The debate is not whether you played a major part or a minor part. The only thing we know for sure if that you PLAYED your part -- just as you admitted!
I admitted? How could I do that, I don't work for any government agencies.
The role China played if at all is negligible, if you read anything released by the CIA or any other American or British source, it is the Pakistani scientist in UK that stole the secrets and came back and built it.
Forgot his name.
There were no mention of a Chinese role.
Did I touch a raw nerve there when I asked a question, how would China feel if India PLAYED a minor role in helping Vietnam/Philippines secure a Nuclear bomb for themselves? Mind you, I didn't advocate should do it, I only asked how you would feel!
If you had gone through the thread, you would have realized that I blamed US equally for "looking the other way" when Pakistanis smuggled "materials" right under their noses! We understand China and US both have been neck-deep in helping their ally secure the BOMB which has a delivery address nowhere else but to India.
You are blaming us for being an ally during the bomb, could we blame Russia for India's bomb? I mean they were your ally.
I don't care what you would do with the bomb, just that in today's environment, India would sooner nuke itself than to pass nuclear secrets to other states.
America is not joking when they said nuclear weapons secrets must be guarded.
Did you go through the link that I quoted earlier? Here it is, for you:
No bird will chirp, and no bells will ring in Mandirs in India : Sheikh Rasheed.
It is a mainstream Pakistani politician threatening India with what can only be described as Nuclear Holocaust. I wonder why he mentioned "temples" specifically! Mind you, he is not a nobody in Pakistani Politician. This guy regularly shares stage with their most popular Politcian Imran Khan. Anyway, he is not the first or the last Pakistani Politician to indulge in this kind of diatribe!
Don't you guys have that Sharma or something that 70 year old dude that keep talking bullcrap and isn't he one of the leaders of BJP or a former version of it.
Did he say he wants to cut Pakistan in half.
Then we got a thread a few days ago on how India needs to defeat China to take back territory from a leading member of the government, home minister or something.
If we are to go through all the crazy crap Indian government has said over the years, you would look just as insane, but Pakistan due to its proximity to Middle east and terrorism, gets more attention.
Of course you condemned the attacks! But then, you went ahead anyway to block the sanctions on those known terrorists. Mind you, the reports say you did that 3 times earlier in the past as well.
Now, I would love to see you point anything India might have done on the lines of Mumbai attacks!!
Pakistan and India have gone to war, and had border wars more times than I can count. I'm not saying India provoked it or deserved it, but it is what it is. It's not from nowhere.
As to UN resolutions, all great powers shield their allies, that's how it works. We also shield NK, you think we don't know what they are doing.
You think America don't know what Egypt, Lybia and any of their other crackpot allies are doing in the world.
That's how the game is played.
Don't hate the player hate the game.
There are trolls with the soul aim to troll India even with user-id's and their signatures! Again, what people on Internet do hardly bother nations. It was only in response to another member who wanted to know why we were confrontational!
You have been on this forum for sometime, as have I, I can't remember who fired the first shot, but again you are blaming us and not looking at yourself.
Nobody knows who started it, but at this point does it matter.
You provide Nuclear weapons to our enemy country, shoot down sanctions against their terrorists in UN that continue to harm us and then advocate that there is no bad blood? Are you for real?
By that logic, there's bad blood between China and Russia, China and US, China. However China and russia are good right now, and China and US are working together in many issues, including Ebola, environment, Middle East, Africa and other issues.
The nuclear thing is unconfirmed at best, and the other things are just part of the great game. It is what it is.
Yeah, right!! Genius, that is exactly why we continue to have trade worth $100B with you (the trade where you continue to run surpluses).
But you turned a blind eye on the whole trade that takes between India and China despite the hostilities -- just to make your point sound better?
Even Indian authors admitted India was reluctant on more Chinese involvement in India and South Asia in general, which reduced investment from 100 billion to 20 billion.
This is especially true to the link from China through Myanmar and Bangladesh to India. That was a major part of the plan but due to Indian "security" issues it was scrapped and we never brought it on the table.
As to surplus, this isn't good anymore for us, the Surplus is too large for us, and China has way less red tape than India, the only reason India isn't running a surplus is because you can't. A lot of lower income countries are starting to run surpluses or close to now.
The trade between China and India is important, but then that's in spite of not because of. If you had given us access and a fair shot, which we would reciprocate if not already, we have way more investment in India.
So, now you are you talking about Indians being so poor? Get off your high horse!! Although you have achieved a lot in the last couple of decades, you are not there YET!! Let's talk about it when you get THERE!!
We are far closer to being there than not being there. Besides, this isn't about india being poor, it's about you guys fussing over this "security" crap, ok if you want you can build it yourself and help everyone but you are not doing anything yourself either, so now you are just in everyone's way.
, how about we award Hafeez Saeed the same title...LMAO
