India did it all Eons Ago Cars, Stem Cell research & All that

[Skull and Bones]

That is why I want a genuine debate over the vedas.Everybody knows that they have been systematically modified with time.

Yes, that would be fruitful. A debate with scientists to judge the plausibility of the claims in the book. It should be noted that, humans are imaginative creatures, and has been historically known to mix fact with fiction to gain more audience for their stories. As no one is interested in plain tasteless documentaries.

So every claim has to be judge with skepticism and counter arguments, rather than surrendering yourself to the belief.

 

[Contrarian]

well its your belief, and I dont want to argue about belief. Its counterintutive to believe that people of antiquity had more scientific knowledge than us, because knowledge is built upon previous knowledge.
Unless it is revealed to them by alien or some supernatural entity I dont see how that is possible. Also I have rarely seen instances of book / scripture that describes something which is completely new knowledge to us.

The current scientific knowledge of Indians is accumulated knowledge of all the civilizations and its difficult to believe that people in those age had advanced communication technology / storage technology that would have helped in storing and disseminating knowledge.

No, but it was new knowledge to us now, but it was new knowledge till the 1950's-60's. The books and scriptures mention many things which science has not been able to accomplish(accomplish here implies achieved, not theoretically but practically) but will do so undoubtedly in the future.

 

[Skull and Bones]

But there's a huge difference between creating a complex geared system to predict astronomical movements and achieving powered flight.

Exactly.

That is what i was trying to imply, isolated mechanics, mathematics and biology can be well within the grasp of the civilizations. But if someone claims that there has been powered flights, atomic weapons, stem cells and shits, he will have to stand in front of the firing squad of logic and rationality.

No, but it was new knowledge to us now, but it was new knowledge till the 1950's-60's. The books and scriptures mention many things which science has not been able to accomplish(accomplish here implies achieved, not theoretically but practically) but will do so undoubtedly in the future.

Can you cite some examples?

 

[Contrarian]

Can you cite some examples?

Not really. Dont feel like researching in detail right now and posting skull. Another day maybe.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Not really. Dont feel like researching in detail right now and posting skull. Another day maybe.

Sure, i'm eager to learn new stuffs.

 

[Star Wars]

Ayurveda was good maybe 500 years back,,,not anymore

I still use Ayurveda , i found it to be far better than homeopathy ...

 

[Indischer]

Hey - I agree with you, actually on this point. I won't generalize because there were more designs in it, but the one you quoted above (Vaimanik Shastra thingy) would never be fly worthy (without a large number of downward thrust boosters). Swim - may be

But check the Rukma Vimana design - The ISRO Bangalore concluded that this was the only one realistic design. Quite futuristic actually.


I learnt it the hard way

The Vaimanika Shastras themselves were written down (no ancient, original source) twenty years after Wright brothers achieved their historic success. By that time, already, WW-1 had given a massive impetus to manned flight and newer planes were constantly raising the bar. It isn't hence implausible to think that Mr Subbaraya Shastry, the author of this manuscript, could have got hold of rudimentary understanding of flight dynamics and decided to use the same in his work.

 

[he-man]

I still use Ayurveda , i found it to be far better than homeopathy ...

Both are uber crap...........

 

[Skull and Bones]

Both are uber crap...........

Ayurveda is still good for petty things like teenage pimples. Somebody ask his age.

 

[Star Wars]

Sure, i'm eager to learn new stuffs.

Just a small tidbit do you know Sanskrit called earth Bhugol Bhu as in Bhumi , Gol as in Round ..

Ayurveda is still good for petty things like teenage pimples. Somebody ask his age.

pimples

 

[he-man]

Ayurveda is still good for petty things like teenage pimples. Somebody ask his age.

Nope.........

 

[Skull and Bones]

Just a small tidbit do you know Sanskrit called earth Bhugol Bhu as in Bhumi , Gol as in Round ..

I remember, we used to call our Geography subject as 'Bhugol', and the concept of spherical earth is not revolutionary. It was subdued by the pressure from the church. The first western recorded mention of spherical earth was done by 'Eratosthenes', at about 300 BC and calculated the circumference of earth. History suggests, the concept might be 1000 BC old.

Nope.........

On a grander scale, both are placebo.

 

[Indischer]

That is why I want a genuine debate over the vedas.Everybody knows that they have been systematically modified with time.

What modifications are you talking about? They have been passed on intact orally for at least 4000 years or more. The Brahmin in UP learns the same mantra as the Brahmin in some remote corner of Kerala.

 

[Star Wars]

Anyone heard of the Kataypayadi Encryption system ?

 

[he-man]

I remember, we used to call our Geography subject as 'Bhugol', and the concept of spherical earth is not revolutionary. It was subdued by the pressure from the church. The first western recorded mention of spherical earth was done by 'Eratosthenes', at about 300 BC and calculated the circumference of earth. History suggests, the concept might be 1000 BC old.



On a grander scale, both are placebo.

Nope,,,ayurveda is not placebo.
Homeopathy indeed is