India finalises contract with American GE for 99 aircraft engines

[sathya]

30 % more thrust than 414 EPE .. that translates into 115-120..

source is GE website.

i ll very happy if its true..
GE 414 EPE offered to India..?
can u give me the link please.. thankz in advance..

 

[ARCHON]

i ll very happy if its true..
GE 414 EPE offered to India..?
can u give me the link please.. thankz in advance..

General Electric F414 | Slash The Seats

 

[sathya]

Current development
The F414 continues to be improved, both through internal GE efforts and federally funded development programs. By 2006 GE had tested an Enhanced Durability Engine (EDE) with an advanced core. The EDE engine provided a 15% thrust increase or longer life without the thrust increase. It has a six-stage high-pressure compressor (down from 7 stages in the standard F414) and an advanced high-pressure turbine.[6] The new compressor should be about 3% more efficient. The new high pressure turbine uses new materials and a new way of delivering cooling air to the blades. These changes should increase the turbine temperature capability by about 150 °F (66 °C).[7] The EDE is designed to have better foreign object damage resistance, and a reduced fuel burn rate.[8][9]

so what India will get will be EDE or latest EPE..

 

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98 kn wala..

 

[God of Death]

Our LCAs are so very underpowered.

How????????

You should compare it with the similar aircrafts:

pakistan's JF-17 Thunder = 84.5 kN

India's Tejas with GE414 = 98 kN

Facts speaks of themselves.

Now decide it of ur own.

 

[sancho]

LCA MK1 - GE 404 20IN engine with 85kN AB thrust
F18SH - GE 414 engine with 98kN AB thrust
Gripen NG - GE 414G engine with 96kN AB thrust
GE 414 EDE engine, upgrade version for the F18SH for longer life and reduced costs, under develpment
GE 414 EPE engine, upgrade version for the F18SH for increased thrust, only a ground demonstrator engine available until an export customer would fund the development

LCA MK2 will most likely get the same GE 414G engine like the Gripen NG, because India will use it only as a cost-effective stopgap engine and has no intention to pay too high costs.

 

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LCA MK1 - GE 404 20IN engine with 85kN AB thrust
F18SH - GE 414 engine with 98kN AB thrust
Gripen NG - GE 414G engine with 96kN AB thrust
GE 414 EDE engine, upgrade version for the F18SH for longer life and reduced costs, under develpment
GE 414 EPE engine, upgrade version for the F18SH for increased thrust, only a ground demonstrator engine available until an export customer would fund the development

LCA MK2 will most likely get the same GE 414G engine like the Gripen NG, because India will use it only as a cost-effective stopgap engine and has no intention to pay too high costs.

Boeing program vice-president Kory Mathews confirmed that the F414 Enhanced Performance Engine would be the baseline for the company's offer to India. The idea of the engine has been around for some time, but GE is clearly ready to commit the funds necessary to make the engine a reality.

GE rates the new components at a technology readiness level (TRL) of 6 (indicating successful prototype testing) and notes that it has developed 17 new or derivative engines successfully from the same TRL.

The new engine offers up to a 20 percent thrust boost. That would take the EPE up to 26,500 pounds of thrust, giving it the best thrust/weight ratio of any fighter engine -- almost 11:1. Alternatively (an option understood to be attracting interest at Saab) the EPE could be delivered with a 10 percent uprate and very generous temperature margins, extending its life and reducing fighter life-cycle costs.

GE Brings Good Things To Hornet, Gripen

 

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Boeing's Super Hornet seeks export sale to launch 20% thrust upgrade

 

[sancho]

the F414 Enhanced Performance Engine would be the baseline for the company's offer to India.

And it was offered, but since the USN is only funding the EDE, we would have to fund the EPE development:

Video 2, minute 2:08

The navy had a plan for the EPE engine, we did that on the classic one (F18 Hornet), so we developed an EPE motor, not for the navy actually, but for Kuwait, because the high temperature operations wanted more thrust, so we've done this before. For the navy (now coming back to the Super Hornet), will they buy an EPE if somebody else pay to develop it? Yes, but what they probably will do is, to dial it back and just have an extended life.

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