India introduced nukes to SAsia not Pak Irresponsible nukes:Pakistan debunks nuclear arsenal claim

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Irresponsible nukes: Pakistan debunks nuclear arsenal claim
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Published: November 15, 2015
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NEW YORK: Pakistan has debunked a claim that it was irresponsibly building its nuclear arsenal, and called for shifting attention to India’s investment in destabilising technologies and its aggressive posturing.

“Pakistan was not the first to introduce nuclear weapons in South Asia; India was,” a spokesman for the Pakistan Embassy in Washington said in a letter published in The New York Times on Saturday.

Guarding nuclear weapons: N-security a sacred job, says army chief

The spokesman, Nadeem Hotiana, was responding to a recent editorial claiming that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal was growing ‘faster than any other country’s,’ and that ‘Persuading Pakistan to rein in its nuclear weapons programme should be an international priority.’ Hotiana said, “Recent public reports confirm that India continues to grow its nuclear programme by testing missiles with longer ranges.”

A special waiver for India for nuclear trade is another destabilising step, the letter said.

No civil nuclear ‘deal’ being discussed with US, says Foreign Office

It added that Pakistan has proposed an agreement with India on nuclear restraint, including a strategic restraint regime that could address concerns raised in the editorial.

Published in The Express Tribune, November 15th, 2015.

 

[Devil Soul]

India introduced nukes to S. Asia: Pakistan
THE NEWSPAPER'S CORRESPONDENT— UPDATED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO

WASHINGTON: Pakistan reminded the international community on Saturday that it did not introduce nuclear weapons to South Asia, India did.

In a statement issued here, Pakistan Embassy rejected suggestions by the US media that Pakistan was “irresponsibly building its nuclear arsenal”.

“Pakistan was not the first to introduce nuclear weapons in South Asia, India was,” the statement said.

It also referred to recent reports, which confirmed that India continued to grow its nuclear programme by testing missiles with longer ranges. India was also working on fissile material production facilities, and investing in a nuclear triad that inevitably requires a larger nuclear arsenal, the embassy said. “India also propounds war-fighting doctrines while being ascendant as one of the world’s largest importers of military hardware. A special waiver for India for nuclear trade is another destabilising step,” it said.

It reminded the international community that Pakistan had for decades offered proposals to India for nuclear restraint, including a strategic restraint regime.

As late as September, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif made fresh proposals for peace in his speech at the United Nations.

However, India has refused to engage. “Peace can be better served by focusing the world’s attention on India’s lack of constructive response to Pakistan’s proposals, its investment in destabilising technologies and its aggressive posturing,” said embassy spokesman Nadeem Hotiana.

Published in Dawn, November 15th, 2015

 

[dadeechi]

India introduced nukes to S. Asia: Pakistan
THE NEWSPAPER'S CORRESPONDENT— UPDATED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO

WASHINGTON: Pakistan reminded the international community on Saturday that it did not introduce nuclear weapons to South Asia, India did.

In a statement issued here, Pakistan Embassy rejected suggestions by the US media that Pakistan was “irresponsibly building its nuclear arsenal”.

“Pakistan was not the first to introduce nuclear weapons in South Asia, India was,” the statement said.

It also referred to recent reports, which confirmed that India continued to grow its nuclear programme by testing missiles with longer ranges. India was also working on fissile material production facilities, and investing in a nuclear triad that inevitably requires a larger nuclear arsenal, the embassy said. “India also propounds war-fighting doctrines while being ascendant as one of the world’s largest importers of military hardware. A special waiver for India for nuclear trade is another destabilising step,” it said.

It reminded the international community that Pakistan had for decades offered proposals to India for nuclear restraint, including a strategic restraint regime.

As late as September, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif made fresh proposals for peace in his speech at the United Nations.

However, India has refused to engage. “Peace can be better served by focusing the world’s attention on India’s lack of constructive response to Pakistan’s proposals, its investment in destabilising technologies and its aggressive posturing,” said embassy spokesman Nadeem Hotiana.

Published in Dawn, November 15th, 2015

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[Thəorətic Muslim]

Editorials are articles written on a variety of issues by the editors of a paper. You have to realize, most "journalists" have 0 understanding on whatever it is they are writing about.

Take your average article in the newspaper, it's just a summary of what happened. With piss-poor background information, and numerous mistakes only an educated person wold notice. This is the editorial board of the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...on&module=Byline&region=Header&pgtype=article

This is the editorial by the way.

The Pakistan Nuclear Nightmare
By THE EDITORIAL BOARDNOV. 7, 2015

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With as many as 120 warheads, Pakistan could in a decade become the world’s third-ranked nuclear power, behind the United States and Russia, but ahead of China, France and Britain. Its arsenal is growing faster than any other country’s, and it has become even more lethal in recent years with the addition of small tactical nuclear weapons that can hit India and longer-range nuclear missiles that can reach farther.

These are unsettling truths. The fact that Pakistan is also home to a slew ofextremist groups, some of which are backed by a paranoid security establishment obsessed with India, only adds to the dangers it presents for South Asia and, indeed, the entire world.

Persuading Pakistan to rein in its nuclear weapons program should be an international priority. The major world powers spent two years negotiating an agreement to restrain the nuclear ambitions of Iran, which doesn’t have a single nuclear weapon. Yet there has been no comparable investment of effort in Pakistan, which, along with India, has so far refusedto consider any limits at all.

The Obama administration has begun to address this complicated issue with greater urgency and imagination, even though the odds of success seem small. The recent meeting at the White House on Oct. 22 between President Obama and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan appears to have gone nowhere. Yet it would be wrong not to keep trying, especially at a time of heightened tensions between Pakistan and India over Kashmir and terrorism.

What’s new about the administration’s approach is that instead of treating the situation as essentially hopeless, it is now casting about for the elements of a possible deal in which each side would get something it wants. For the West, that means restraint by Pakistan and greater compliance with international rules for halting the spread of nuclear technology. For Pakistan, that means some acceptance in the family of nuclear powers and access to technology.

At the moment, Pakistan is a pariah in the nuclear sphere to all but China; it has been punished internationally ever since it followed India’s example and tested a weapon in 1998. Pakistan has done itself no favors by refusing to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and by giving nuclear know-how to bad actors like North Korea. Yet, it is seeking treatment equal to that given to India by the West.

For decades, India was also penalized for developing nuclear weapons. But attitudes shifted in 2008 when the United States, seeking better relations with one of the world’s fastest-growing economies as a counterweight to China, gave India a pass and signed a generous nuclear cooperation deal that allowed New Delhi to buy American nuclear energy technology.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/opinion/sunday/the-pakistan-nuclear-nightmare.html

 

[MilSpec]

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[Imran Khan]

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then after tests start threatening pakistan ?????????????


May 18, 1998
Advani tells Pak to roll back anti-India policy, or else...
In a stern warning to Pakistan, Home Minister L K Advani today asked Islamabad to ''roll back its anti-India policy'' immediately, adding that otherwise ''it will prove costly''.

Addressing the media along with Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister, Dr Farooq Abdullah after a high-level meeting to review the security situation in the state, the home minister said his government will deal with ''Pakistan's hostile designs and activities firmly and strongly''.

Apprehending a stepping up of hostile activities both in Kashmir and elsewhere by Pakistan, Advani said it would be good for that country to join India in the common pursuit of peace and prosperity in the Indian sub-continent. ''Any other course will be futile and costly for Pakistan,'' he added.

He said India's bold and decisive steps to become a nuclear weapons state has brought about a 'qualitatively new stage' in Indo-Pak relations, particularly in finding a lasting solution to the Kashmir problem.

''It signifies, even while adhering to the principle of no first strike, India is resolved to deal firmly with Pakistan's hostile activities in Kashmir,'' he added.

Asked whether India will go in for destroying militant training camps across the border, Advani evaded a direct reply, saying, ''These are matters to be looked into.'' He, however, confirmed the presence of Afghan mercenaries in the Kashmir valley, and pointed out that a majority of those killed or apprehended were foreign mercenaries.

The meeting was also attended by Defence Minister George Fernandes and J and K Governor G C Saxena.

A follow-up meeting will be held to deal with developmental issues and resettlement of migrants, he said, adding that Dr Abdullah has suggested that this meeting be held in Srinagar.

The home minister said the issue of border fencing was also discussed at the meeting

Referring to the reinduction of more troops into the state to fight militancy, Advani said there would be redeployment of security forces.

It was decided to modernise the state police force and the Central paramilitary forces and also upgrade their weaponry. The existing communication and transport system would also be improved. He said the focus of the meeting was on dealing with militancy effectively.

The minister said, since its creation in 1947, Pakistan has remained unreconciled to the non-theocratic and non-denominational principle on which Indian nationhood rested.

Having tasted three defeats, the Pakistani rulers decided to mount a prolonged proxy war on Kashmir by sending trained mercenaries into the state. India has demonstrated its resolve in Kashmir and has already succeeded in turning the tide in favour of peace, normalcy and development in the state.

The home minister also announced the formation of a high-level committee to suggest recommendations for effectively dealing with militancy in the state. The committee will be headed by the special secretary in the home ministry.

Asked whether the government has any plan to take back Pakistan Occupied Kashmir from Islamabad, he said Parliament had passed a resolution to this effect some time back. "It would not happen suddenly, these are mainly long-term objectives."

He said Pakistan's reaction to India's nuclear bomb has once again confirmed Islamabad's perpetual obsession with the two-nation theory and all the falsification it entails. He said Pakistanis are blind to the fact that Prime Minister A B Vajpayee and Dr Abdullah are working hand in hand to affirm our national stand on Kashmir and also to restore peace, normalcy and development in that state.

Rediff On The NeT: Advani tells Pak to roll back anti-India policy, or else...

 

[SurvivoR]

india-introduced-nukes-as-a deterrence-to-China.

And Pakistan introduced them as a deterrence to India

 

[dadeechi]

then after tests start threatening pakistan ?????????????


May 18, 1998
Advani tells Pak to roll back anti-India policy, or else...
In a stern warning to Pakistan, Home Minister L K Advani today asked Islamabad to ''roll back its anti-India policy'' immediately, adding that otherwise ''it will prove costly''.

Addressing the media along with Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister, Dr Farooq Abdullah after a high-level meeting to review the security situation in the state, the home minister said his government will deal with ''Pakistan's hostile designs and activities firmly and strongly''.

Apprehending a stepping up of hostile activities both in Kashmir and elsewhere by Pakistan, Advani said it would be good for that country to join India in the common pursuit of peace and prosperity in the Indian sub-continent. ''Any other course will be futile and costly for Pakistan,'' he added.

He said India's bold and decisive steps to become a nuclear weapons state has brought about a 'qualitatively new stage' in Indo-Pak relations, particularly in finding a lasting solution to the Kashmir problem.

''It signifies, even while adhering to the principle of no first strike, India is resolved to deal firmly with Pakistan's hostile activities in Kashmir,'' he added.

Asked whether India will go in for destroying militant training camps across the border, Advani evaded a direct reply, saying, ''These are matters to be looked into.'' He, however, confirmed the presence of Afghan mercenaries in the Kashmir valley, and pointed out that a majority of those killed or apprehended were foreign mercenaries.

The meeting was also attended by Defence Minister George Fernandes and J and K Governor G C Saxena.

A follow-up meeting will be held to deal with developmental issues and resettlement of migrants, he said, adding that Dr Abdullah has suggested that this meeting be held in Srinagar.

The home minister said the issue of border fencing was also discussed at the meeting

Referring to the reinduction of more troops into the state to fight militancy, Advani said there would be redeployment of security forces.

It was decided to modernise the state police force and the Central paramilitary forces and also upgrade their weaponry. The existing communication and transport system would also be improved. He said the focus of the meeting was on dealing with militancy effectively.

The minister said, since its creation in 1947, Pakistan has remained unreconciled to the non-theocratic and non-denominational principle on which Indian nationhood rested.

Having tasted three defeats, the Pakistani rulers decided to mount a prolonged proxy war on Kashmir by sending trained mercenaries into the state. India has demonstrated its resolve in Kashmir and has already succeeded in turning the tide in favour of peace, normalcy and development in the state.

The home minister also announced the formation of a high-level committee to suggest recommendations for effectively dealing with militancy in the state. The committee will be headed by the special secretary in the home ministry.

Asked whether the government has any plan to take back Pakistan Occupied Kashmir from Islamabad, he said Parliament had passed a resolution to this effect some time back. "It would not happen suddenly, these are mainly long-term objectives."

He said Pakistan's reaction to India's nuclear bomb has once again confirmed Islamabad's perpetual obsession with the two-nation theory and all the falsification it entails. He said Pakistanis are blind to the fact that Prime Minister A B Vajpayee and Dr Abdullah are working hand in hand to affirm our national stand on Kashmir and also to restore peace, normalcy and development in that state.

Rediff On The NeT: Advani tells Pak to roll back anti-India policy, or else...

Prior to Pokran II, It was very well know in Indian circles that Pakistan had already achieved the nuclear weapons.

India conducted it's tests on the 11th and 13th May 1998. India was worried that it would have to take the full wrath of the International community. First to deflect the attention, it had identified China as the primary reason. Later not to get sanctioned alone, it had increased the tempo so that Pakistan would also come out into open and get sanctioned. There was concern in Delhi circles at that time that Pakistan might not test the weapons under pressure from International community.

The above statement was made between India's and Pakistan's nuclear tests. It needs to be taken with a huge bucket of salt.

 

[Jackdaws]

So if India gives up its nukes voluntarily - like South Africa, Brazil or Argentina - would Pakistan follow suit?

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

Pakistan introduce religious extremism to sub continent not anyone else

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

india-introduced-nukes-as-a deterrence-to-China.

Actually it was USA. After USA threatened us with Nuke Weapon in 1971, India felt they will be respected only after becoming a N power. Though it had started the groundwork after 1964, after China first tested, US threatening made sure India stayed on the N powered path.

 

[third eye]

As late as September, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif made fresh proposals for peace in his speech at the United Nations.

However, India has refused to engage. “Peace can be better served by focusing the world’s attention on India’s lack of constructive response to Pakistan’s proposals, its investment in destabilising technologies and its aggressive posturing,” said embassy spokesman Nadeem Hotiana.

NS's peace initiatives mean nothing as Ufa showed. What he agreed was undone by his army. He travels to US & come back empty handed then the other sharif travels to the same destination ! In any case peace without closure of Mumbai is not possible.

Next @ subject, it does not matter who started it or how many they have ( Nukes).

What purpose are they serving is more relevant. Have the nukes saved Pakistan ? Some Pakistanis may say Yes as it has ' kept India away". It does not serve Indian interests to attack Pak.

Are the nukes saving Pak citizens & innocent children - No

Its a call for Pak to take.

 

[Tipu7]

Actually it was USA. After USA threatened us with Nuke Weapon in 1971, India felt they will be respected only after becoming a N power. Though it had started the groundwork after 1964, after China first tested, US threatening made sure India stayed on the N powered path.

Pakistan introduce religious extremism to sub continent not anyone else

Way before Kashmiri rise of Mujahideen, Indian RSS and other extremists group had already massacred thousands of Muslims in India........ Extremism has many forms, and in various dimensions India has more polluted history and present regarding extremism.....

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

Way before Kashmiri rise of Mujahideen, Indian RSS and other extremists group had already massacred thousands of Muslims in India........ Extremism has many forms, and in various dimensions India has more polluted history and present regarding extremism.....

yeah I was wrong. I forgot that Pakistani and most of the Muslims in subcontinent are the result of religious extremism in sub continent.Sorry,You are right India have bloody history Babur,Aurangzeb,Gauri,Tipu Sultan etc. India have been suffering from extremism for long

 

[Tipu7]

yeah I was wrong. I forgot that Pakistani and most of the Muslims in subcontinent are the result of religious extremism in sub continent.Sorry,You are right India have bloody history Babur,Aurangzeb,Gauri,Tipu Sultan etc. India have been suffering from extremism for long

If they are extremists then all human history is extremist.....
If kicking Hindu a$$ make them extremists in your eyes then save my name for future enrollment..........