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India is quietly preparing to end Chinese businesses'
free run here
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With India and China locked in their most serious military face-off in three decades, the effort to restrict Chinese business has gathered more support


NEW DELHI: India is tightening the rules for businesses entering its power transmission sector and making stringent checks on both power and telecoms equipment for malware — moves that government and industry officials say aim to check China's advance into sensitive sectors.

Chinese firms such as Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics, Shanghai Electric and Sifang Automation either supply equipment or manage power distribution networks in 18 cities in India.

Local firms have long lobbied against Chinese involvement in the power sector, raising security concerns and saying they get no reciprocal access to Chinese markets.

With India and China locked in their most serious military face-off in three decades, the effort to restrict Chinese business has gathered more support from within the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, worried about the possibility of a cyber attack.

The Indian government is considering a report prepared by the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) that sets new conditions for firms bidding for power transmission contracts, tipping the scales in favour of local companies.

According to an official involved in drafting the report, who asked not to be named, it says companies looking to invest in India should have been operating there for at least 10 years, have Indian citizens as top executives, and employees of the foreign firm should have lived in India for a certain period, the official said.

Those companies have to detail where they procure the raw materials for transmission systems, and will be barred from further operations in India if their materials contain malware.

Though the report makes no direct reference to China, the official said the recommendations are intended to deter China from making further headway in India, because of the security risks.

CEA Chairman R.K. Verma said the possibility of a crippling cyber attack on India's power systems was a key consideration while drafting the policy. "Cyber attacks are a challenge," he told Reuters.

A representative of a Chinese enterprise engaged in exporting electric power equipment in India told China's state-run Global Times that India's industry has long tried to block foreign competition under the garb of safety issues.

"Now, as Sino-Indian relations are getting intense, the old tune is on again. But in fact, it is unrealistic to completely ban China and India power investment cooperation. India will pay a huge price for this," the paper said.

Shanghai Electric, Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics and state-run China Southern Power Grid Co Ltd, all involved in India or trying to enter, did not immediately respond to emails seeking comment on the proposed Indian investment rules.

TELECOMS

The Indian government is moving simultaneously on the telecoms sector, demanding higher security standards in an area dominated by Chinese makers of equipment and smartphones.

In a letter reviewed by Reuters, the ministry of electronics and information technology has asked 21 smartphone makers, most of them Chinese, to provide details about the "safety and security practices, architecture frameworks, guidelines, standards, etc followed in your product/services in the country."

Chinese vendors such as Xiaomi, Lenovo, Oppo, Vivo and Gionee together account for over half of India's $10 billion smartphone market. The letter, dated Aug. 12, was also sent to Apple, Samsung Electronics and local maker Micromax, a ministry source said.

India has also privately raised objections to Chinese firm Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical Group's proposed $1.3 billion takeover of Indian drugmaker Gland Pharma, it emerged last month.

"There's a lot of resentment against China for meddling in our internal affairs, supporting Pakistan's cross-border terrorism, and, on the other hand, posing a huge loss to our trade and industry each year," said Satish Kumar, national president of the Swadesh Jagran Manch, a right-wing nationalist group with ties to Modi's ruling party.

The group has this year run a campaign asking Indians not to buy Chinese goods to protect local industry and reset a trade deficit of more than $51 billion.

CHEAP GOODS

India has used Chinese equipment for power generation and distribution as it looks to provide affordable electricity to an estimated 250 million people who are off the grid.

China Southern Power Grid, in association with CLP India Pvt Ltd, is among Chinese firms bidding for power transmission lines, Power Minister Piyush Goyal told Parliament this month.

Sunil Misra, director-general of the Indian Electrical and Electronics Manufacturers' Association, said the new rules for power transmission would help local industry and were in line with the limited access China gives to foreigners in its market.

Indian firms engaged in the power sector include Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd, Crompton Greaves Consumer Electricals Ltd and Larsen & Toubro Ltd.

Security agencies have implemented a series of protocols and checks for Chinese equipment coming into the power sector, said another person involved in drafting the CEA report.

"This is recent and happening quietly," he said.
 

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Chinese products might be cost effective but we should protect our local industries at any cost.
 
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ee-run-here/articleshow/60105497.cms?from=mdr
India is quietly preparing to end Chinese businesses'
free run here
india-is-quietly-preparing-to-end-chinese-businesses-free-run-here.jpg


With India and China locked in their most serious military face-off in three decades, the effort to restrict Chinese business has gathered more support


NEW DELHI: India is tightening the rules for businesses entering its power transmission sector and making stringent checks on both power and telecoms equipment for malware — moves that government and industry officials say aim to check China's advance into sensitive sectors.

Chinese firms such as Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics, Shanghai Electric and Sifang Automation either supply equipment or manage power distribution networks in 18 cities in India.

Local firms have long lobbied against Chinese involvement in the power sector, raising security concerns and saying they get no reciprocal access to Chinese markets.

With India and China locked in their most serious military face-off in three decades, the effort to restrict Chinese business has gathered more support from within the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, worried about the possibility of a cyber attack.

The Indian government is considering a report prepared by the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) that sets new conditions for firms bidding for power transmission contracts, tipping the scales in favour of local companies.

According to an official involved in drafting the report, who asked not to be named, it says companies looking to invest in India should have been operating there for at least 10 years, have Indian citizens as top executives, and employees of the foreign firm should have lived in India for a certain period, the official said.

Those companies have to detail where they procure the raw materials for transmission systems, and will be barred from further operations in India if their materials contain malware.

Though the report makes no direct reference to China, the official said the recommendations are intended to deter China from making further headway in India, because of the security risks.

CEA Chairman R.K. Verma said the possibility of a crippling cyber attack on India's power systems was a key consideration while drafting the policy. "Cyber attacks are a challenge," he told Reuters.

A representative of a Chinese enterprise engaged in exporting electric power equipment in India told China's state-run Global Times that India's industry has long tried to block foreign competition under the garb of safety issues.

"Now, as Sino-Indian relations are getting intense, the old tune is on again. But in fact, it is unrealistic to completely ban China and India power investment cooperation. India will pay a huge price for this," the paper said.

Shanghai Electric, Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics and state-run China Southern Power Grid Co Ltd, all involved in India or trying to enter, did not immediately respond to emails seeking comment on the proposed Indian investment rules.

TELECOMS

The Indian government is moving simultaneously on the telecoms sector, demanding higher security standards in an area dominated by Chinese makers of equipment and smartphones.

In a letter reviewed by Reuters, the ministry of electronics and information technology has asked 21 smartphone makers, most of them Chinese, to provide details about the "safety and security practices, architecture frameworks, guidelines, standards, etc followed in your product/services in the country."

Chinese vendors such as Xiaomi, Lenovo, Oppo, Vivo and Gionee together account for over half of India's $10 billion smartphone market. The letter, dated Aug. 12, was also sent to Apple, Samsung Electronics and local maker Micromax, a ministry source said.

India has also privately raised objections to Chinese firm Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical Group's proposed $1.3 billion takeover of Indian drugmaker Gland Pharma, it emerged last month.

"There's a lot of resentment against China for meddling in our internal affairs, supporting Pakistan's cross-border terrorism, and, on the other hand, posing a huge loss to our trade and industry each year," said Satish Kumar, national president of the Swadesh Jagran Manch, a right-wing nationalist group with ties to Modi's ruling party.

The group has this year run a campaign asking Indians not to buy Chinese goods to protect local industry and reset a trade deficit of more than $51 billion.

CHEAP GOODS

India has used Chinese equipment for power generation and distribution as it looks to provide affordable electricity to an estimated 250 million people who are off the grid.

China Southern Power Grid, in association with CLP India Pvt Ltd, is among Chinese firms bidding for power transmission lines, Power Minister Piyush Goyal told Parliament this month.

Sunil Misra, director-general of the Indian Electrical and Electronics Manufacturers' Association, said the new rules for power transmission would help local industry and were in line with the limited access China gives to foreigners in its market.

Indian firms engaged in the power sector include Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd, Crompton Greaves Consumer Electricals Ltd and Larsen & Toubro Ltd.

Security agencies have implemented a series of protocols and checks for Chinese equipment coming into the power sector, said another person involved in drafting the CEA report.

"This is recent and happening quietly," he said.

it is time the chinese learnt that actions have consequences
 
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I don't know whether this is prudent. Yes local industries need to be protected, and yes India should be very care full that there is no Chinese cyber attack. But India should welcome genuine investments that create jobs even it is from China. Lets us keep trade and politics different.
 
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Yes. Indians need to protect their open defecation culture against Chinese sanitation products.
and this is for you and your PLA . mind it , this time same reaction from Bharat .

he is mr ravi from Bharat, a tight slap on the face of puny chinese so called giant guy giving warnings
 
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and this is for you and your PLA . mind it , this time same reaction from Bharat .

he is mr ravi from Bharat, a tight slap on the face of puny chinese so called giant guy giving warnings
Yes it is unpleasant when a child in emergency has to do it in public even though they did not soil the place as the child urine into a plastic.
In India, 600+ million children and ADULTS do it.
Its so common so nobody is surprised and nobody bothers to make a fuss about it.
Indians just do it onto public space, you don't see them using a plastic bag to collect so as not to soil public spaces.
Its not just urine, its SHIT and its not a few who had to do it in an emergency,
its a mind boggling 600 MILLION Indians DAILY.
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I don't know whether this is prudent. Yes local industries need to be protected, and yes India should be very care full that there is no Chinese cyber attack. But India should welcome genuine investments that create jobs even it is from China. Lets us keep trade and politics different.

It's very prudent. India should slap tariffs on and launch a trade war against China.
 
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According to an official involved in drafting the report, who asked not to be named, it says companies looking to invest in India should have been operating there for at least 10 years, have Indian citizens as top executives, and employees of the foreign firm should have lived in India for a certain period, the official said.

Those companies have to detail where they procure the raw materials for transmission systems, and will be barred from further operations in India if their materials contain malware.

This has nothing to do with China this is an Indian way of saying gives us the money and your suppliers plus source code and we will do the rest, I can see companies lining up to invest in this highly lucrative scheme.

Chinese firms such as Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics, Shanghai Electric and Sifang Automation either supply equipment or manage power distribution networks in 18 cities in India.

oh, I get it now Chinese investments are only bad if they are taking place in Pakistan, but if the same companies are investing in Indian Infrastructure plus they are good
 
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This has nothing to do with China this is an Indian way of saying gives us the money and your suppliers plus source code and we will do the rest, I can see companies lining up to invest in this highly lucrative scheme.



oh, I get it now Chinese investments are only bad if they are taking place in Pakistan, but if the same companies are investing in Indian Infrastructure plus they are good

Indian customers pays for the Chinese equipment without any loans from China or the supplier.
When the supplier allows you to purchase on credit you have to do due diligence. Otherwise you purchase things you do not need.

that is a good example of what will happen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magampura_Mahinda_Rajapaksa_Port
 
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Yes it is unpleasant when a child in emergency has to do it in public even though they did not soil the place as the child urine into a plastic.
In India, 600+ million children and ADULTS do it.
Its so common so nobody is surprised and nobody bothers to make a fuss about it.
Indians just do it onto public space, you don't see them using a plastic bag to collect so as not to soil public spaces.
Its not just urine, its SHIT and its not a few who had to do it in an emergency,
its a mind boggling 600 MILLION Indians DAILY.
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i can post thousand more videos of chinese pissing and poo on the streets , just need to ask my friends in china to shoot few videos for me ,. you want to s e e real china ?????????????????? 微信 扣扣 uc 我都有, 还有1500 + 朋友们 。
 
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