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I get that sir, but does that mean there is no point in planning for the future??
India is hardly like to fight an all out war with Pakistan and China tommorow (the later especially so). The simple fact is that the Indian defece establishment having serious procurement budgets is only a very recent phenomena as such it will take time for the Indian military to enact their plans and get to where they want to be.
The way things stand today is not nessercarily the way things will stand tomorrow or the day after that......
One bad miscalculation on ur part is t-90 tier 2 but al khalid tier 1.T-90 can take on any chinese or pakistani tank any where.we do have around 1000 of them.To compare t-90 to type-96 is incorrect.T-90 can eat that tank for lunch.
Chinese armour also has several design flaws in armour .
AUSTERLITZ Good Question ! But what about Tibet ? Its mountains Too?
Even place like Arunachal,Ladakh ?
In the US, we have M1A2 as Tier 1, M1/M1A1 as tier 2, Selected M60, M2/3 as tier 3.
Indian Classification would be Arjun as T-1, T-90 as T-2, T-72 as T-3
Chinese Classification would be T-99 as T-1, T-96 as Tier 2, T-88, T-79, T-69 as Tier 3
Pakistan classification would be Al-Khalid as T-1, T-80 as T-2, type 85, 69, 55 as Tier 3
When you compare the matrix of Tier 1, you will see you get some 150 Arjun vs some 500 Type 99 and some 300 Al Khalid. Doesn't matter how well you spin your capability, you are running a 1 v 7 odds. For ever 1 shor fire by Arjun there are 7 shot fired from Type 99 and Al-Khalid. Survival rate is not good. However, when you look at supporting roles, this is where you get really alarming when you see 900 T-90 vs ~2000 type 96 and TU-80
Way off.
Firstly, 2/3rds of the 8000-strong Chinese tank force are obsolte T-59/79 tanks. Even modern infantry RPGs can handle these with ease, and they would stand no chance against any modern armour such as the Indian T-90s.
Secondly, the Chinese would be able to send at most a few hundred tanks against India, given the logitical difficulties and terrain, and because they need most of their tnks to defend the rest of their country. Vietnam, Russia and Hong Kong would be delighted if you send 5000 tanks against Ladakh, because we won't even bother with the tanks, we will simply take out their supply lines and roads, and you would end up with thousands of useless tanks with no fuel or ammo, stranded on the mountains.
That is why the Indian deal for 354 T-90MS sepcifically for the North-East. That is the ideal number supported by that front. And superior to anything the Chinese can throw at ot other than the Type-99s. 354 T-90MS and a few hundred T-72 versus even a thousand t-59/79/96 would be a one-sided battle.
So, the way to look at it is, take out 500 T-72 tanks from the current Indian fleet for the Chinese, and then assess vs Pakistan.
And then, your tank classification is way off. It's more relevant to look at it as a 2- tier system, and it is safe to put Khalid / T-90 / T-80 in the same bracket.
Tier 1: about 1,100 Arjun / T-90 (and growing fast) versus 500 Khalid + 320 T-80, a ratio of 1.3 to 1.
Tier 2: 2,418 T-72 (minus 500 for the China front) versus 600 Al-Zarrar, 300 Type-85, 400 Type-69, maybe a few hundred T-59, a ratio of 1.2 to 1.
And two things worth remembering: the stock of tier-1 tanks deployed is increasing much faster on India's side, we should have 2400 by the end of the decade (adding 200-300 Arjun mk-2 and total of 1657 T-90, plus 354 for North-eaast), and will outnumber Pakistan almost 2-1.
And, the quality of India's Tier-2 is far superior. Upgraded T-72, mostly built in the last 25 years, versus a pakistani fleet that is 75% T-69 or T-55 variants that are 40-years old?
@jhungary sir, believe me- I fully understand what you are saying and I'm sure the Indian military have these sort of plans utilising what they have today. Not to mention future plans taking into account future assets. The fact that India is not likely to go to war with either Pakistan or china anytime soon means the Indian military has some room to grow in capabilty and draw up plans.
I don't know what more I can say, year on year the Indian military is absorbing new tech and equipment so their plans are always going to be changing.
Tibet and arunachal is mostly completely mountanous,more importantly its rugged with bad road infrastructure...unfeasible as tank terrain mostly.
Ladakh has flat terrain in places.
Light tanks are possibiity in places.
bro,mistake, arunachal is mountainous, Tibet is mostly plateau ,(thus IA got some tactical edge).
PS I hail from northeast![]()