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domain-b.com : Indian Navy's follow-on submarine order to carry BrahMos cruise missiles

Indian Navy's follow-on submarine order to carry BrahMos cruise missiles news

20 August 2008

Indian Navy's next order for seven submarines, a follow-on order to the six French-designed Scorpenes already under various stages of construction at French and Indian shipyards, will all be armed with the sub-surface version of the Indo-Russian supersonic BrahMos cruise missile. This was stated by Alexander Dergachev, chairman of board of directors of the BrahMos Aerospace joint-venture.
Expressing the hope that the submarine order would be placed soon enough Dergachev said,
''The missiles will be made for submarines of the Indian Navy. The nearest order is seven submarines. We do not know yet when exactly it is going to happen. I hope soon.''

Dergachev was speaking at a press conference called to highlight the completion of ten years of the highly successful Indo-Russian BrahMos Aerospace joint venture. He also said that Russia and other countries of the world would participate in the tender, which would stipulate carriage of the BrahMos cruise missile as part of the submarine's armament.

Dr Sivathanu Pillai, chief executive of the joint venture, stated that Indian armed forces have already placed a $2 billion order for the missiles. The BrahMos cruise missile is already available in different land-to-land, sea-to-land and sea-to-sea versions.
A submarine launched and an air-to-surface version are ready for testing but await suitable platforms for carrying out the tests. While the air force is carrying out suitable modifications on Su-30MKI fighters to carry the missile, the Indian Navy has not indicated when it would make a modified submarine available for testing the sub-surface version.

BrahMos Aerospace was established in 1998 to design, develop, produce and market a unique supersonic cruise missile.Operating at a speed of Mach 2.8, it is the world's only supersonic cruise missile. While the propulsion is based on the Russian Yakhont missile, the guidance system has been developed by BrahMos Aerospace.

Between late 2004 and early 2008, the missile has undergone several tests from variety of platforms including a land based test at India's Pokhran firing range, where the missile performed the S- maneuver at Mach 2.8 for the Indian Army.

The missile has also been tested as a sea-to-land version recently.

The joint venture involves India's Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Russia's NPO Mashinostroeyenia.
 
so the number is 7 and not 6 right.............do u have the list of possible competitors.the few i know are amur,u-212/214,scorpene,s-80,a-26.
 
so the number is 7 and not 6 right.............do u have the list of possible competitors.the few i know are amur,u-212/214,scorpene,s-80,a-26.

you have posted almost all but no U212 is not in offering only U 214 is in offering. I don't think scorpene is in for this may be the new desin merlin may be on offer.

But now one thing is sure that the second line of sub must have VLS tubes.
 
you have posted almost all but no U212 is not in offering only U 214 is in offering. I don't think scorpene is in for this may be the new desin merlin may be on offer.

But now one thing is sure that the second line of sub must have VLS tubes.
thanks for the correction mate,but the a-26 is a small sub so how can it accomodate vls.....dcn specified that contesting subs would larger than scorpene but they never said that it was the marlin.
 
thanks for the correction mate,but the a-26 is a small sub so how can it accomodate vls.....dcn specified that contesting subs would larger than scorpene but they never said that it was the marlin.

yeah your point is correct, but we will come to know shortly who are in race for it. Seems the RFP is right on track.
 
India, Russia plan serial production of BrahMos missiles - www.ddinews.com

India and Russia plan to launch the serial production of the jointly developed aerial version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles after the completion of field trials next year.


"We are planning to complete the tests of cruise missiles for Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters and are planning to launch their simultaneous serial production at our facilities in India and Russia," CEO of Indo-Russian JV Sivathanu Pillai said.

Talking to reporters on the sidelines of Moscow International Arms Show in Moscow Pillai said the filed trials of the cruise missile will be completed next year, which could be fitted on a whole range of aerial weapon platforms.

BrahMos Aerospace, pursuing aggressive export strategy, has put up an impressive display of its naval and land versions of the cruise missile three times faster than the much-hyped US Tomahawk cruise missile and is nine times more destructive due to massive kinetic energy.

New Delhi-based BrahMos Aerospace JV between DRDO and Russian NPO Mashinostroyenia is already supplying naval and land versions of the BrahMos cruise missiles to the Indian Navy and Army.

India and Russia also currently working on the submarine launched land attack version of BrahMos capable of enemy targets in the coastal areas.
 
Submarine-launched version of BrahMos missile to be tested in India at year-end news

22 August 2008

Moscow: The Indo-Russian BrahMos multi-role supersonic cruise missile is in full production with deliveries being made to Indian Navy and Army. A complete battery of land-based missiles is also in service with the Army, BrahMos Aerospace chief executive, Dr Sivathanu Pillai said here.

Speaking at the MSVS-2008 show in Moscow, he said that the Indo-Russian joint venture is looking at producing 40-50 missiles annually in order to meet Indian requirements. This will be increased to handle export orders.

The Mach 2.8 supersonic, ramjet-powered BrahMos may be exported in 2009. "2009 should be the year" for announcing export orders, Dr Pillai said.

He also said that a major production contract had just been signed.

Dr Pillai also said that warplane designer and manufacturer Sukhoi's workload on other projects, such as the Su-35 and PAK-FA fifth generation fighter has delayed work on creating a platform for the air launched version of the BrahMos. The "critical path" for tests of the air launched version of the BrahMos, is the modification of a Su-30MKI fighter as a test platform.


Sukhoi and the Indian Air Force have decided on a single-missile configuration for the Su-30MKI, rather than a two-or three-missile version. For this, the aircraft needs a new pylon as well as structural strengthening and a modified fire-control system to handle the new missile.

Also under consideration is an air launched version for the Indian Navy's Tu-142 maritime patrol aircraft, which may be modified to carry 6-8 missiles. The dilemma is whether the impending retirement of these aircraft from active service makes their modification worth the effort.

As for a submarine-launched version, the missile has already been launched from a static, underwater test stand in Russia and underwater tests in India will be carried out at the end of the year. The BrahMos's Russian precursor, the 3M55/P-800 Oniks, was designed for submarine launch.
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/general/20080822_BrahMos.html
may be they are trying to make it to fit on pak-fa also.
 
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single BrahMos on the center pylon. I think that weighs almost 3 tons. MKI can carry up to 8 tons of missiles and bombs so still MKI can have sufficient payload for self defense.
That makes a really good combination.

Correct me if I am wrong about the missile weight.
 
single BrahMos on the center pylon. I think that weighs almost 3 tons. MKI can carry up to 8 tons of missiles and bombs so still MKI can have sufficient payload for self defense.
That makes a really good combination.

Correct me if I am wrong about the missile weight.
the land and sea variants weigh 3ton but air launched weigh less as it will have a smaller booster because the aircraft already provides some kinetic energy to it but how much lighter ,i dont know but it also extra fins for stabilization when dropped from the aircraft.
 
Now, missiles at ‘high-risk’ spots - Express India

Now, missiles at ‘high-risk’ spots
Mohit Sharma
Posted online: Sunday , August 24, 2008 at 01:27:25

New Delhi, August 23 Perceived threat at important installations leads Defence ministry to set up anti-aircraft missiles
Anticipating air threats in the Capital, security agencies have shortlisted seven important installations to deploy anti-aircraft missiles to raise the air defence.

According to a circular issued by a joint director of the Intelligence Bureau to the Ministry of Home Affairs on June 24 — Newsline has a copy — the strategic targets in which the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has recommended deployment of anti-aircraft weapons are: Safdarjung Airport, Shankar Vihar, Air Force Auditorium, Akash Officers Mess, Rashtrapati Bhawan, Vayu Bhawan, and Air Force Station-Race Course.
The Ministry of Home Affairs had asked the Defence ministry to suggest measures to counter such threats in a security-related meeting held last year. In reply, the Defence ministry had recommended deployment of ground-based air defence weapons at these VVIP installations in the Capital. For this, security agencies have now requested the Home ministry to finalise the exact location of installation.

The circular says, “Since the deployment have a bearing on VVIP security, I request you to depute a suitable officer for the task so that recce of the place of deployment is finalised at the earliest.”

Sources said intelligence agencies have sought adequate space at these locations to deploy anti-aircraft missiles. “Installing anti-aircraft missiles to counter air threat needs large space,” a source said. “We have asked the Home ministry to finalise it as soon as possible.”

According to the intelligence source, anti-aircraft guns are already in place at strategic spots in the National Capital Region and anti-aircraft missiles, with their long range and accuracy, are meant to beef up security further. “Anti-aircraft missiles are capable of countering every kind of air threat,” the source said.

On January 22, 2007, the committee of secretaries under the chairmanship of Cabinet Secretary had held a meeting to review the Capital’s preparedness against anticipated threats from air routes on strategic targets. According to the circular, the MHA had suggested to the Defence ministry that deployment of such weapons should be done in consultation with concerned security agencies, and that the MoD has now intimidated that the weapon systems are ready for deployment.

Sitanshu Kar, Principal Spokesperson and Additional Director General (Media & Communications) of Ministry of Defence, said: “I am not aware of any such letter at this point of time. However, if there is something like that, concerned authorities must be taking steps.”

Kar said such steps to strengthen security are taken to make additional installations at VVIP targets. But Kar did not comment on the present status of deployment of weapons at the recommended locations.

Sources said recommendations were sought from the MoD following intelligence inputs that important installations could face threat from air. “The installations recommended cover wide range of VVIP areas,” sources said. “These include places of utmost importance: like the Delhi Cantonment area, Race Course Road, and the Parliament House. These are all covered in the recommendations.”

Coming soon: missiles at...
Safdarjung Airport
Shankar Vihar
Air Force Auditorium
Akash Officers Mess
Rashtrapati Bhawan
Vayu Bhawan
Air Force Station, Race Course
 
India poised to make a big stride - Newindpress.com

India poised to make a big stride
Tuesday August 26 2008 01:29 IST

THRISSUR: India is poised to make big stride in missile technology in the coming years, said Project Director, Agni -II of the Defence Research and Development Organisation, Ms Tessy Thomas.

She said this while a talk on `Research Activities and Scope for Engineers in DRDO’ as part of the golden jubilee lecture series at the Government Engineering College here on Monday, Tessy Thomas said that the country is at par with developed nations in missile technology.

She said that development of technology is the challenge faced by the country in the area of research related to missile.

She said that in many areas, like the computer technology, missile technology is exchanged among different countries. However, in certain specific areas, the research and development work done by individual nations are not shared.

She said that in many such specific areas India has been successful in achieving better technologies than those available in developed nations.

Later talking to reporters, she said that the DRDO might be able to extend co-operation with the research centre proposed to be set up by the Government Engineering College here to mark the golden jubilee of the institution.

She said that the co-operation could be carried out by passing over certain research work of the DRDO to the Centre or through deputation of students to the DRDO for carrying out research.

Tessy Thomas,hailing from Alapuzha, was a student of 1980- 85 batch of the college with specialisation in radar system. Later, she had done M Tech from the Institute of Armament Technology, Pune.

She joined DRDO in 1988 as the associate director of Agni l, 2 and 3 series. In 2001, she was awarded the Agni Excellence Award.

She is the first women director and the first malayali to be the part the Agni missile project.
 
This seems to be a serious problem now:

DRDO to seek help from foreign experts to retain talent<?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> - www.ddinews.com

With the attrition rate reaching alarming levels, India's premier defence research organisation DRDO will now rope in foreign experts to devise ways to retain top scientists engaged in strategic programmes.


DRDO's Recruitment and Assessment Centre(RAC), responsible for recruiting scientists, has invited human resource experts from the US, Britain, Germany, Australia and Israel to understand how these countries are managing to retain bright talents for their scientific programmes.



The initiative comes at a time when many strategic and futuristic programmes of Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) are getting delayed because of manpower

crunch and failure of the organisation to attract top brains.



"High rate of attrition is a serious problem affecting our strategic programmes and that is why we have invited the foreign experts to guide us in attracting and retaining top talents," Director of RAC, Arun Kumar told a news agency.



DRDO recruits about 1,000 scientists every year across all its 52 laboratories and the high attrition rate, which is around eight per cent, has become a key factor affecting its

growth.



The urgency is reflected from RAC's move to organise a four-day workshop beginning 17th September, probably first type of such workshop in India, where foreign experts as well as HR managers from Infosys, Wipro, Tata, ISRO, CSIR and Department of Atomic Energy will share their experience with DRDO on various aspects of man-power management.



"These developed countries are known for their successful scientific and strategic programmes and we hope their inputs will help us in developing a wide array of tools to stem the flow of scientists to greener pastures," Kumar said.



"We will have to develop innovative ways to retain our talent as we are facing a steady exodus of scientists which is affecting various programmes," Kumar said, adding the flight is taking place from all the DRDO laboratories across the

country.



The government has approved a 21 per cent hike in salaries of defence employees on the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission this month.



However, the general feelings in the DRDO community is that the hike was too little and it will not help stem the exodus.



"The Sixth Pay Commission has offered something. But it is not upto our satisfaction," a source in DRDO said.



Admitting that the high attrition rate was a major concern, DRDO chief M Natarajan recently mooted the idea of allowing the scientists to work for a specific period of time in private sector.



Kumar, who made significant contributions in developing missile systems, said DRDO has also failed to attract top brains from IITs, IIMs and other premier institutions and

in-depth discussions on how to attract young talents to DRDO will take place in the workshop.



"The workshop on 'Emerging Frameworks and Issues for Science and Technology Recruitment' is designed to cover several important issues of pre-recruitment and post recruitment processes which go beyond general methodologies of selection processes," Kumar said.



Asked whether it is seeking help from human resource experts from NASA, Kumar said those responsible for recruiting talents for the American space agency have been invited.



Kumar said Michael A McDanniel from Virginia Commonwealth University in US, Brett Myors from Australia's Gravatt university and many other experts from Israel and the UK have confirmed their participation.



Kumar said DRDO was open to forging collaboration with research institutions of these countries to reshape the framework of recruitment processes for Indian research organisations.



RAC, which was set up on 23rd July 1985, undertakes various recruitment programmes to induct scientists in variety of scientific and engineering disciplines relevant to DRDO laboratories.



In order to commemorate its role in critical defence technologies for last five decades and turning India into a self-reliant nation, DRDO is observing the year 2008 as its

golden jubilee year.
 
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