India lobbying hard to give a tactical advantage to the Taliban.

[Butchcassidy]

Screw that.
I can't wait to see the look on them Indian's faces when we win this war without their worthless Apaches and Mr. Ghani comes shaking our hands for development deals and anti-Taliban ops.
We have the brains and the brawn, whereas India has both in limited amount, except that they have more cash in the bag than us!

Ghani will give u nothing if he doesn't get anything in return. Ab zara zameen pe aa jao

 

[Gauss]

India is like an opponent whos area of interest lies below the belt. We shouldve learned by now that dealing with such an adversary requires brains more than brawn.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I love how everyone in Pak goes on about the Mukti Bahini. Now that B'desh is independent,.

because of your help and sabotage which you are proud of
and in the same breath you cry foul when Kashmiri militants attack your forces in Kashmir? you are indirectly giving credence to people like Hafiz Saeed who has come out of nowhere and justifies attacking India through gorilla warfare.

 

[farhan_9909]

India will do anything to keep Pakistan unstable now be it through the talibs

 

[Kompromat]

Not yet. Still under R&D process, but major steps have been taken. It is reported that it'll have a range of 24 km. 3 times the range of Longbow radar of AH-64E which has a range of 8 kms for MWR. It'll be mass produced with the T-129B variant.

Can it help in detecting human size targets?

 

[Zarvan]

Indian 'South Block' has been running with cash bags to US Congressmen and defense pundits for years in order to block the sale of Attack Helicopters to Pakistan.

Since 2002 Pakistan has been requesting the US for the sale of AH-64D Apache Longbow or AH-1Z Viper as a primary requirement. Pakistan's old AH-1F/S Cobras are handicapped. Their ability to detect and kill Taliban insurgents at night is next to nothing. With dumb rockets and a gun with no credible night ops capabilities it can only fulfill a limited numbers of roles.

Pakistani military officials say that Indians have lobbied so hard to block the sales of these copters that they added provisions in their own Apache purchase that Pakistan won't be sold this capability even when its direly needed in the full knowledge of CENTCOM and Pentagon. The Indians ditched Mi-28E and angered Russia for keeping AH-64D or AH-1Z away from being sold to Pakistan.

Pakistani officials are of the opinion that the insurgents attack checkposts at night and Cobras can't operate effectively at night. Microwave milimeter radar, motion sensor integrated, thermal, infrared electro optical targeting turrets along with integrated avionics, Datalink and HMS are the core requirements for effectively tracking and killing the Taliban at night and day.

Pakistani experts believe that India is lobbying so hard to give Taliban, which is its proxy a tactical advantage over the Pakistani forces. The US has refused to sell both Apache and Zulu due to Indian lobby. They are even trying to block the sale of US made Turboshaft engines to Turkey, which wants to sell its T-129 ATAK gunship to Pakistan which has similar capabilities to AH-1Z and Apache.

Pakistan needs to make it clear if the US is going to clear those gunships or engines for Turkish gunships. If the US wants to toe the Indian line and give the animals who massacre our kids a tactical advantage, we should opt for Mi-28NE from Russia and cease all counter terrorism cooperation with the Pentagon and Langley.

Pakistan need to tell USA either they give us weapons or forget any corporation on Afghanistan from us we need 50 zulu cobras at least

 

[jaunty]

Indian military officials say that India is not lobbying to give the Taliban a tactical advantage. Indian experts believe that to be true.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Considering the pak economy they can afford AH 64D sovunirs to be placed in drawing room of nawaz sharif and can a mi35 withstand the impact of sterla?

So much nonsense, half truths and blatant lies within one article.


1)IF India was lobbying to prevent an Apache sale to Pakistan it wouldn't be the to give any sort of edge to the Taliban but to prevent these advanced weapons posing a threat to India's conventional military supremacy- nothing more. Let's not live in a make believe world- most of Pakistan's arms purchases and weaponry are aimed at INDIA and NOT at the Taliban. (arguably something like the Super Tucano is FAR more effective in COIN ops but why has the PAF not acquired anything like this but are buying more F-16s??)

But if India has somehow included a clause in their AH-64E buy that this helo won't be sold to Pakistan (I doubt it)- good for them! This is the kind of games India needs to start playing.

2)The notion that the Apache in Pakistani service would somehow be the turning point in the "war" against them is as laughable as the notion that it is the only helo out there with such capabilities. The Mi-28 also has Microwave milimeter radar, motion sensor integrated, thermal, infrared electro optical targeting turrets along with integrated avionics, datalink and HMS. Why hasn't Pakistan purchased any of these? Oh that's right, you can't afford it.


3) The T-129 doesn't have the same capabilities as the T-129 (no Microwave milimeter radar) so that is patently false.


Stop painting Pakistan as some hapless victim being bullied by evil India, it is neither true nor can it be doing your national identity any good. Boo hoo you weren't given the latest generation of American gunships (most likely on aid), poor you. Stop trying to spin this as some evil Indian plot and then to take it one step further and make out this is India handing some sort of advantage to the Taliban,please...........

i can see nothing but indian who is suggesting Pakistan what to buy ..
they are truly behaving like a neech even raizing questions how can they even afford..
its cuz we dont have 600 million poor people we cud make and afford anything once we decided..
just stop putting your nose in every Pakistani matter...

 

[airmarshal]

Pakistan needs to make it clear if the US is going to clear those gunships or engines for Turkish gunships. If the US wants to toe the Indian line and give the animals who massacre our kids a tactical advantage, we should opt for Mi-28NE from Russia and cease all counter terrorism cooperation with the Pentagon and Langley.

Argument makes sense but then Pakistan too has leverage and I wonder why it has not been used effectively.

When countries like Egypt can get Apaches, who dont have immediate need, why cant Pakistan, I wonder.

Pakistan 'gave China access' to downed US helicopter | World news | The Guardian

Could be. but then there was no agreement Pakistan couldnt share technology of s downed helicopter.

Do Indians have something called a brain? It does not hurt if you use it some time.

 

[zip]

Sovereignty is something which cannot be compromised at any cost. I hope you understand. But unfortunately our corrupt politicians have done that which needs to be stopped now.

Sovereignity should not be compromised I agree ..But its up to you to decide who is real threat for your sovereignity ..These terrorists or drone killing these terrorists ?? You have compromised with your sovereignity when you failed reign in extremists who are attacking other sovereign states ..You cant protect mad dogs attacking others in the name of sovereignity ..thats my point

 

[Screambowl]

Bullshit theory with no actual evidence.


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what about babur CM?

 

[tarrar]

India is always known for lobbying against Pakistan, sadly we have corrupt & sold out politicians who don't dare speak against India.

 

[Screambowl]

India will do anything to keep Pakistan unstable now be it through the talibs

there are lots of means to make a country unstable. Not necessary through Taliban.

 

[Anees]

if they dont want to sell it , why india to be blamed ...

report with No Sources also ....

 

[ito]

Do Indians have something called a brain? It does not hurt if you use it some time.

it is obvious, india has brains that is why it is lobbing against weapons for pak and it would continue doing it. why would india wants lethal weapons in its enemy's hand? it seems you should start using your brains