India did it all Eons Ago Cars, Stem Cell research & All that

[Skull and Bones]

There are deicated books on viman shastra. Even National geography has documentary on same. You can search it. I have watched that documentary. Even IIT (I forget which) had one interaction with one scholar of ancient Indology scholar on Viman shastra.

Brahmastra is known to everybody. No need to say anything more.

However I have never heard of Car in ancient India.

Nat Geo, Discovery also shows stories on Aliens, Time Travels, Ghosts, and Justin Beiber.

 

[HariPrasad]

Nat Geo, Discovery also shows stories on Aliens, Time Travels, Ghosts, and Justin Beiber.

Here they quotes the ancient text with diagram and its content. It is different from alien story.

In Ramayan, Ram came back from his 14 year vanvas by a plane called Pushpak. Ravan took sita to Lanka in a plane. You should at least accept that Concept of Plane is thousands of years old in India.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Bro you may be wrong here.... there are few things we must acknowledge....

• Surgery - they exist in past and the process and equipment used today are mere evolution of actions taken in past. Please note that Ayurveda is a very good medical system almost killed by our own people. FYI I had a Allergy from dust and Pollen spend lot to cure at big hospitals and finally cured by Indian traditional medicines.

I concur your views on the same, even my skin disease got cured by Ayurveda. But did ayurveda had it's impact on a glabal scale? No.

• Metallurgy - the process of extraction of basic metals remains more and less same what we had in past. Extraction of iron from ore did not change much except for better equipment - again evolution process

You cannot say for sure metallurgy techniques originated from India, neither can deny that. Extraction of pure gold, silver, copper dates back to more than 10000 BC. While extraction of iron dates back to 3500 BC, and originated at different civilization at more or less on a definite time, without the civilizations getting in contact or sharing ideas because of the intermediate distance. The recorded use of iron was done by egyptians, they used meteorite iron for making daggers.

Here they quotes the ancient text with diagram and its content. It is different from alien story.

In Ramayan, Ram came back from his 14 year vanvas by a plane called Pushpak. Ravan took sita to Lanka in a plane. You should at least accept that Concept of Plane is thousands of years old in India.

The concept of plane dates thousand years back, not only in India, but also in Egyptian, Mayan and several other civilizations. While Mayan aircraft has more plausibility.

 

[sms]

I concur your views on the same, even my skin disease got cured by Ayurveda. But did ayurveda had it's impact on a glabal scale? No.

I was talking about the way surgery is done today is an evolution process of practices in past. So does it has an impact on what we do today - Yes!

You cannot say for sure metallurgy techniques originated from India, neither can deny that. Extraction of pure gold, silver, copper dates back to more than 10000 BC. While extraction of iron dates back to 3500 BC, and originated at different civilization at more or less on a definite time, without the civilizations getting in contact or sharing ideas because of the intermediate distance. The recorded use of iron was done by egyptians, they used meteorite iron for making daggers.

Again, I was answering your question... methods used today are not radically different from what was done thousands of years back - So, does nay thing from past had an impact on methods of metal extraction used toady -- Yes

 

[scorpionx]

There are deicated books on viman shastra. Even National geography has documentary on same. You can search it. I have watched that documentary. Even IIT (I forget which) had one interaction with one scholar of ancient Indology scholar on Viman shastra.

Brahmastra is known to everybody. No need to say anything more.

However I have never heard of Car in ancient India.

Since the Greek campaigns and diplomatic intercourse that started rightly after the death of Alexander, history of India although not in a professional manner but more or less effectively was recorded by several Greek, Chinese and Arab chroniclers. Before that period, from the coins, trade seals and cuneiform inscriptions, we get a very vague but modest idea about the trade and commercial intercourse between Indus civilization with the other contemporary civilization in the near west like the Mesopotamian, Sumerian and Egyptians almost five thousand years ago.

The earliest written documentation of the Aryan life (i.e Rg Veda) does not mention any such of aviation technology to be used by the early settlers on the bank of river Sindhu. The first mention of such technology that with every possibility born with the writer's imagination can be traced in the epics. Historians struggle to date these epics and puranas, but they were written much latter, perhaps between 100 BCE to 200 CE. And remind you, epics are not history. Just like Iliad they are mythological stories devoid of any scientific/ archaeological backings.

So, we cannot with any sanguinity on the basis of such imaginative works say that we invented any such flying mechanism. The procedure to build one aeroplane based upon the theories as stated in Vaimanika Shastra has already proven to be an infeasible and impractical design by Indian scientists only. It violates every explained principle of physics and aerodynamics. You can read it with curiosity but you can not make it fly. Mere a television programme on National Geographic does not bolster its credibility at all.

In my opinion, we should give our ancestors the credit that is due and they truly deserve (Mathematics, astronomy and Ayurveda) ; Except that this kind of unnecessary exaggeration about their works brings more amusement than respect.

 

[HariPrasad]

Since the Greek campaigns and diplomatic intercourse that started rightly after the death of Alexander, history of India although not in a professional manner but more or less effectively was recorded by several Greek, Chinese and Arab chroniclers. Before that period, from the coins, trade seals and cuneiform inscriptions, we get a very vague but modest idea about the trade and commercial intercourse between Indus civilization with the other contemporary civilization in the near west like the Mesopotamian, Sumerian and Egyptians almost five thousand years ago.

The earliest written documentation of the Aryan life (i.e Rg Veda) does not mention any such of aviation technology to be used by the early settlers on the bank of river Sindhu. The first mention of such technology that with every possibility born with the writer's imagination can be traced in the epics. Historians struggle to date these epics and puranas, but they were written much latter, perhaps between 100 BCE to 200 CE. And remind you, epics are not history. Just like Iliad they are mythological stories devoid of any scientific/ archaeological backings.

So, we cannot with any sanguinity on the basis of such imaginative works say that we invented any such flying mechanism. The procedure to build one aeroplane based upon the theories as stated in Vaimanika Shastra has already proven to be an infeasible and impractical design by Indian scientists only. It violates every explained principle of physics and aerodynamics. Mere a television programme on National Geographic does not bolster its credibility at all.

In my opinion, we should give our ancestors the credit that is due and they truly deserve (Mathematics, astronomy and Ayurveda) ; Except that this kind of unnecessary exaggeration about their works brings more amusement than respect.

There can always be 2 opinion. However you should atleast accept that the concept of Viman was already there.

 

[scorpionx]

There can always be 2 opinion. However you should atleast accept that the concept of Viman was already there.

It was always there. Right from the cave arts of Spain

 

[HariPrasad]

It was always there. Right from the cave arts of Spain

OK.

 

[paritosh]

Couldn't understand this.

Its not just the Khanda, our entire doctrine of warfare in the ancient world was outdated and not practical.
The Kshatriya's 'Dharma' was an honorable code but had gaping holes which were exploited by the invading armies.
--> no fighting after sunset
--> no striking at the back of an enemy
--> Giving respect to the prisoners

They were romantic concepts, but caused great harm. Even Prithvi Chauhan flirted with these romantic ideas with Ghauri.

Khanda ideally required a challenger and was used in a duel. Kshatriyas tried to use it as a last resort weapon as well when surrounded by rotating the heavy khanda rapidly. It used to tired them and they would be killed.

 

[Star Wars]

@Skull and Bones MOhanjadaro and Harrapa are also said to be heavily Radioactive . Anyway way that can be explained ?

Its not just the Khanda, our entire doctrine of warfare in the ancient world was outdated and not practical.
The Kshatriya's 'Dharma' was an honorable code but had gaping holes which were exploited by the invading armies.
--> no fighting after sunset
--> no striking at the back of an enemy
--> Giving respect to the prisoners

They were romantic concepts, but caused great harm. Even Prithvi Chauhan flirted with these romantic ideas with Ghauri.
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That was the problem with us , we were honorable people . was never prepared to deal with raping,pillaging barbarians.

Khanda from what i heard was a heavy two handed weapon . These weapons were not for duel but each weapon has its purpose, Two handed swords could quiet easily cut limbs, slash through leather or even penetrate through butted chain mail .
Lighter swords don't mean better weapon. Each weapon has its own uses. Heavy two Handed axes for example could break through shields or severely damage the arm holding the shield..

@Skull and Bones @Indrani @Sartak_Ganguly @HariPrasad @HariPrasad @scorpionx

One of the objects found was dated at 7500BC

 

[Star Wars]

 

[scorpionx]

@Star Wars

There is not a single evidence that Mahenjodaro site is radioactive. It is more like an urban myth without any worthy substantial proof.

As far as the videos are concerned, who is Graham Hancock actually? Who is he if not just more than a conspiracy theorist? When the archaeologists in the first video themselves are not convinced about the dating (one even pointed out to 800-1400 AD) he is still believing in his 8000 BC theory. No doubt there is every signature of a sophisticated city lying beneath the water there but that do not still proves that it belong to 8000 BC period. It is just a hoax.

 

[Star Wars]

@Star Wars

There is not a single evidence that Mahenjodaro site is radioactive. It is more like an urban myth without any worthy substantial proof.

Best answer would be i don't know because there are too many sources saying otherwise..

As far as the videos are concerned, who is Graham Hancock actually? Who is he if not just more than a conspiracy theorist?

Everything beyond your scope of belief is conspiracy theory . Countless conspiracy theories have been proven to be true overtime. Still certain Gullible people are often proud of using it ..

When the archaeologists in the first video themselves are not convinced about the dating (one even pointed out to 800-1400 AD) he is still believing in his 8000 BC theory. No doubt there is every signature of a sophisticated city lying beneath the water there but that do not still proves that it belong to 8000 BC period. It is just a hoax.

Did you even understand the reasoning behind the theory of the civilization being extremely old ?Suggest you watch all the Videos before coming to any conclusion . In the last Video you find out that carbon dating the artifacts found in the area by NIOT found out that some of the artifacts came form 7500BC , which was 9500 years ago. If there is a signature of a city under the water as you agreed then it has to be extremely old. Because cities cannot exist under water unless there was a massive geological event which pushed it under water and there is none of that sort recorded history that too in such a massive scale. yea it all a Hoax

 

[scorpionx]

Best answer would be i don't know because there are too many sources saying otherwise..

Please give a credible source about the radioactivity.

Everything beyond your scope of belief is conspiracy theory . Countless conspiracy theories have been proven to be true overtime. Still certain Gullible people are often proud of using it ..

Graham Hancock is a controversial figure who has his own strange ways to look at things. He is not an archaeologist, Geologist or a decent Historian. I would rather prefer to believe someone more credible rather than an unconventional theorist.

I suggest you watch all the Videos before coming to any conclusion .. In the last Video you find out that carbon dating the artifacts found in the area by NIOT found out that some of the artifacts came form 7500BC , which was 9500 years ago.

There area being excavated here was a maritime station that traded with the different regions of West Asia and Africa for several thousand years. So, definitely some of the discovered artifacts that we see here will belong to a much older period. By the way, I am giving a link from NIO only. What they say about the dating of the submerged structures is it might not be as old as it was suggested before. A stone block with Gujarati script belongs to much later period than assumed by conspiracy theorists. Stone anchors found in Bet Dwaraka mostly belong to the period during 800 AD to 1500 AD when Indo Arab maritime trade was at their peak. Graham Hancock is certainly going to be disappointed.

PS: It is necessary to read what L B kenny has stated about the methodology applied here. Kindly do not over look it.

http://drs.nio.org/drs/bitstream/2264/507/1/Migration_Diffusion_6_56.pdf

 

[Bang Galore]

The earliest written documentation of the Aryan life (i.e Rg Veda) does not mention any such of aviation technology to be used by the early settlers on the bank of river Sindhu. .

They certainly wouldn't be talking about the banks of the river Sindhu, contrary to common belief, the Sindhu doesn't get the overwhelming attention in the early part of the Rg veda. More Haryana/western U.P. types.