India eyes Malaysian MIG-29s : Alan Warnes

[WarFariX]

Just back from LIMA airshow malaysia 2017 , alan warnes brough much for us to listen to . One news is that india eyes at malaysian used mig-29s

 

[punit]

what !

 

[gslv mk3]

what !

He is a rather biased source. If you know what I mean

 

[Guynextdoor2]

At a time we're worried about what we will replace our MIG 29s with?

 

[gslv mk3]

At a time we're worried about what we will replace our MIG 29s with?

You bought it so easily ?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

You bought it so easily ?

No. I was pointing out the illogicality of the proposal

 

[egodoc222]

Lol...if it was mirage 2k from uae that would've been more believable!

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

I think it could be a proposal to upgrade the Malay 29s as the Indian Air Force's upg program will be completed in the coming years.
Also, there could be discussions about maintenance and training.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

He is a rather biased source. If you know what I mean

he had close relations with malaysians.
He may be right. if right than good quick choice to complete 42 squadran strength.

This news does not make sense. Malaysia had openly planned replacement just few weeks ago. would take place by 2020. while india is planning to get rid of mig 29 by 2024.
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the Edge markets last week.

Therefore, at the moment, there is no particular budget allocated for the new aircraft, he added.

In a press conference at the Parliament lobby today, Hishammuddin explained that the choice of vendor for this procurement will depend on the affordability of the package offered, and the technical suitability.

Hishammuddin also said the RMAF itself will also make a decision as to which new aircraft it wants.

“The technical side of it...the compatibility of the Rafale or the Typhoon...let the end-users decide. Let the air force decide which model they want. The affordability issue is for the MoF (Ministry of Finance) to decide, and then [there is the issue of] the offset agreement [by the vendor]. What does the industry get from such a major contract?” he said.

Hishammuddin said that while the MiG-29s are ageing, it is important for RMAF to upgrade and maintain its current fleet in order to remain operational until 2020.

 

[Hassan Guy]

2nd hand soviet era Mig's

*giggles*

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

2nd hand soviet era Mig's Ilyushins

*giggles*

Corrected.
10Char(Sqn )

 

[Sloth 22]

2nd hand soviet era Mig's

*giggles*

Rich coming from the world renowned 2nd hand buyer of Mirage ROSE and F Solas....

The Mig29 UPG are yet much better than the best of these two aircrafts.

At a time we're worried about what we will replace our MIG 29s with?

We are worried to replace the Mig 21...
We bought licence production of RD33 Series 3 engines to support the upgrade of our Mig29s.

They will serve us till 2030.

 

[Indian wonk]

Wrong news Malaysia is itself upgrading its Mig 29s to MiG-29SM level with a 6000 hrs airframe life which is still inferior to the Indian Mig 29K standards .
Russia during LIMA 2017 has proposed to upgrade Malaysia's Mig-29s to SM level.
India would never buy inferior second hand aircraft who have less than 2000 hrs of airframe life left .
Anyways IAF hates Mig-29s


LIMA 2017: Could Malaysian MiG-29s be resurrected?

A Russian-Malaysian joint business effort is offering the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) a life extension option for its decrepit MiG-29N fighter fleet, which now numbers six operational aircraft from a total of 16 originally procured.

Details of upgrade options were revealed at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia.

The effort is between Malaysian-based Aerospace Technology Systems Corporation (ATSC) and Russian-based RAC MiG, and it aims to rescue the fighter fleet before being retired by the air force's recapitalisation via the Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) programme.

According to an ATSC source, two options are being offered. The first, based on India's MiG-29UPG programme, is the MiG-29NM, and the second is the less muscular MiG-29SM programme.

The MiG-29NM would include a high-resolution FGM-229 fire control radar featuring longer operating ranges, multi-channel firing and advanced air-to-surface modes. Cockpit and ergonomic enhancements include a new, but unidentified, avionics system, two coloured multifunction displays and night vision goggles compatible for night operations.

Other improvements include a data link, electronic countermeasures, conformal fuel tanks and a new ventral fuel tank. These tanks would increase operational range by 30%. Weapon and combat commonality with the Su-30MKM would allow the NM to carry a full range of air-to-air and air-to-ground munitions, including the R-27ER, R-73E and R-77AE.

The NM airframe life would be extended by a claimed 6,000 flight hours.

The MiG-29SM programme was less transparent, but the ATSC source said it is based on an upgrade option offered to Myanmar. Details are wanting, but the SM variant would achieve weapons and combat commonality with the RMAF's Su-30MKM.

The MRCA programme has been delayed since 2011 because of budgetary restrictions, but sources at LIMA expect a budget allocation for new fighters in 2020.

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-notes/lima-2017-could-malaysian-mig-29s-be-resurrected/



Russia to upgrade Malaysia's Mig-29s

https://sputniknews.com/military/201703231051878153-mig28n-russia-malaysia/

http://russianconstruction.com/news...to-enhance-combat-capabilities-of-mig-29.html

 

[Basel]

Wrong news Malaysia is itself upgrading its Mig 29s to MiG-29SM level with a 6000 hrs airframe life which is still inferior to the Indian Mig 29K standards .
Russia during LIMA 2017 has proposed to upgrade Malaysia's Mig-29s to SM level.
India would never buy inferior second hand aircraft who have less than 2000 hrs of airframe life left .
Anyways IAF hates Mig-29s


LIMA 2017: Could Malaysian MiG-29s be resurrected?

A Russian-Malaysian joint business effort is offering the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) a life extension option for its decrepit MiG-29N fighter fleet, which now numbers six operational aircraft from a total of 16 originally procured.

Details of upgrade options were revealed at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia.

The effort is between Malaysian-based Aerospace Technology Systems Corporation (ATSC) and Russian-based RAC MiG, and it aims to rescue the fighter fleet before being retired by the air force's recapitalisation via the Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) programme.

According to an ATSC source, two options are being offered. The first, based on India's MiG-29UPG programme, is the MiG-29NM, and the second is the less muscular MiG-29SM programme.

The MiG-29NM would include a high-resolution FGM-229 fire control radar featuring longer operating ranges, multi-channel firing and advanced air-to-surface modes. Cockpit and ergonomic enhancements include a new, but unidentified, avionics system, two coloured multifunction displays and night vision goggles compatible for night operations.

Other improvements include a data link, electronic countermeasures, conformal fuel tanks and a new ventral fuel tank. These tanks would increase operational range by 30%. Weapon and combat commonality with the Su-30MKM would allow the NM to carry a full range of air-to-air and air-to-ground munitions, including the R-27ER, R-73E and R-77AE.

The NM airframe life would be extended by a claimed 6,000 flight hours.

The MiG-29SM programme was less transparent, but the ATSC source said it is based on an upgrade option offered to Myanmar. Details are wanting, but the SM variant would achieve weapons and combat commonality with the RMAF's Su-30MKM.

The MRCA programme has been delayed since 2011 because of budgetary restrictions, but sources at LIMA expect a budget allocation for new fighters in 2020.

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-notes/lima-2017-could-malaysian-mig-29s-be-resurrected/



Russia to upgrade Malaysia's Mig-29s

https://sputniknews.com/military/201703231051878153-mig28n-russia-malaysia/

http://russianconstruction.com/news...to-enhance-combat-capabilities-of-mig-29.html

Its in this context.

https://twitter.com/x/status/845882864323497984

https://twitter.com/x/status/845958307177213952

https://twitter.com/x/status/845948862099542016

https://twitter.com/x/status/845960184849686528

 

[Indian wonk]

Its in this context.

Just 1 tweet thats it.

No Indian defence journos are reporting it. Why would India buy secondhand planes with less than 2000 hrs of airframe life left in them , we are not desperate for funds. Russians proposed Mig-35 recently we politely rejected it because they are inferior.