Another one, don't know how true it is but in many rituals there is frequent mention of 9 planets and I believe they are in our rituals for quite some time.Just a small tidbit do you know Sanskrit called earth Bhugol Bhu as in Bhumi , Gol as in Round ..
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Another one, don't know how true it is but in many rituals there is frequent mention of 9 planets and I believe they are in our rituals for quite some time.
Pick up a history book and try to read it and not skim through it. After the Naploeonic wars, the Germans had more than broken the hegemony of France as a Global power for decades. That leading up to WWI was them projecting power when Germany and Russia picked separate sides. After Versailles, Hitler dismissing some of the major points of the treaty and rearming and increasing military projection in the face of French concerns was projecting power. The Greeks projected power and now they are bankrupt, doesn't mean the world credits them any less for their contributions to human development. You should seriously consider not being personal and add some substance to your post.You say you are a man of science. I can excuse your ignorance in history. Though common sense would have taught you otherwise. It's like because Germans were defeated in WW2 means that they could 'never project any power'.Hilarious actually.
Porus lost the war, Alexander returned as he lacked the manpower and his army was facing battle fatigue.
I have not read about Qasim losing 17 times. Please quote a source for this.
geography again. Charles Martel defeated the Moors. There was Reconquista. Al-andulas was a Muslim victory, Reconquista was Christian. What is your point?
huh!?
ok. to each his own then. You can be emotional about it. I see no reason to give anything more credit than it deserves.Bottomline: It's relative actually. You may find a hundred odd reasons to hate your ancestors, I will have a thousand to be proud of them (without being mutually exclusive).
Such a clever usage of English idioms. Good show!Pot calling kettle black
You have a lot of time at hand.I did not find these in the book!
Exactly. All this Hindu and India's past makes me cringe. Without Mughals we would never have had a country. But for the British we would never have had education.
Just take a look at the Taj Mahal or the Parliament building itself. The ugly mandirs and destroyed Nalanda are a pathetic sight in comparison.
All these Hindus want is to take us back to the savage days of the Mahabharata
There were never anything called bharatiyas. There were Dravidians who were pushed back and butchered by Aryans who brought some semblance of civilization.
There is nothing to support anything, because Hindus/utvas are incapable of anything but chest thumping.
True. We are just copy cats. Even our agricultural tools are borrowed. And guess what - we did not improve that either. Before the Mughals and other Sultanates came what were we? Vagabonds and cave dwellers living on forest produce alone.
And let not the Hindutvas bring their vast array of Shastras (on practically every discipline including Society, War, Culture and even Sex) which they claim to speak about a social system. In fact they were compiled entirely by Persians and Europeans and all we did was print an old date and claim it to be dated to 1000BC
Contribution to improve people's lives holds more water when you talk of evaluating a civilization/culture's true success.Even Ashoka did not have a social system in place - the pillars with his edicts were a fiction planted by the British to build a pan Indian identity. We never had any ancient Indian scientists, philosophers, etc till perhaps al Biruni. But wait he was Persian.We did not even have a language until the Mughals invented Urdu. Before that what was here? Sign language that we claim to be Sanskrit.
Oh wait, it is almost a dead language, being spoken in only two villages in India. Still the Fascist Hindus promote it as the ancient Indian language, while Pakistanis should have the sole legitmate claim on it.
you do know that a lot of contributions you wrote about had Buddhists behind them right?Hindus
You have perhaps made the first and only genuine hole in the argument.The previous naysayers were so ridiculous.
One word - duh.
You never leave an opportunity to showcase your heavy vocabulary. I take this opportunity to salute you good sir.One word - duh.
It's not you. You are more balanced. I appreciate opinions from all extremes of the spectrum. But some are act more like sophisticated trolls. Skull is also correct.@SarthakGanguly if sarcasm can prove the opposite, then I am the most stupid poster here, ban me..
to repeate what skull said, nobody is taking away achievements of vedic people, or greeks, or sumerians.. but to say we did it all already is really stupid.
BTW the skeptic mind of the same people kicks in if person of a rival civilization makes similar claims.
Vaimanik Shastra is a joke. God knows why the academics take it seriously. I mean it was created in the 20s more God's sake. As if adding the word Shastra makes it older.
Ahh. Che thanking a space cat.
Life is good.
Another one, don't know how true it is but in many rituals there is frequent mention of 9 planets and I believe they are in our rituals for quite some time.
This is one thing which makes me think ancient Indians were much more technologically advanced than us..
Another example is this (aranmula Kannadi)
The problem with ancient Indians is that instead of writing it down, all the knowledge was shared to students through vocal.. I am not sure about aeroplane or hydrogen bomb but there were things our ancestors did which we should be very proud of..
This whole thread is a waste of time.................i think we still have little clue about nano tech,,,forget 4000 years ago
Someone told me tot was a reference to 9 planets but I do t know whether it is true or not...
This is one thing which makes me think ancient Indians were much more technologically advanced than us..
Another example is this (aranmula Kannadi)
The problem with ancient Indians is that instead of writing it down, all the knowledge was shared to students through vocal.. I am not sure about aeroplane or hydrogen bomb but there were things our ancestors did which we should be very proud of..
