India involved in Lahore attacks: Police

[Hellfire]

Off topic but...

i feel sorry for your darken mind.

Afghanistan also has pushed 3 million refugees inside Pakistan.

They (the Talibans there) have also been treating their citizens as a second class citizen.

i wonder why don't Pakistan go inside Afghanistan to 'act'!

So cut the crap!

cut the crap?

I mean your post has no sense in the first place. What are you trying to post apart from what you are telling people not to (crap)?

Be coherent and collected please in your posts.

 

[Bill Longley]

i think pakistan should actively work for pashtunistsn...about 26 million pashtuns live in pakistan and 11 million in afghanistan.... due to numerical superiority of pashtuns in pakistan its pakistans right to enter pashtun areas of afghanistan into pakistan....it will end miseries and poverty of pashtuns..... as a pashtun i feel our future only lies with future of pakistan and we pakistani pashtuns must convince our relitives to join our federation for future of our generations

 

[Hellfire]

Why dont india first get its sh!t clean up and liberate itself from the various separatist and terrorist movements within the country and then talk of advising others!

Have a look:
(list of separatist movements inside india)
* Andhra Pradesh
o Political party: Jai Andhra
* Arunachal Pradesh
o Rebel organization: Arunachal Dragon Force
o Proposed autonomous region: Teola country
* Assam
o Rebel organization: United Liberation Front of Assam, Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam
* Bodoland
o Political parties: National Democratic Front of Bodoland
* Dimasaland
o Political party: Dima Halim Daogah (Two factions)
* Garo
o Rebel organizations: People's Liberation Front of Meghalaya/Achik National Volunteer Council[34]
o Proposed autonomous region: Achikland
* Gondwana
o Political party: Gondwana Ganatantra Party, seeking to create a Gondi state from parts of Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, and Maharashtra
* Kamtapur
o Political party: Kamtapur Peoples Party (political wing of KLO)
o Rebel organizations: Kamtapur Liberation Organisation, Koch-Rajbongshi Liberation Organisation

*
o Proposed autonomous region: Kamtapur state curved out of West Bengal
* Karbi
o Rebel organization: Karbi National Volunteers, United People’s Democratic Solidarity
o Proposed autonomous region: Karbi-Anglong
* Karnataka
o Proposed State: Tulu Nadu,seeking to create a Tulu state from parts of Karnataka
* Jammu & Kashmir
o Rebel organizations: Lashkar-e-Toiba, Harkat-ul-mujahideen
o Proposed state: Unification with Pakistan
o Political organizations: All Parties Hurriyat Conference, Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front
o Proposed state: Independent State of Kashmir
* Nagaland
o Rebel organization: National Socialist Council of Nagaland
o Government-in-exile: Government of the People’s Republic of Nagaland
o Proposed state: Nagalim, or Peoples Republic of Nagaland
* Manipur
o Rebel organizations: Hmar People's Convention–Democrat, Manipur People’s Liberation Front, United National Liberation Front, Revolutionary People's Front of Manipur, People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak
* Mizoram
o Rebel organizations: Zomi Revolutionary Organization, Mizoram Farmers Liberation Force
o Proposed state: Zozam
* Punjab
o Proposed state: Khalistan
o Rebel organizations: Khalistan Commando Force, Babbar Khalsa International, Khalistan Zindabad Force, International Sikh Youth Federation, Khalistan Liberation Force
* Rayalaseema
* Tamil Nadu
o Rebel organizations: Tamil National Retrieval Troops, Tamil Nadu Liberation Army
* Telangana
o Telangana Rashtra Samithi, seeking to separate Telangana from Andhra Pradesh state. Various other minor groups such as Jai Telangana Party, Telangana Communist Party, Telangana Janata Party, Telangana Praja Samithi, Telangana Rashtra Party, Telangana Rashtra Sadhana Front, Telangana Rashtra Samithi and Telangana Sadhana Samithi.
* Tripura
o Rebel organizations: National Liberation Front of Tripura (two factions operating), All Tripura Tiger Force
* Vidarbha
o Political parties: Vidarbha Rajya Party, Vidarbha Vikas Party, seeking to separate Vidarbha from Maharashtra.
* Zomi
o Political parties: Zomi National Congress

and yet you have no Indian citizens in mass exodus sitting in Sindh and Punjab ...... exactly what I was pointing out. Keep your home troubles within four walls and they remain private, wash them publicly then it becomes a free for all ........

Thanks for this

 

[Hellfire]

i think pakistan should actively work for pashtunistsn...about 26 million pashtuns live in pakistan and 11 million in afghanistan.... due to numerical superiority of pashtuns in pakistan its pakistans right to enter pashtun areas of afghanistan into pakistan....it will end miseries and poverty of pashtuns..... as a pashtun i feel our future only lies with future of pakistan and we pakistani pashtuns must convince our relitives to join our federation for future of our generations

I support you ....... go ahead .....!

 

[rubyjackass]

This is for the information of people here on India to clear up their mind a little from 64 nationalist movements or whatever. For people who really want to know.
For starters most of the language movements subsided with the policy of language based states when genuine need is felt.

Why dont india first get its sh!t clean up and liberate itself from the various separatist and terrorist movements within the country and then talk of advising others!

Have a look:
(list of separatist movements inside india)

* Andhra Pradesh
o Political party: Jai Andhra

Obselete...
Andhra Pradesh is the first language based state.
Andhra Pradesh is one of the frontline states of Indian economic development. Heard of Hyderabad city? Andhra Pradesh's headquarters. No one here even remembers that their grand fathers considered independence from India if their language was undermined.

* Kamtapur
o Political party: Kamtapur Peoples Party (political wing of KLO)
o Rebel organizations: Kamtapur Liberation Organisation, Koch-Rajbongshi Liberation Organisation

*
o Proposed autonomous region: Kamtapur state curved out of West Bengal

This is also a state movement. i.e., for new state under Indian Union. I don't see why this should be harmful to Indian nation.

* Karnataka
o Proposed State: Tulu Nadu,seeking to create a Tulu state from parts of Karnataka

Also a state movement. Not that popular. I doubt their success.

* Punjab
o Proposed state: Khalistan
o Rebel organizations: Khalistan Commando Force, Babbar Khalsa International, Khalistan Zindabad Force, International Sikh Youth Federation, Khalistan Liberation Force

Obselete...
Once a serious issue. Some of these were supported by Pakistan(?)
Splinter groups who still remember 1984 exist. But the movement got wiped out of India. Punjabis are one of the most vocal community of India on global fora.

* Rayalaseema

Some how they found this name on Andhra Pradesh's wiki page and just cut+paste.
The thing is Andhra Pradesh is geographically divided into Telangana, Rayalaseema and Coastal Andhra.
The demand is there but less heard of. May be if Telangana separates as a state from Andhra then Rayalaseema will make a stronger demand.
A state movement.

* Tamil Nadu

o Rebel organizations: Tamil National Retrieval Troops, Tamil Nadu Liberation Army

Obselete...
However hard the Tamil politicians pain Indian government about Tamils and pressuring SriLanka, they never dare to question Indianness of them. If they do that will be 'the end the story' for their party among people.
That says how popular this movement is.

* Telangana
o Telangana Rashtra Samithi, seeking to separate Telangana from Andhra Pradesh state. Various other minor groups such as Jai Telangana Party, Telangana Communist Party, Telangana Janata Party, Telangana Praja Samithi, Telangana Rashtra Party, Telangana Rashtra Sadhana Front, Telangana Rashtra Samithi and Telangana Sadhana Samithi.

A state movement.
The most popular state movement. If at all a new state can come up in India, it is Telangana. Even Andhra politicians agreed for Telangana's separation. The only problem is with Centre because one new state will spur demand for many more new ones.

* Vidarbha
o Political parties: Vidarbha Rajya Party, Vidarbha Vikas Party, seeking to separate Vidarbha from Maharashtra.

state movement.

* Zomi
o Political parties: Zomi National Congress

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state movement(?)


These are what I know. Some of the others can also fall under these classes(obsolete and state movements).

Please don't mention these movements among separatist movements from now on. Its not going to be funny anymore

 

[pakomar]

First Liberate Pakistan itself from the Taliban's otherwise the refugees from tht area may not even have a shelter to run to.

Real Taliban in Afghanistan is fighting against the NATO. Taliban objective is to remove west from Afghanistan. So called Taliban in Pakistan killing Muslim of Pakistan have no goals because they are the pet dogs of CIA and RAW funds.

 

[pakomar]

pure bullshit at best and crap at worst

your assessment and analysis could not be more immature. At the time of Sino-Indian war there was massive support from US-UK who were at one time willing to intervene on behalf of India. You could not do anything even if you wanted to. Would have loved to see Pakistan do that actually. As a state would not have lasted beyond 1970 also then.

That the problem Pakistan did not want to get in war with India because we believe in peace. In Mumbai attack India were the one who without any investigation point finger towards Pakistan on the other hand in Lahore attacks Pakistan authority investigate first.

Pakistan was offered by china to attack India. If Pakistan took that offer then India will be the one with new map. and there will be no partition of Pakistan.

 

[PeacefulIndian]

That the problem Pakistan did not want to get in war with India because we believe in peace. In Mumbai attack India were the one who without any investigation point finger towards Pakistan on the other hand in Lahore attacks Pakistan authority investigate first.

Pakistan was offered by china to attack India. If Pakistan took that offer then India will be the one with new map. and there will be no partition of Pakistan.

When we saw the boats used in 26/11 attacks on day 1, we immediately discarded the possibility of the attackers coming from Chennai, or Ahmedabad or Bangladesh using the boat. Karachi was the only place possible, which incidentally happens to be in Pakistan. So naturally we had enough information from day 1 to blame Pakistan, which turned out true later on.

And Not so sure about India, but you surely have been sporting a new map since 1971. And all the more possibility of happening it again.

 

[Zob]

When we saw the boats used in 26/11 attacks on day 1, we immediately discarded the possibility of the attackers coming from Chennai, or Ahmedabad or Bangladesh using the boat. Karachi was the only place possible, which incidentally happens to be in Pakistan. So naturally we had enough information from day 1 to blame Pakistan, which turned out true later on.

And Not so sure about India, but you surely have been sporting a new map since 1971. And all the more possibility of happening it again.

Ok so while the operation was going on you found the boats....because INDIANS have sixth sense to know that the attackers must have come in a boat....??

INDIANS regularly keep catching our fishing trawlers and you couldn't catch a boat that seemed to be out of place....indian survelliance is made up of 3 layers if i am not wrong...COAST GUARD,NAVY & RADAR systems....distance from KARACHI to BOMBAY is not a 10 minute walk you know....

but ohh well indians knew that while people were inside the TAJ indians knew it had come from PAKISTAN....and the best line is the boys carried MADE IN PAKISTAN PICKLES....like i said when you doing OUT OF AREA COVERT OPERATIONS...you don't carry anything that might reveal your identity specially not your mom made PICKLES!!!!!!

 

[Zob]

you know what the problem is peaceful indian i think you listen to alot of INDIAN MEDIA!!!! it is funny in gthe beggining but tends to brain wash you.....

 

[Zob]

i think pakistan should actively work for pashtunistsn...about 26 million pashtuns live in pakistan and 11 million in afghanistan.... due to numerical superiority of pashtuns in pakistan its pakistans right to enter pashtun areas of afghanistan into pakistan....it will end miseries and poverty of pashtuns..... as a pashtun i feel our future only lies with future of pakistan and we pakistani pashtuns must convince our relitives to join our federation for future of our generations

My friend you are an INDIAN change your flag your game is over...stop pretending....even the TALIBAN don't have the guts to tell NWFP to seperate because unlike you 99% of the pathans are patriotic to PAKISTAN....

 

[shukla_swapnil]

Real Taliban in Afghanistan is fighting against the NATO. Taliban objective is to remove west from Afghanistan. So called Taliban in Pakistan killing Muslim of Pakistan have no goals because they are the pet dogs of CIA and RAW funds.

Keep on differentiating between Good and BAD Taliban and best of luck with that. When the next guy knocks off your blocks for getting a haircut, ask him if he was fro the Real Taliban or the Duplicate one.

I think the entire America / Pakistan created mess of Taliban has to be eradicated for the world to be a safer place. Even Pakistan has official Anti-Taliban stance whether they are real or unreal.

All this has nothing to do with this thread which is for discussing Indian involvement in Lahore and I think there is nothing to discuss about that unless you want to hold another conference about origin of Zero, because that was indian involvement in Lahore attack.

 

[shukla_swapnil]

Ok so while the operation was going on you found the boats....because INDIANS have sixth sense to know that the attackers must have come in a boat....??

INDIANS regularly keep catching our fishing trawlers and you couldn't catch a boat that seemed to be out of place....indian survelliance is made up of 3 layers if i am not wrong...COAST GUARD,NAVY & RADAR systems....distance from KARACHI to BOMBAY is not a 10 minute walk you know....

but ohh well indians knew that while people were inside the TAJ indians knew it had come from PAKISTAN....and the best line is the boys carried MADE IN PAKISTAN PICKLES....like i said when you doing OUT OF AREA COVERT OPERATIONS...you don't carry anything that might reveal your identity specially not your mom made PICKLES!!!!!!

Come back you have reached mumbai without a Visa. This thread is about Lahore nt Mumbai.

 

[Hellfire]

That the problem Pakistan did not want to get in war with India because we believe in peace. In Mumbai attack India were the one who without any investigation point finger towards Pakistan on the other hand in Lahore attacks Pakistan authority investigate first.

Pakistan was offered by china to attack India. If Pakistan took that offer then India will be the one with new map. and there will be no partition of Pakistan.

hallucinations!


China didnt have the guts to attack India during that campaign (1971) even though Nixon wanted them to (he was encouraging them to). Nixon even moved in the sixth fleet to threaten Indian naval blockade of Bangladesh yet there was inaction on their part as the Soviets overtly threatened intervention if either China or US intervened.

Please try to analyse the situation and then post. They "offered" you say. If they were such buddies of yours why didnt they invade then and there and not help you in Kargil?

The fact of the matter is that if you were so peace loving you would not have invaded in western sector and limited your operations to purely defending the eastern pakistan relying on your "superior" army.

 

[pakomar]

When we saw the boats used in 26/11 attacks on day 1, we immediately discarded the possibility of the attackers coming from Chennai, or Ahmedabad or Bangladesh using the boat. Karachi was the only place possible, which incidentally happens to be in Pakistan. So naturally we had enough information from day 1 to blame Pakistan, which turned out true later on.

And Not so sure about India, but you surely have been sporting a new map since 1971. And all the more possibility of happening it again.

I am talking after 1 hour of attack when media start blaming Pakistan. It seen strange that India navy and coast guards did n t saw them coming expect media.

About the new map of Pakistan .well so much for showing Pakistan in 1971 that Indian are snakes who attack for behind. Not gone happen this time I dare Indians.