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India has decisively lost the race to China during this decade...

The last couple times I went to China, I noticed far more Indians than the preceding times. There were entire families who were obviously tourists and also people who seemed to be working there or were students. I always wondered what they thought.

The current state of China-India ties are pretty sad. Both countries should be partners in bringing Asia back to a central stage of global prosperity. Instead there is deep enmity and distrust.
 
India has too many legacy issues.
One other important issue IMHO is any Indian worth his or her salt leaves India for better opportunity to West.
 
authoritarianism can work and do wonders..

a decade+ of 10% growth ?

only if ((they)) want it but it was probably a one off experiment, China being the guinea pig and beneficiary.
 
India will always have sub saharan levels of poverty. Time won't change low IQness
 
India will always have sub saharan levels of poverty. Time won't change low IQness

If the Indians, Africans and Tibetans become like Australians and take take take wouldn't they all just take Australia, Japan and anything else they wanted?
 
Once you see your weak points, you have become stronger.

Happy new year to all Indian and Pakistani members.
Seeing is not enough. Addressing it and take action is more important.

Indian see their Mumbai is slum compare to Shanghai. They know this witness but they just put on a brace front and come up with whatever delusion they can think of.
 
India talks
China works

So you can not be supa pawa with talk big only.make another movie of supa pawa2030 now


True. Just wait for another 10 years. You will see an India shining much much better than China. An inclusive, vibrant, diversed economy building takes time compared to building an economy by enslaving people by making them work and n stress, making ghost cities, exploiting natural resources madly, taking away people's property any time without proper compansation etc.
Seeing is not enough. Addressing it and take action is more important.

Indian see their Mumbai is slum compare to Shanghai. They know this witness but they just put on a brace front and come up with whatever delusion they can think of.

This is how a 50 cent army do propaganda.
 
Seeing is not enough. Addressing it and take action is more important.

Indian see their Mumbai is slum compare to Shanghai. They know this witness but they just put on a brace front and come up with whatever delusion they can think of.

Shanghai is such a great and clean city where an animal like pig which lives in filth also die because of pollution.


China pig deaths: Toll from Shanghai rivers nears 14,000
Published20 March 2013
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Pig farmer in China (14 March 2013)

image captionPork is widely eaten across most of China
The number of dead pigs discovered in Chinese rivers around Shanghai has risen to almost 14,000, officials say.
There is no word from the authorities about the cause of the deaths.
Last week, officials retrieved nearly 6,000 pig carcasses from the Huangpu River network. They insisted that water from the river was safe.
Residents have condemned the local government's failure to account for the carcasses, which some believe have been dumped by farmers upstream.
Workers have been pulling dead pigs from rivers that supply Shanghai with drinking water for the past 11 days, sparking alarm on internet chat sites.
Correspondents say that the carcasses are embarrassing for the city's authorities, who want Shanghai to be seen as an international financial centre.
The scandal has also highlighted China's difficulties with food safety as pork is one of the country's most popular meats.
Outrage
Farmers in the Jiaxing area of Zhejiang province, upstream from Shanghai, have denied dumping the pigs in rivers.
Dead pigs along Songjiang, Shanghai - picture released 10/3/13

image captionThe pigs have washed ashore along the river
Improperly disposed of animals that have died from disease can often end up in China's food supply, experts say, despite laws against such practices.
So far, the general mood in the affected areas has been of concern rather than outrage or panic.
The Chinese public has seen food scandals before, such as the use of oil scraped from drains for cooking, and baby formula contaminated with chemicals.
Laboratory tests have identified that some of the pigs had porcine circovirus, a common disease that affects pigs but not humans.
Jiaxing officials have said that the pigs may have fallen victim to the cold weather.
The scandal comes amid growing concerns about China's environment, including recent record smog levels in Beijing, and water and air pollution affecting villages.

On the other hand:


How Asia's biggest slum contained the coronavirus
By Soutik BiswasIndia correspondent
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Dharav

Image captionNight falls on Dharavi, home to more than 650,000 people
In one of the world's most congested shanty towns, social distancing is not a luxury people can afford. And density is a friend of the coronavirus.
Imagine more than 650,000 people spread over 2.5 grubby sq km, less than a square mile. That's a population larger than Manchester living in an area smaller than Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens.
Eight to 10 people live together in poky 100 sq ft dwellings. About 80% of the residents use community toilets. Homes and factories coexist in single buildings lining the slum's narrow lanes. Most people are informal daily-wage workers who don't cook at home and go out to get their food.
 
Shanghai is such a great and clean city where an animal like pig which lives in filth also die because of pollution.


China pig deaths: Toll from Shanghai rivers nears 14,000
Published20 March 2013
Share
Pig farmer in China (14 March 2013)

image captionPork is widely eaten across most of China
The number of dead pigs discovered in Chinese rivers around Shanghai has risen to almost 14,000, officials say.
There is no word from the authorities about the cause of the deaths.
Last week, officials retrieved nearly 6,000 pig carcasses from the Huangpu River network. They insisted that water from the river was safe.
Residents have condemned the local government's failure to account for the carcasses, which some believe have been dumped by farmers upstream.
Workers have been pulling dead pigs from rivers that supply Shanghai with drinking water for the past 11 days, sparking alarm on internet chat sites.
Correspondents say that the carcasses are embarrassing for the city's authorities, who want Shanghai to be seen as an international financial centre.
The scandal has also highlighted China's difficulties with food safety as pork is one of the country's most popular meats.
Outrage
Farmers in the Jiaxing area of Zhejiang province, upstream from Shanghai, have denied dumping the pigs in rivers.
Dead pigs along Songjiang, Shanghai - picture released 10/3/13

image captionThe pigs have washed ashore along the river
Improperly disposed of animals that have died from disease can often end up in China's food supply, experts say, despite laws against such practices.
So far, the general mood in the affected areas has been of concern rather than outrage or panic.
The Chinese public has seen food scandals before, such as the use of oil scraped from drains for cooking, and baby formula contaminated with chemicals.
Laboratory tests have identified that some of the pigs had porcine circovirus, a common disease that affects pigs but not humans.
Jiaxing officials have said that the pigs may have fallen victim to the cold weather.
The scandal comes amid growing concerns about China's environment, including recent record smog levels in Beijing, and water and air pollution affecting villages.

On the other hand:


How Asia's biggest slum contained the coronavirus
By Soutik BiswasIndia correspondent
Share this with Email Share this with Facebook Share this with Twitter Share this with Whatsapp
Image copyrightREUTERS
Dharav

Image captionNight falls on Dharavi, home to more than 650,000 people
In one of the world's most congested shanty towns, social distancing is not a luxury people can afford. And density is a friend of the coronavirus.
Imagine more than 650,000 people spread over 2.5 grubby sq km, less than a square mile. That's a population larger than Manchester living in an area smaller than Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens.
Eight to 10 people live together in poky 100 sq ft dwellings. About 80% of the residents use community toilets. Homes and factories coexist in single buildings lining the slum's narrow lanes. Most people are informal daily-wage workers who don't cook at home and go out to get their food.
Lol, u share a 2013 news and then an Indian salty writer talking about Shanghai? You can take those as trusted?

See the problem with India and why they can never surpass China economically now.
 
There might've been a semblance of a true rivalry back in the 90s when China and India were both two massive, overpopulated third world nations trying to figure out a path. But after the early 2000s, their paths have divulged so much that the two countries are living in two different centuries at this point. China has soared like a phoenix while India has continued to limp along, making pockets of progress here and there but nothing transformative.

If India can build 80 cities like Noida, then I'll eat my words, but right now the two countries are nowhere near each other.
 
Chinese government faced many resistance too. Many policies were not popular in the beginning. Average people couldn't see more than their own immediate benefits. But China normally tried and if it works they go all forced. No hesitation or backing forward. For example, when China decided to build high-speed railway to reduce oil consumption. First a couple of years, western media and some local media told stories of empty trains or people couldn't afford etc. But this is the national strategy for energy security and also by building new high speed railway the legacy railway could carry more freight. There are some lines you will never see profit but most lines are very busy now. It beats all the expectations. No noise from western media anymore because they could not build their own. UK's HS 2 will cost 100billion ponds and 30 years to finish. US' Cal HS miscarried. India's still face the problem of LA.
 
Aakar Patel is a known baiter. Anyway, if China was so good 100,000 Chinese refugees wouldn't be living in India.
 
Aakar Patel is a known baiter. Anyway, if China was so good 100,000 Chinese refugees wouldn't be living in India.

Those are Tibetan refugees who were related to the old ruling class. And they left during China's most repressive period, primarily before 1990. Now Tibet is far more developed than India and very few are crossing over nowadays.
 
There was never a race, claiming a race with someone whose economy is 6+bigger than you is ludicrous. India is having a race with Bangladesh and is losing
 
Lol, u share a 2013 news and then an Indian salty writer talking about Shanghai? You can take those as trusted?

See the problem with India and why they can never surpass China economically now.
It's BBC n
Aakar Patel is a known baiter. Anyway, if China was so good 100,000 Chinese refugees wouldn't be living in India.

The speciality of these people is that whenever they read something good about themselves, they get a big orgasm irrespective of the reliability of the source.
 
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