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India is expected to buy S-70B Seahawk Multirole Helicopters for the Navy

Which multirole helicopter would be better for the Navy?


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Why waste money to buy weapons in India there are so many poor people?
absolutely right......feed the poor and let your defenses vulnerable and let the over friendly push you into more poverty and misery...sir both things have to go hand in hand....but yes more efforts are required on the socio-economic front.
 
I would have preferred MH-60.. but guess that was not selected for some reasons.
 
Lesson for Pakistan...

like India one side fueling terrorism into Pakistan... from Afghanistan ... destabilization - low economy... no business..... no foreign investment and other side booming their economy...

If Pakistan want to change the game... do the same!
Always you and your people makes blame on ancestor,India. I hope that you're not a pupil of zaid Hamid:rofl::rofl:
 
I would have preferred MH-60.. but guess that was not selected for some reasons.
May be it was because you rootef for MH-60..Bcoz every body knows you only support the worst product in a lot..be it grippen or any other :p::bounce: jk
 
Even the Europeans dont like the NH90,
Italy and Germany are facing problems with its NH90 Fleet
UK doesnot even plan to induct NH90, instead preferring the cheaper BAE Merlin

Indian Navy at the moment operates some 130 Helis
but apart from the 9 Ka31 and 8 Dhruvs, rest of the fleet needs to be replaced and quickly
we have 30 Sea King and 13 Ka-28 Helis in ASW role as well as 50 Alloute/Naval Chetak Helis
India hopes to replace 13 Sea kings from 1980s era with 16 NMRH
other helis will be replaced by 91 NMRH which
will be made in India under TOT
Duh, EH-101 was designed to RN specs and available much sooner....


In 1977, the UK Ministry of Defence issued a requirement for an anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopter to replace the Royal Navy's Westland Sea Kings, which were becoming inadequate in the face of advances in Soviet submarine technology. Westland Helicopters put together a proposal, designated WG.34, for a three-engined helicopter of similar dimensions to the Sea King; the WG.34 was to feature more autonomy and a greater range than its predecessor.[4] At the same time, the Italian Navy (Marina Militare), was also considering the replacement of its fleet of Sea Kings built by the Italian company Agusta; Westland and Agusta soon began talks regarding joint development of a successor helicopter.[5]
Agusta and Westland finalised an agreement to work on the project together, and formed a jointly-owned new company, EH Industries Limited (EHI), to pursue the development and marketing of the new helicopter to potential operators. On 12 June 1981, the UK government confirmed its participation in the project, allocated an initial budget of £20 million to develop nine pre-series examples.[6] A major agreement, which secured funding for the majority of the EH101's development program, was signed by both the British and Italian governments in 1984.[7] At the 1985 Paris Air Show, Agusta showed a mock-up of a utility version of the new helicopter, leading to a more generalised design that could be customised to meet the needs of various civilian or military customers. The first prototype flew on 9 October 1987.[
AgustaWestland AW101 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1985, France, West Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom teamed to develop a NATO battlefield transport and anti-ship/anti-submarine helicopter for the 1990s. The United Kingdom left the team in 1987
NHIndustries NH90 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



EH-101
unit cost US$21 million (2009)

NH90
  • Useful load: 4,200 kg (9,260 lb)
Unit cost
32.5 million[3] (~US$42m) (FY13) TTH
€36.4m[4] (~US$50m) (FY13) NFH support
€43.3m[4] (~US$59m) (FY13) NFH attack

NOte:Dollar down since 2009?

The Merlin is significantly larger than NH-90, which may suite RN and Italian navy needs (SH3 operators) but not those of other Western European navies (Dauphin, Lynx, AB212 operators)

Why not Sikorsky S-92 (H-92 Superhawk) / CH-148?
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WASHINGTON: India is expected to choose Sikorsky Aircraft's S-70B Sea Hawk helicopters at a 16-aircraft tender worth over $1 billion, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The decision could come during a high-profile visit to the United States by Prime Minister Narendra Modi that starts on Friday.

The Sikorsky deal would be one of several large US arms purchases by India that are nearing completion, including over $2.5 billion in orders for Boeing Co's AH-64D Apache and CH-47 Chinook helicopters.

Sikorsky Aircraft, a unit of United Technologies Corp , declined comment on the potential helicopter order.

Those deals could in turn lay the groundwork for a much larger order of 123 helicopters for the Indian Navy, said one of the sources, who was not authorized to speak publicly.

Boeing continues to negotiate with India on the Apache and Chinook helicopters and hopes to have signed contracts by the end of the year, said spokeswoman Caroline Hutcheson.

US weapons makers, keen to offset declining US and European military spending, are watching closely to see whether Modi delivers on his promises to expand India's strategic relationship with the United States.

India was the top foreign buyer of US arms last year, according to defense research firm IHS Janes, and the two governments are now negotiating a series of specific defense collaboration projects that would involve more co-production.

US industry executives are excited about possible opportunities in India but caution that such deals often take longer to negotiate than expected.

Boeing already has a huge presence in India due to its sales of P-8 maritime surveillance planes and C-17 transport planes. Modi is slated to meet with Boeing Chief Executive Jim McNerney during his US visit.

Boeing is due to deliver a sixth P-8I plane to India later this year, and two more next year. India may also exercise options for four additional P-8 aircraft next year, Boeing officials said.

The US unit of Britain's BAE Systems is also ready for talks with India about the possible sale of up to 145 of its M777 towed 155mm howitzer artillery pieces, a deal valued at up to $885 million.

Rahul Madhavan, senior manager for aerospace and defense at the US -India Business Council lobby group, said the Modi government appeared to be embracing the Defense Trade and Technology Initiative (DTTI), which aims to increase collaboration on 17 specific defense projects.

"The Indian administration is taking this DTTI initiative forward and it is no longer perceived as just being a US centered type of affair, or a one-way street," he said. "The win-win situation is now more apparent for both sides."

Source- Economic Times

Seahawk-S70B
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Uh... The picture you show is of an MH-60R, S-70B has the FLIR on the bottom of the FLIR mounting platform.

Bhai koi S-70B Sikorsky Seahawk ke bhi baat kar lo. Does someone knowledgeable throw some light on benefits of this heli?

@sancho @Oscar Anybody who knows
Here is my two cents. It is a link to an article I wrote some time back on the Indian Defense Forum. I worked on the 70B for many years including the 5th generation aircraft in service with Brazil, Turkish, & Singapore navies.
 
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I would have preferred MH-60.. but guess that was not selected for some reasons.
Not selected because it was not part of the tender. 60R was offered via the FMS (Foreign Military Sales) process and India preferred a direct commercial sale process, so it disqualified the aircraft. Direct commercial sales are typically cheaper since the USN is not involved. In an FMS sale, the USN acts as the intermediary between the customer and the vendor and those costs are added to the overall price of the program. Some countries like it, others do not.
 
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Uh... The picture you show is of an MH-60R, S-70B has the FLIR on the bottom of the FLIR mounting platform.


Here is my two cents. It is a link to an article I wrote some time back on the Indian Defense Forum. I worked on the 70B for many years including the 5th generation aircraft in service with Brazil, Turkish, & Singapore navies.
Looks like the moderator removed my link. Please search on "Sikorsky S-70B - Right choice for the Indian navy Multirole Helicopter" to find the article I authored on the S-70B.
 
Uh... The picture you show is of an MH-60R, S-70B has the FLIR on the bottom of the FLIR mounting platform.


Here is my two cents. It is a link to an article I wrote some time back on the Indian Defense Forum. I worked on the 70B for many years including the 5th generation aircraft in service with Brazil, Turkish, & Singapore navies.
There is no link, can you please paste inline.
 

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