well Bangladeshi friends should be thankful to Indians for building Farata dam....................that controlled flooding to some extend
Same way india should be thankful if China build dam. But india just hearing the news crying out loud.
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Same way india should be thankful if China build dam. But india just hearing the news crying out loud.
Asian Highway, Tipaimukh Dam to jeopardise sovereignty
Staff Reporter
Speakers at a roundtable yesterday said that the government wanted to implement the conspiracy of India against the country by allowing the transit and corridor for India in the name of Asian Highway Network and not protesting the construction of Tipaimukh Dam on Borak River at the upper reaches of Surma and Kushiara Rivers.
They called upon the government not to sign the agreement of Asian Highway Network to be connected with AH-1 and AH-2 of Asian Highway route saying that if the government signs the agreement AH-41 avoiding AH-1 and AH-2, the people of the country would not oppose.
Organised by Swadhinata Forum the roundtable on 'Proposed Asian Highway: Responsibility of Bangladesh' was held at the National press Club in the city.
President of the Forum Abu Naser Moshammad Rahmatullah presided over the roundtable while it was addressed among others by BNP leaders and former ministers Dr Khandaker Moharraf Hossain and ASM Hannan Shah, former vice chancellor of Dhaka University Prof Dr Emaj Uddin Ahmed, former adviser to caretaker government Maj Gen (Retd) Ruhul Alam Chowdhury, former Director General of BDR Maj Gen (Retd) ALM Fazlur Rhaman, Journalist Mubaidur Rahman, President of Jatiya Gonotantrik Party Shafiul Alam Prodhan, President of National People's Party (NPP) Sheikh Shawkat Hossain Nilu and General Secretary of Islami Oikkya Jote Moulana Abdul Latif Nejami.
Khandaker Mosharraf said if Bangladesh were connected with Asian Highway route, it would be a threat to the sovereignty of the country.
ASM Hannan Shah called upon the government not to take AH-1 and AH-2 in the interest of the country saying that when the two routes would be completed, India would continue aggression on the country. If it is needed to sign the agreement, the government should hold the referendum, he added.
Prof Emaj Uddin said exactly corridor is being allowed in the name of AH-1 and AH-2 to be connected with Asian Highway route and Bangladesh should not accept the project to protect the country from the aggression of India.
The speakers said if Bangladesh would be connected with the routes, the country would be turned to a free market of Indian goods. It would bring immense losses for Bangladesh, they added.
They also said the country would be turned to battle place of Seven Sisters of India, which are conducting movement for liberation and the Indian central government wants to resist them by using the two routes.
The New Nation - Internet Edition
Staff Reporter
Speakers at a roundtable yesterday said that the government wanted to implement the conspiracy of India against the country by allowing the transit and corridor for India in the name of Asian Highway Network and not protesting the construction of Tipaimukh Dam on Borak River at the upper reaches of Surma and Kushiara Rivers.
They called upon the government not to sign the agreement of Asian Highway Network to be connected with AH-1 and AH-2 of Asian Highway route saying that if the government signs the agreement AH-41 avoiding AH-1 and AH-2, the people of the country would not oppose.
Organised by Swadhinata Forum the roundtable on 'Proposed Asian Highway: Responsibility of Bangladesh' was held at the National press Club in the city.
President of the Forum Abu Naser Moshammad Rahmatullah presided over the roundtable while it was addressed among others by BNP leaders and former ministers Dr Khandaker Moharraf Hossain and ASM Hannan Shah, former vice chancellor of Dhaka University Prof Dr Emaj Uddin Ahmed, former adviser to caretaker government Maj Gen (Retd) Ruhul Alam Chowdhury, former Director General of BDR Maj Gen (Retd) ALM Fazlur Rhaman, Journalist Mubaidur Rahman, President of Jatiya Gonotantrik Party Shafiul Alam Prodhan, President of National People's Party (NPP) Sheikh Shawkat Hossain Nilu and General Secretary of Islami Oikkya Jote Moulana Abdul Latif Nejami.
Khandaker Mosharraf said if Bangladesh were connected with Asian Highway route, it would be a threat to the sovereignty of the country.
ASM Hannan Shah called upon the government not to take AH-1 and AH-2 in the interest of the country saying that when the two routes would be completed, India would continue aggression on the country. If it is needed to sign the agreement, the government should hold the referendum, he added.
Prof Emaj Uddin said exactly corridor is being allowed in the name of AH-1 and AH-2 to be connected with Asian Highway route and Bangladesh should not accept the project to protect the country from the aggression of India.
The speakers said if Bangladesh would be connected with the routes, the country would be turned to a free market of Indian goods. It would bring immense losses for Bangladesh, they added.
They also said the country would be turned to battle place of Seven Sisters of India, which are conducting movement for liberation and the Indian central government wants to resist them by using the two routes.
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Really.....china is building a Dam in a river which goes through Bangladesh . If china builds a Damn your country will be effected...but i guess Chinese are Angels what ever they do ..eeh ?
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It's very hard to indulge in any sensible argument with some BD members, but I'll try once again.
The Water Page - Farakka Water Treaty
Check the treaty, BD is getting 50% share of water. What do want actually?
Anyway they will probably ignore the post and carry on with their rant. :/
The Water Page - Farakka Water Treaty
Check the treaty, BD is getting 50% share of water. What do want actually?
Anyway they will probably ignore the post and carry on with their rant. :/
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Good for them. If your fantacy becomes true. We shall not see bangladeshi's cry out louder than us against beloved chinese friends. Indias have other alternatives unlike your bangladesh depends mainly on bhramputra. LOL
If they can stop all that water from flowing downsream, then more power to them. Because naturally it's impossible to store all that melting snow. They can only use those dam's to create power. Water can't be stopped.
Some bangladeshi's can be very unfaithful people as we just witnessed in PDF by bangladeshi's, regardless of any help-AID India does for bangladesh in power and economic sectors.
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Bangladesh receives less water thru Farakka
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Like the first spell of 10 days, India in the second spell-- from January 11-20- has not released to Bangladesh its fair share mentioned in the indicative schedule-2 of the Ganges water sharing treaty signed in 1996, according to statistics released yesterday by the Joint Rivers Commission (JRC), Bangladesh.
Bangladesh has been deprived of 20,468 cusec of water during the second spell of this year. In the first spell of 10 days Bangladesh got 20,796 cusec of water less than its apportioned share.
Bangladesh received 37,204 cusec of water at Farakka point against its equitable share of 57630 cusec during January 11-20, 2010.
Mir Sajjad Hossain, Member of Joint Rivers Commission, Bangladesh would not make comment on India's release of less volume of water than its share.
Bangladesh and India share Ganges water each year from January 1 to May 31 under the Ganges water sharing treaty.
According to the treaty, Bangladesh and India is to equally share water if the flow is up to 70,000 cusec or less in the Farakka Barrage point. Bangladesh is to get 35,000 cusec of water and India to get the rest if water at Farakka point is between 70,000 and 75,000 cusec. When water at Farakka point reaches more than 75,000 cusec, India is to get 40,000 cusec and Bangladesh to get the rest.
But statistics show that India never followed these terms and conditions of the accord and released less quantity of water for Bangladesh. It did not respond to protests lodged by the JRC, Bangladesh in the past.
Bangladesh and India shares water of 50 common rivers. The JRC governs 57 identified border rivers, 54 with India and 3 with Myanmar.
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in her recent visit sought cooperation from her counterpart for fair sharing of water of Teesta and other common rivers.
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Bangladesh gets 370000 cuses out of 75000 cuses.
India gets 40000 cuses out 75000 cuses.
So, the difference is about 5000 - 7000 cuses of water that this whole crying is about.
Our bangladeshi friends have tried there best to make it look like major epidemic threat and made a mountain out of mole.Hope both of our politicians come to mutual deal to sort this 5000 cuses issue out.
Move on people nothing big here this thread was suppose to attract attention. It succeded and 5000 cuses of water is what is keeping these bangladeshi's on there toe's.
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well Bangladeshi friends should be thankful to Indians for building Farata dam....................that controlled flooding to some extend
Do you have trouble typing Farakka??
Yes we should be thankful because our rivers are drying because of that Farakka.
Let's all the Bangladeshis here raise a toast for that success.
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So, the difference is about 5000 - 7000 cuses of water that this whole crying is about.
Read this again my friend before posting your opinion:
You see,we get 20000 cusecs less water than we deserve.Not 5000.Don't try to make it so simple.
We have a right to worry about that.
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Dude once again, please read the treaty before committing tomfoolery, during winter season the total water capacity in river is much less than during mansoon. Anyway it's all explained in the treaty, read it, try to understand it. Even if you're not satisfied you have the option to appeal in international court. Your rant not gonna change anything.
edit: read the Annexure –I, I can't copy here because of table formatting.
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Sharing Rivers for Peace, Security and Development of South Asia by Applying the Framework Recommended by the World Commission on Dams
Prabin Man Singh
Wafed, Nepal
Continental South Asia (India, Nepal, Bangladesh and Pakistan) is the most populated region in the world with about one sixth of the global population. The population is ever increasing at the rate of 1.5%. If it continues to increase in this rate, then by 2015 the total population of South Asia will reach over 1.8 billions . Demand of food for the existing and future population, unplanned urbanization and rapid industrialization are some of the biggest challenges these countries are facing. Despite these challenges, the region is bestowed with priceless water resources. Ganges, Bhramaputra and Indus are the major river basins in the region. Nepal, India and Bangladesh share Ganges river basin, whereas India and Bangladesh share Bhramaputra river basin, and likewise, Indus river basin is shared by India and Pakistan.
These rivers are life and blood of these countries. Bangladesh relies on water from Ganges and Bhramaputra for irrigation and drinking water. Nepal is dreaming to earn ‘hydrodollar’ by selling its immense hydroelectricity potential from many tributaries and sub-tributaries of Ganges. Pakistan also relies on Indus River for irrigation of its fertile North Eastern region. India with its more than one billion populations and rapid industrialization requires more water for irrigation and electrification than ever before.
Three bi-lateral treaties to share the major tributaries of Ganges – Koshi, Gandak and Mahakali (in India known as Sharada) – had been singed between the government of India and Nepal in 1954, 1956 and 1996 respectively. The Government of Bangladesh and India singed a Farakkah treaty on sharing of Ganges River in 1996. Similarly, the government of Pakistan and India singed the treaty to share Indus River in 1960.
However, benefit-sharing of these rivers has been unequal and over politicized. The benefit-sharing had not been done in accordance with the present and future water needs of each of the riparian countries. Each country has been trying to get the largest share leading to more controversies. The negotiation process has become a foul play with each other in the absence of basic framework for sharing these rivers for peace, security and regional cooperation. India being the most powerful country in the region with distinct political and geographical advantages has been in control of the negotiation process most of the time.
In another scenario, India’s Interlinking Rivers Project (ILRP) targets to interlink all international rivers flowing through Nepal to India. This is yet another example of such faulty process. India has neither consulted Nepal nor taken any approval of the co-riparian countries before undertaking such a mega project. The ILRP also plans to divert water from all major rivers flowing to Bangladesh without proper consultation and prior approval. In response to it, the Government of Bangladesh has already objected to this scheme for being too destructive for its survival and ecosystem. The Government of Nepal is yet to make any formal statement regarding this. The people and campaign groups and communities have been opposing the ILRP since 2003.
Often international rivers demarcate the boundaries between the co-countries such as Mahakali, Narayani and Mechi Rivers in case of India and Nepal. Over a period of time, the flows of these rivers have shifted laterally. With such shifts, the boundary line between the co-countries also changes. Land area previously in the right bank of the river has come to the left bank of the river and vice versa. Encroachment of disputed territory by another co-riparian country as in the case of Susta (Narayani river basin) and Mahakali river basin in Nepal are some examples of increasing conflicts. India and Pakistan had already fought four wars against each other since 1947 – the year of independence and separation. One of the main reasons behind these wars have been on the issue of Indus River water-sharing.
Despite the widest possibilities of sharing these rivers for peace, security and development in the region, no sincere efforts have been done so far. The South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) as being the only inter-governmental body does not address such issues but only some regional economic and trade issues. No regional framework has been worked out on making the best use of these rivers for peace and prosperity in the region unlike the case of Mekong or other transboundary river basins in other parts of the world.
Water should be regarded as a source of co-operation through the resolution of existing conflicts. Disagreements about how our limited and common water resources should be used are not uncommon but proper solutions must be found through mutual understanding and negotiation that are socially, economically, politically and environmentally acceptable. This can only be achieved through the free, prior and informed participation of all the river basins-based stakeholders. The new global framework suggested by the World Commission on Dams in its report in 2000 for the best management of water and energy resources is certainly an approach to adopt. But it is very clear the denial of transboundary water-related problems and the failure in their resolutions will remain a major obstacle for regional cooperation, peace and prosperity of South Asia.
Name and address of author:
Prabin Man Singh
WAFED, GPO Box 2125
60 New Plaza Marga, Putalisadak
Kathmandu, Nepal
Tel/fax: 4429741/4419610
E-mail: wafed@ntc.net.np, prabinsingh@gmail.com
Prabin Man Singh
Wafed, Nepal
Continental South Asia (India, Nepal, Bangladesh and Pakistan) is the most populated region in the world with about one sixth of the global population. The population is ever increasing at the rate of 1.5%. If it continues to increase in this rate, then by 2015 the total population of South Asia will reach over 1.8 billions . Demand of food for the existing and future population, unplanned urbanization and rapid industrialization are some of the biggest challenges these countries are facing. Despite these challenges, the region is bestowed with priceless water resources. Ganges, Bhramaputra and Indus are the major river basins in the region. Nepal, India and Bangladesh share Ganges river basin, whereas India and Bangladesh share Bhramaputra river basin, and likewise, Indus river basin is shared by India and Pakistan.
These rivers are life and blood of these countries. Bangladesh relies on water from Ganges and Bhramaputra for irrigation and drinking water. Nepal is dreaming to earn ‘hydrodollar’ by selling its immense hydroelectricity potential from many tributaries and sub-tributaries of Ganges. Pakistan also relies on Indus River for irrigation of its fertile North Eastern region. India with its more than one billion populations and rapid industrialization requires more water for irrigation and electrification than ever before.
Three bi-lateral treaties to share the major tributaries of Ganges – Koshi, Gandak and Mahakali (in India known as Sharada) – had been singed between the government of India and Nepal in 1954, 1956 and 1996 respectively. The Government of Bangladesh and India singed a Farakkah treaty on sharing of Ganges River in 1996. Similarly, the government of Pakistan and India singed the treaty to share Indus River in 1960.
However, benefit-sharing of these rivers has been unequal and over politicized. The benefit-sharing had not been done in accordance with the present and future water needs of each of the riparian countries. Each country has been trying to get the largest share leading to more controversies. The negotiation process has become a foul play with each other in the absence of basic framework for sharing these rivers for peace, security and regional cooperation. India being the most powerful country in the region with distinct political and geographical advantages has been in control of the negotiation process most of the time.
In another scenario, India’s Interlinking Rivers Project (ILRP) targets to interlink all international rivers flowing through Nepal to India. This is yet another example of such faulty process. India has neither consulted Nepal nor taken any approval of the co-riparian countries before undertaking such a mega project. The ILRP also plans to divert water from all major rivers flowing to Bangladesh without proper consultation and prior approval. In response to it, the Government of Bangladesh has already objected to this scheme for being too destructive for its survival and ecosystem. The Government of Nepal is yet to make any formal statement regarding this. The people and campaign groups and communities have been opposing the ILRP since 2003.
Often international rivers demarcate the boundaries between the co-countries such as Mahakali, Narayani and Mechi Rivers in case of India and Nepal. Over a period of time, the flows of these rivers have shifted laterally. With such shifts, the boundary line between the co-countries also changes. Land area previously in the right bank of the river has come to the left bank of the river and vice versa. Encroachment of disputed territory by another co-riparian country as in the case of Susta (Narayani river basin) and Mahakali river basin in Nepal are some examples of increasing conflicts. India and Pakistan had already fought four wars against each other since 1947 – the year of independence and separation. One of the main reasons behind these wars have been on the issue of Indus River water-sharing.
Despite the widest possibilities of sharing these rivers for peace, security and development in the region, no sincere efforts have been done so far. The South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) as being the only inter-governmental body does not address such issues but only some regional economic and trade issues. No regional framework has been worked out on making the best use of these rivers for peace and prosperity in the region unlike the case of Mekong or other transboundary river basins in other parts of the world.
Water should be regarded as a source of co-operation through the resolution of existing conflicts. Disagreements about how our limited and common water resources should be used are not uncommon but proper solutions must be found through mutual understanding and negotiation that are socially, economically, politically and environmentally acceptable. This can only be achieved through the free, prior and informed participation of all the river basins-based stakeholders. The new global framework suggested by the World Commission on Dams in its report in 2000 for the best management of water and energy resources is certainly an approach to adopt. But it is very clear the denial of transboundary water-related problems and the failure in their resolutions will remain a major obstacle for regional cooperation, peace and prosperity of South Asia.
Name and address of author:
Prabin Man Singh
WAFED, GPO Box 2125
60 New Plaza Marga, Putalisadak
Kathmandu, Nepal
Tel/fax: 4429741/4419610
E-mail: wafed@ntc.net.np, prabinsingh@gmail.com
Tipaimukh dam to destroy ecology: experts
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Commissioning of the planned Tipaimukh dam by India will escalate socio-economic and political tension in Indias north-eastern states and also Bangladesh, and imperil the ecology of the region, green campaigners said.
After sounding this note of caution, a leading environmentalist on Wednesday demanded that New Delhi must make public all the documents on the Tipaimukh hydro-electric project and Dhaka should raise its voice against such an ecologically destructive project in the countrys interest.
We will definitely protest against it in collaboration with the rights groups in India. If the construction of this dam is allowed, it will instigate insurgents like ULFA as we have seen in the past, said Muzaffar Ahmed, president of Bangladesh Paribesh Abdolon, on the sidelines of a roundtable on climate change at the office of the Communist Party of Bangladesh.
Referring to widespread resentment in Manipur and other states of north-eastern India caused by the planned mega-project, he warned that Bangladesh might be a victim of the socio-economic repercussions of the dam.
I talked to Medha Patkar [environmental campaigner] who has called for resistance against such a dangerous project through people-to-people contact, said Muzaffar, adding that the Indian civil society organisations would extend their support to those who oppose the building of the dam.
Citing the example of the Farakka Barrage that has deprived Bangladesh its due share of water, he predicted that the Tipaimukh dam would allow hardly any flow of water during the dry season and eject excess water during the rainy season, leading to drought and flood respectively.
We have had a bitter experience with regard to the Kaptai Dam project that created a social crisis and led to displacement of the ethnic minority people. Whatever profit India wants to make by generating 50,000 megawatts of electricity will eventually result in devastating consequences for the people in this part of the world, said Muzaffar.
The meeting, presided over by CPBs president Manjurul Ahsan Khan, called for preparation of a peoples charter incorporating various aspects of the effects of climate change and the measures to mitigate them.
Political parties should play an enhanced role in promoting the countrys cause in an issue which is a question of life and death for us. But it is solvable, he said.
National
Staff Correspondent
Commissioning of the planned Tipaimukh dam by India will escalate socio-economic and political tension in Indias north-eastern states and also Bangladesh, and imperil the ecology of the region, green campaigners said.
After sounding this note of caution, a leading environmentalist on Wednesday demanded that New Delhi must make public all the documents on the Tipaimukh hydro-electric project and Dhaka should raise its voice against such an ecologically destructive project in the countrys interest.
We will definitely protest against it in collaboration with the rights groups in India. If the construction of this dam is allowed, it will instigate insurgents like ULFA as we have seen in the past, said Muzaffar Ahmed, president of Bangladesh Paribesh Abdolon, on the sidelines of a roundtable on climate change at the office of the Communist Party of Bangladesh.
Referring to widespread resentment in Manipur and other states of north-eastern India caused by the planned mega-project, he warned that Bangladesh might be a victim of the socio-economic repercussions of the dam.
I talked to Medha Patkar [environmental campaigner] who has called for resistance against such a dangerous project through people-to-people contact, said Muzaffar, adding that the Indian civil society organisations would extend their support to those who oppose the building of the dam.
Citing the example of the Farakka Barrage that has deprived Bangladesh its due share of water, he predicted that the Tipaimukh dam would allow hardly any flow of water during the dry season and eject excess water during the rainy season, leading to drought and flood respectively.
We have had a bitter experience with regard to the Kaptai Dam project that created a social crisis and led to displacement of the ethnic minority people. Whatever profit India wants to make by generating 50,000 megawatts of electricity will eventually result in devastating consequences for the people in this part of the world, said Muzaffar.
The meeting, presided over by CPBs president Manjurul Ahsan Khan, called for preparation of a peoples charter incorporating various aspects of the effects of climate change and the measures to mitigate them.
Political parties should play an enhanced role in promoting the countrys cause in an issue which is a question of life and death for us. But it is solvable, he said.
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Do you have trouble typing Farakka??
Yes we should be thankful because our rivers are drying because of that Farakka.
Let's all the Bangladeshis here raise a toast for that success.
well, i always thought flood is the problem for Bangladeshis.............I didnt knew they want more water then the treaty
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well do read the news.................India is not crying alone...............our very good neighbour is sitting next to us
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