiri independence struggle" in J & K. what we have is just a radicalization and IS like terrorist play in the garb of freedom struggle. Keep dreaming, Kashmir is not going anywhere, even if that means none left to live there. This is not a freedom struggle, when you kill and force to leave a part of the native population just because they do not share your religion.

Sugar coating and downplaying the crisis in Kashmir won't get you anywhere. The conflict in occupied Kashmir has been going on for decades. It is not something which started yesterday. You can't brush it aside as "radicalization" or some minor conflict. India will keep bleeding unless it realizes that occupying people against their will won't have the desired outcome. It is not Pakistan that India should be afraid of. India should be afraid of its own militaristic approach in Kashmir. You cannot oppress people. India is today at a place where its own sane and influential opinion-makers are questioning the illogical policies. That speaks volume.

 

[footmarks]

Sugar coating and downplaying the crisis in Kashmir won't get you anywhere. The conflict in occupied Kashmir has been going on for decades. It is not something which started yesterday. You can't brush it aside as "radicalization" or some minor conflict. India will keep bleeding unless it realizes that occupying people against their will won't have the desired outcome. India is today at a place where its own sane and influential opinion-makers are questioning the illogical policies.

I don't see the "unoccupied kashmir" as an independent free country. this is the reality - Whatever part is with you, its yours for all practical purpose, whatever is with us, will remain with us. You try to snatch one single inch away, we both have to pay a huge price. And still, you wont get anything more (in fact might lose the parts that you have).

 

[Ahmad Sajjad Paracha]

But this shit is for real. Upper tracts of kashmir have become so radicalized that the protesters routinely display ISIS flags openly. Even Jammu and Leh regions are fed up now with this radicalization and endless bloodshed it leads to. They want to be separated from J & K as union territory of India.

In kashmir what u have is radicalization as if kashmir problem has started recently it is not radicalization but a genuine and old issue that's why other countries are offering mediation. "Kicking native countries" is not part of freedom struggle but it reflects frustration on attrocities being done in kashmir. India is spending huge budget in kashmir to resist the freedom struggle since its occupation over there but still they could not get over it.

But this shit is for real. Upper tracts of kashmir have become so radicalized that the protesters routinely display ISIS flags openly. Even Jammu and Leh regions are fed up now with this radicalization and endless bloodshed it leads to. They want to be separated from J & K as union territory of India.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I don't see the "unoccupied kashmir" as an independent free country. this is the reality - Whatever part is with you, its yours for all practical purpose, whatever is with us, will remain with us. You try to snatch one single inch away, we both have to pay a huge price. And still, you wont get anything more (in fact might lose the parts that you have).

You haven't understood much. Pakistan doesn't intend to snatch any part of Kashmir. Pakistan seeks a solution which demilitarizes the valley. Kashmiris have the right to visit on both sides.

We are not threatened by losing our part because unlike in your part we don't have a rebellion. The people of Azad Kashmir aren't up in arms against Pakistan. The people of Gilgit Baltistan will always side with Pakistan in any eventuality. You can't say the same for J&K.