India is NOT a democracy

[Titanium]

I once saw a RSS shaka.. next to the ground where I used to play.. they are mostly elderly gentleman who turn to religion after their manhood is wasted.. in their knickers, nehru cap, white shirt and a danda.. hardly the guys who can kill a fly and much less muslims.. looking at thier physical state...

though what goes on in their mind is clearer to you than most Indians or they themselves...

What goes in their mind and why they need this sort of training?

Should I have to say anything? They say a picture speaks thousnad words. I don't need to tell why much lies and deception these individuals are capable of!!

 

[aryan2007]

but you guys are also criminally neglegent of crimes against the muslims and other minorities in that regard. Just because the world has not caught onto, or does not want to believe it, it doesnot mean it is not there. Years ago, who would have thought that Modi would see condemnation at this scale from those in power.

This doesnot make the democracy sham.. it is the failure of the state govt and specifically the state executive.. courts have rapped them up..

a case in example Bradford Race riots did not make UK a sham democracy etc..

 

[aryan2007]

What goes in their mind and why they need this sort of training?

Dude this is not democracy's failure but the failure of the executive of the State govt.. simple..

 

[Titanium]

Dude this is not democracy's failure but the failure of the executive of the State govt.. simple..[/QUOTE]

Who are you trying to fool here? The siks has swords, so Brahmins should also get training? Sikhs keep coz they are permitted for thair KKKs, why are the Brahmins need swords........??



What happened to your apoplogitic statement ...you lier:
[QUOTE]they are mostly elderly gentleman who turn to religion after their manhood is wasted.. in their knickers, nehru cap, white shirt and a danda.. hardly the guys who can kill a fly and much less muslims.. l[/QUOTE]

 

[aryan2007]

Who are you trying to fool here? The siks has swords, so Brahmins should also get training?

why not? Mohyal, Nambaduri and other Brahmins are allowed to keep swords.. heard of Parsurama?

Sikhs keep coz they are permitted for thair KKKs, why are the Brahmins need swords........??

What is KKK?? its ku klux klan ..
and even in 5k's sword is not mentioned but a kirpan a short sword/knife..
Brahmins are allowed to keep swords there is no religious injunction to stop them from keeping and in the Mahabharata it is mention that one should worship the sword as God.. (in the aspect that brings justics).. read the 12 & 13th parva..

What happened to your apoplogitic statement ...you lier:

most of the RSS are.. these guys are middle aged to young.. and I was speaking from my experience.. not the photos that you spent all night hunting for.. I was speaking about Delhi..

learn to control your mouth..

 

[solid snake]

There might have been attacks against minorities, and there is probably still discrimination against minorities, but I don't understand how anyone can claim that India is "not" a democracy. Blacks and women were not allowed to vote in the US until many decades after the country gained independence, yet you cannot say that there was no democracy. The democracy in India is imperfect, but it is still a democracy.

 

[Samudra]

Actually Vajyapayee admitted it was because of Godhra that they lost..

He was trying to sidelines Advani's supporters and hardliners in general.
BJP and their allies lost big time in the south. Not a single seat in TN and not even five in AP. Thats almost eighty seats out of the window. The reason why they lost is incumbency against their allies. (ADMK and Naidu's TDP)

but you guys are also criminally neglegent of crimes against the muslims and other minorities in that regard

Riots happen in every multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multi-lingual country. There were riots because of ethnicity and languages as well. Everybody is a minority in India. The Hindu's are further divided based on ethnic, caste and lingual lines. So are Muslims. Riots happen in a country like India. We are not an Utopian society.

 

[Contrarian]

I apologise for my absense. I was away and could not reply to this thread personally.

I apologise on my part for bringing Pakistan into this, however the context of person in question has to be kept in mind, and he has shown repeatedly to be offensive to Indians, Hindu's in particular, and India in general. His posts have to be taken in that context.

To come back to the thread, solid snake has put it very very aptly. I dont need to explain it further.

There might have been attacks against minorities, and there is probably still discrimination against minorities, but I don't understand how anyone can claim that India is "not" a democracy. Blacks and women were not allowed to vote in the US until many decades after the country gained independence, yet you cannot say that there was no democracy. The democracy in India is imperfect, but it is still a democracy.

The proof, they say, lies in the pudding. And there can be no greater proof than the fact that in India, governments have been repeatedly been formed and disbanded in the next elections when the political party lost.

Most have completed their full term and some have not. Not once has the transfer of power not been peaceful. Not once has the mandate of the people been ignored.

India has voted and the political parties have formed their goverments and then formed their 'oppositions'! The choice of the people is clearly visible. The choice maybe for the good or bad, but it is our choice nonetheless.

 

[Spring Onion]

The proof, they say, lies in the pudding. And there can be no greater proof than the fact that in India, governments have been repeatedly been formed and disbanded in the next elections when the political party lost.

Most have completed their full term and some have not. Not once has the transfer of power not been peaceful. Not once has the mandate of the people been ignored.

India has voted and the political parties have formed their goverments and then formed their 'oppositions'! The choice of the people is clearly visible. The choice maybe for the good or bad, but it is our choice nonetheless.

well if only voting and conducting elections is democracy than indeed india has democracy but isnt in democracy the constition is followed strictly?

what about the Bihar assembly dissolution, was it according to constitution???

wasnt it democratic government bind to remove Modi after Gujrat horrific murder of thousands innocent people ?.

can we call a system without rule of law as democracy??

simillary

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Jana,

Some semblance of democracy is better than no democracy or sham democracy or military democracy or mere martial law!

As I said earlier, there is no perfect democracy in the world. All are shades of grey and some are black and yet are called democracies!

One must thank heavens that India remains to have some democracy and the military is apolitical.

The Constitution is followed and even changed to suit the Moslems and no others. That in itself indicates the length to which India attempts to accommodate the Moslems lest it is blamed for the Partition hangover.

 

[Titanium]

he has shown repeatedly to be offensive to Indians, Hindu's in particular, and India in general. His posts have to be taken in that context.

I can never be Offensive to "Hindus", Coz it has so many defination that even I may be considered "Hindu". So backoff and stop being dishonest, I never accused "Hindus" or be offensive.

Some semblance of democracy is better than no democracy

This is exactacally what we are discussing........if you did not get it still. India has some semblence of democracy but it is not actual democracy...........it is called majoritism.
Conduction election is not democracy.
Caste based and religion based election is not democracy.

 

[Logic note]

Mygoodness Mishraji you have lot of patience .

 

[aryan2007]

+ he is a Brahmin, the enemy of India as per Titanium

"First rule of engagement, know your enemy".
It is not "Hindus", but Brahmins."

 

[Titanium]

+ he is a Brahmin, the enemy of India as per Titanium

"First rule of engagement, know your enemy".
It is not "Hindus", but Brahmins."

See there needs for correction, he reffered as Hindus........which was dishonest on his part.

And your deception is, you become puppy of others...... let him reply..... he has his own opinion.

I oppose to Brahmanism, preached by RSS and its assorted gangs. I have nothing against "Hindus" -Which is nothing but ghost, not to be seen. So stop assuming things and for a change stop spreading these false notions on forum.

 

[aryan2007]

See there needs for correction, he reffered as Hindus........which was dishonest on his part.

Yes you are against Hindus.. though there is no accepted definition.. but people who claim to be Hindus are offended by your posts..

And your deception is, you become puppy of others...... let him reply..... he has his own opinion.

No personal attacks..

I oppose to Brahmanism, preached by RSS and its assorted gangs.

many of the RSS members are not really brahmins.. these guys are preachers of Hindutva..

I have nothing against "Hindus" -Which is nothing but ghost, not to be seen.

Is it so??
I see thousands a day..

So stop assuming things and for a change stop spreading these false notions on forum.

i was reading out your signature..
and mishra is most likely a brahmin caste.. in North India it is..