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India Expands To Face China

January 28, 2013:
The Indian Army wants $3.5 billion, in order to create three more brigades (two infantry and one armored) to defend the Chinese border. Actually, this new force is in addition to the new mountain corps (of 80,000 troops) nearing approval (at a cost of $11.5 billion). The mountain corps is to be complete in four years. The three proposed brigades would be ready in 4-5 years. By the end of the decade India will have spent nearly five billion dollars on new roads, rail lines, and air fields near the 4,057 kilometer long Chinese border.

The Indian Army currently has 37 Divisions, including 4 RAPID (Reorganised Army Plains Infantry Divisions) Action Divisions, 18 Infantry Divisions, 10 Mountain Divisions, 3 Armored Divisions, and 2 Artillery Divisions. There are also 12 independent combat brigades (five armor and seven mechanized infantry). Most of the army has been organized and trained to fight the Pakistani army in flat terrain. The Chinese border is largely mountainous.

Three years ago India quietly built and put into service an airfield for transports in the north (Uttarakhand) near their border with China. While the airfield can also be used to bring in urgently needed supplies for local civilians during those months when snow blocks the few roads, it is mainly there for military purposes in case China invades again. Uttarakhand is near Kashmir and a 38,000 square kilometer chunk of land that China seized after a brief war with India in 1962. This airfield and several similar projects along the Chinese border are all about growing fears of continued Chinese claims on Indian territory. India is alarmed at increasing strident Chinese insistence that is owns northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh. This has led to an increased movement of Indian military forces to that remote area.

India quickly discovered that a buildup in these remote areas is easier said than done. Moreover, the Indians found that they were far behind Chinese efforts. When they took a closer look three years ago, Indian staff officers discovered that China had improved its road network along most of their 4,000 kilometer common border. Indian military planners calculated that, as a result of this network, Chinese military units could move 400 kilometers a day on hard surfaced roads, while Indian units could only move half as fast, while suffering more vehicle damage because of the many unpaved roads. Building more roads will take years. The roads are essential to support Indian plans to build more airfields near the border and stationing modern fighters there. Once the terrain was surveyed and calculations completed, it was found that it would take a lot more time, because of the need to build maintenance facilities, roads to move in fuel and supplies, and housing for military families.

All these border disputes have been around for centuries but became more immediate when India and China fought a short war, up in these mountains, in 1962. The Indians lost and are determined not to lose a rematch. But so far, the Indians have been falling farther behind China. This situation developed because India, decades ago, decided that one way to deal with a Chinese invasion was to make it difficult for them to move forward. Thus, for decades, the Indians built few roads on their side of the border. But that also made it more difficult for Indian forces to get into the disputed areas.

The source of the current border tension goes back a century and heated up when China resumed its control over Tibet in the 1950s. From the end of the Chinese empire in 1912 up until 1949 Tibet had been independent. But when the communists took over China in 1949, they sought to reassert control over their "lost province" of Tibet. This began slowly, but once all of Tibet was under Chinese control in 1959, China once again had a border with India and there was immediately a disagreement about exactly where the border should be. That’s because, in 1914, the newly independent government of Tibet worked out a border (the McMahon line) with the British (who controlled India). China considers this border agreement illegal and wants 90,000 square kilometers back. India refused, especially since this would mean losing much of the state of Arunachal Pradesh in northeastern India and some bits elsewhere in the area.

Putting more roads into places like Arunachal Pradesh (83,000 square kilometers and only a million people) and Uttarakhand (53,566 square kilometers and ten million people) will improve the economy, as well as military capabilities. This will be true of most of the border area. But all the roads won't change the fact that most of the border is mountains, the highest mountains (the Himalayas) in the world. So no matter how much you prepare for war, no one is going very far, very fast, when you have to deal with these mountains.

India has moved several infantry divisions, several squadrons of Su-30 fighters, and six of the first eight squadrons of its new Akash air defense missile systems to the Chinese border. Most of these initially went into Assam, just south of Arunachal Pradesh, until the road network is built up sufficiently to allow bases to be maintained closer to the border.

All this is another example of the old saying that amateurs (and politicians) talk tactics, while professionals talk logistics. China realized this first and has built 58,000 kilometers of roads to the Indian border, along with five airbases and several rail lines. Thus China can move thirty divisions to the border, which is three times more than India can get to its side of the frontier.
 
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The forum section world affair should be renamed to Beijingwalker's world affair.... You are here day and night.... i guess you are jobless or may be its your job.... 90percent of your post are on india and 10percent on america, japan, vietnaam etc etc.... Look at world affair posts. Majority of them are on so mighty china is and rest are insects.... its other way around in reality. China got tonnes of problems. Hightlight them instead of highlighting other countries problems.... Stop spreading hatred here (unless its your job)....
 
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The forum section world affair should be renamed to Beijingwalker's world affair.... You are here day and night....
LOL,I take it as a compliment and sometimes I do hope that this is my job,ha,just kidding.
 
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Yes, that how Beijingwalker sees the world!

ha,it's better than the way your Vietnamese see the world.your so called the third most powerful military power in the world,lol..I do have respect for India,it's a great civilization and the country did a lot for the civilization development of mankind,but I have no respect for you Vietnam,a good for nothing nation.

Where is the source of the article.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htworld/articles/20130128.aspx
 
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All this is another example of the old saying that amateurs (and politicians) talk tactics, while professionals talk logistics. China realized this first and has built 58,000 kilometers of roads to the Indian border, along with five airbases and several rail lines. Thus China can move thirty divisions to the border, which is three times more than India can get to its side of the frontier.
India is completely outclassed again. It's more obvious than ever.

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Thanks for the input, I will put these points.
1) India's economic boom started in early 2000s, so will need time to match border infrastructure in LAC and Mc Mohun Line.
2) Pakistan is busy in war on terror, so our full focus is on our border with China. Tiny border skirmishes with Pakistan can't deviate us. China failed to use Pakistan against India.
3) Himalayas are not as big as Tibet in area, so we aren't going to need that much km of roads in Himalayan region
 
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ha,it's better than the way your Vietnamese see the world.your so called the third most powerful military power in the world,lol..I do have respect for India,it's a great civilization and the country did a lot for the civilization development of mankind,
but I have no respect for you Vietnam,a good for nothing nation.

No, that´s how China sees the world: first is China, then comes nothing, last is the rest of Asia. As usual you speak full of rubbish. Seems Chinese have some mental problems nowadays.
 
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Faced with a China that is aggressively pursuing its territorial interests in the South and East China Seas, Japan and India on Tuesday decided to coordinate moves and exercises in the first ever maritime dialogue held here.

The India-Japan maritime dialogue was decided during a meeting of foreign ministers last April. Interestingly, India decided to hold a maritime dialogue with China over a month before the India-Japan decision. The Indian move to start talks with Japan ahead of the dialogue with Beijing points to a stress on New Delhi's security priorities.

The Indian side was led by D B Venkatesh Varma, who leads the division on disarmament and international security in the ministry of external affairs (MEA), and included officials from ministries of defence, coast guard, shipping and earth sciences. The Japanese side was led by Kazuyuki Yamazaki, from their foreign office and comprised officials from ministries of shipping, economy, Coast Guard, etc.

India and Japan are likely to conduct more joint naval exercises building on the first such bilateral exercise that was held off the Japanese coast last year. Similar exercises are likely in the Indian Ocean off the Somalia coast as well.

Japan also gave an elaborate update of their simmering dispute with China on the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands. The new Chinese president, Xi Jinping, re-emphasized China's "core" interests in his maiden foreign policy speech on Tuesday, indicating a more "robust" posture.

"No foreign country should ever nurse hopes that we will bargain over our core national interests, and nor should they nurse hopes that we will swallow the bitter fruit of harm to our country's sovereignty, security and development interests," Xi was quoted as saying.

Most analysts agree that this particular dispute has the potential to spiral out of control. With India increasing its naval footprint in the South China Sea, and coming up against Chinese expansionism, particularly affecting its oil interests in that region, India appears to have made common cause with Japan. Both countries say they want the UNCLOS and rule of law to be the core of their common approach.

In the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), India has ramped up anti-piracy initiatives, where New Delhi and Tokyo plan to work more closely together, including coordinating on rescue attempts. In the multilateral arena, India and Japan plan to work together and coordinate positions in ARF, EAS and ADMM+ fora.
 
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The forum section world affair should be renamed to Beijingwalker's world affair.... You are here day and night.... i guess you are jobless or may be its your job.... 90percent of your post are on india and 10percent on america, japan, vietnaam etc etc.... Look at world affair posts. Majority of them are on so mighty china is and rest are insects.... its other way around in reality. China got tonnes of problems. Hightlight them instead of highlighting other countries problems.... Stop spreading hatred here (unless its your job)....
What do you expect? He's from the CCP Ltd - no, not the Chinese Communist Party but from the Clowns and Clowns Private Ltd, a company specializing in spewing nonsensical baloney which the Hans are experts at!!! :partay:
 
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What do you expect? He's from the CCP Ltd - no, not the Chinese Communist Party but from the Clowns and Clowns Private Ltd, a company specializing in spewing nonsensical baloney which the Hans are experts at!!! :partay:

lol,I can see your frustration,at least my "company"only discusses posts but not posters.that later is what your company can do the best.
 
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Faced with a China that is aggressively pursuing its territorial interests in the South and East China Seas, Japan and India on Tuesday decided to coordinate moves and exercises in the first ever maritime dialogue held here....


Your artical has nothing to do with this thread, I'm pretty sure that China has similar interest with some of South Asians countries in Indian Ocean, we just couldn't find a better excuse.
 
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