India-Pakistan Dialogue: Is It Possible?

[Biplab Bijay]

[quote="Biplab Bijay, post: 6238980, member: 143403"]I have thought about it. Then I realized that it is because muslims forcefully converted minorities to islam as minorities have no rights in an Islamic country. The invaders invaded our land, killed our people, destroyed our places and forcefully converted our people.

How can you even talk about Invasion when muslims have invaded our land in past and killed our people ? Our hinduism is a religion which believes in goal, not in ways. Your religion is a one way valve. Your hindu friends can say man ythings about hinduism but still they are alive. But I can not say the same things about muslims as a small cartoon can convert these so called peaceful masses into terrorists.

The same mentality has made Bangladesh too.

if people forcefully converted you why dnt they convert back? why are still many people converting to islam not only in india but USA and europe. they are not on gun point or forced. Islam is dominating because it make more sense then ur religion. Yes muslims have made some mess but in general will u ever been able to convince any sane person to be converted to hinduism?[/quote]

Those peole who were converted forcefully they have died. And the new generation were fed with lies in their islamic countries. And also they fear the punishment for Apostasy ? Islam is dominating because it is just like a one way valve. Also it allows polygyny and believe in breeding like rabbits.

And in Hinduism there is no concept of conversion. When you start believe in karma, you automatically become one of us.

 

[Jzaib]

Terrorism in Kashmir ( supported by all muslims silently. Also funded by muslims)
Terrorism in India ( Supported by all muslims silent. Funded by all muslims)
Terrorism in the world ( Originated from Pakistan, some bangladeshi and some Indian muslims joined there)
Ethnic cleansing of kashmiri Pundits ( Done in the name of Islam and supported by all the muslims along with women and children)

if ethintic cleaning of pundits was the aim. Muslim ruled india for 800 years that could be done. Pundit suffer becuase indian armty invaded muslim land they didnt wanted to be part of indian. they freedom was taken away. that is why pundits suffered.

 

[Hurter]

Terrorism in Kashmir ( supported by all muslims silently. Also funded by muslims)
Terrorism in India ( Supported by all muslims silent. Funded by all muslims)
Terrorism in the world ( Originated from Pakistan, some bangladeshi and some Indian muslims joined there)
Ethnic cleansing of kashmiri Pundits ( Done in the name of Islam and supported by all the muslims along with women and children)

Fighting for your own land called a terrorism? Kashmir belongs to India right? And Indians have been fighting for their land for decades which means India has been doing terrorism in Kashmir since 1947. End of Story

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Well in not talking about india muslims. They already told how they felt in 1940's referendum for Pakistan. 7 million of them migrated and we accepted them with open arms.
how taught u history? why i only meet dumb indians on PDF. we took muslim majority areas for us to being a country . We if the country was divided in bases of population. 33.3 % of all land.

Who taught you 33% figure? Your Madarssas? Not wonder. Muslim population in Indian Union was never more than twenties max it was around 23-24%. Go an check your history book oh wait, this is what is told in your history book which was manipulated to suit Pakistan agenda. Now since you have internet, you can google it.

During Partition 23% of Indian land was given to Pakistan and Bangladesh where as only 17% of population was migrated to these places and mind it, it comprises not only of muslims, but other religion as well.

So over all, not all the muslim population moved out of Indian lands even though as per your claim of 97% of them voted for Paksitan but between Pakistan and Bangladesh they got the land as per the muslim population in Union during partition.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

if ethintic cleaning of pundits was the aim. Muslim ruled india for 800 years that could be done. Pundit suffer becuase indian armty invaded muslim land they didnt wanted to be part of indian. they freedom was taken away. that is why pundits suffered.

yes you are right. Ethnic cleansing was the main aim. During islamic rule it was difficult to convert a majority forcefully. But at least those invaders were able to convert 40% population into their ideology. It was because of Sikhs, Marathas and other strong communities, Hinduism was alive. But these invaders have converted everyone in other countries.

 

[Jzaib]

Those peole who were converted forcefully they have died. And the new generation were fed with lies in their islamic countries. And also they fear the punishment for Apostasy ? Islam is dominating because it is just like a one way valve. Also it allows polygyny and believe in breeding like rabbits.

And in Hinduism there is no concept of conversion. When you start believe in karma, you automatically become one of us.

as i said people in europe and USA is converting to islam . they are not forced. Same ways indians are still converting to islam.

as i said hindus themself is not have pride in their religion who can one can follow them . im not mocking but whole west thinks that they worship weird looking animals. I know that is true. But it is the impression all over the globe.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Jinnah wanted us to be free. We are free . The humilated muslims have to faces in india we are way better then that. Jinnah wanted us to help our muslims brothers around the world we did. We suffered economically but it was worth it. Yes we are facing fall out of two afgan wars since last 3 decades. But just look at our hearts we accepted more then million afghans who escaped the war zone. Yes that id brought militancy and caused us alot economically but Pakistans in general dnt regret it for a second.

Yes standing up for kashmir make is very hard for us. India is 6 times our size, very rich and powerfully both in terms on number and resources. But jinnah would have wanted us to stand by people of kashmir. If money and infrasturce is the thing how u consider a contry successful India and Pakistan both should have stayed under british rule.

well ever wondered why feudalism is still alive in pakistan which is the root cause of almost all the evils pakistani nation is facing today as these corrupt feudal/millitarry/beurocratik elite is ruling the pakistan since independence and even after so much mistakes of theres and so much hatred in minds of pakistanies towards them still they are able to do what they want and western nations still support them and they support every US, western dictat like devine dictats even if it means hurting short and long term goals of pakistan as a nation ... well bro talking is one thing but actions suggest siomething else its onli pakistani love for denail and conpiracy theories and false paranoia and extrenme hate for hindu india that is not letting them aknowledge truth when its reality hurting pakistani nation

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Fighting for your own land called a terrorism? Kashmir belongs to India right? And Indians have been fighting for their land for decades which means India has been doing terrorism in Kashmir since 1947. End of Story

If fighting for your land includes ethnic cleansing of a minority community , then yes it is terrorism. In India muslim population is increasing where as in Pakistan minority population is decreasing. That is why in Pakistan you can find many many armed muslim terrorists.

 

[halupridol]

Indo-Pak dialogue on Kashmir is possible.
but now is not the time.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

if people forcefully converted you why dnt they convert back? why are still many people converting to islam not only in india but USA and europe. they are not on gun point or forced. Islam is dominating because it make more sense then ur religion. Yes muslims have made some mess but in general will u ever been able to convince any sane person to be converted to hinduism?

By tendancy humans learn bad things quickly than good values. Thats the reason for Islam expansion.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

as i said people in europe and USA is converting to islam . they are not forced. Same ways indians are still converting to islam.

as i said hindus themself is not have pride in their religion who can one can follow them . im not mocking but whole west thinks that they worship weird looking animals. I know that is true. But it is the impression all over the globe.

As I said there is no way out of Islam so once you are in, you can not be out. And that is called as brainwashing. Indians are converting to Islam because of application of different tactics. And yes force conversion are also there. You have forgotten that news where a guy was arrested because he wanted to convert a girl forcefully. he even introduced himself as a hindu to that girl. And after her marriage, he showed his true colour. I think lying is allowed in Islam if you are using it to convert a non-muslim.

 

[WishLivePak]

Its not about religion but history and they have nowhere else to go except India and thus they are always welcome here. As for Kashmir, the problem came out with scramble for princely states just after independence where Pakistan was even interested to grab Hindu majority princely states without having any physical border with Pakistan forgetting that their nation is created on two nation theory, so its fine we too returned the same favour acceded Kashmir to India when we still have 170 million Muslims in India and Kashmiris just 3-4% of them.

But they didn't and you annexed it, like many other states. The state had muslim ruler.So if you can take hindu majority ruled by muslim man, why can't Pakistan take muslim majority sikh ruled state

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Leave those darkies in Gujurat where their parents, grandparents, great grandparents were born.

The pedophiles, inbreds and incests who follow a foreign ideology and believe in violence must be sent back to the land of pure or into the mass graves.

 

[Hurter]

If fighting for your land includes ethnic cleansing of a minority community , then yes it is terrorism. In India muslim population is increasing where as in Pakistan minority population is decreasing. That is why in Pakistan you can find many many armed muslim terrorists.

Those 'Armed Muslims' have been found with Black Water & Illuminati tattoos written on their bodies along with no circumcision. And in India you will find every second Hindu who is willing to do anything to Kill Indian Muslim whenever their leaders want to kill like your Modi did in 'Gujrat' and forcefully break Muslim's fast during Ramadan.

 

[WishLivePak]

As I said there is no way out of Islam so once you are in, you can not be out. And that is called as brainwashing. Indians are converting to Islam because of application of different tactics. And yes force conversion are also there. You have forgotten that news where a guy was arrested because he wanted to convert a girl forcefully. he even introduced himself as a hindu to that girl. And after her marriage, he showed his true colour. I think lying is allowed in Islam if you are using it to convert a non-muslim.

What the hell does religion have to do with this topic?
Forced conversions? No way out?