INDIA-CHINA STANDOFF OUTCOME

[Ganges Zephyr]

Indian and Chinese members, I have opened this thread to discuss what would be the possible outcome of the ongoing standoff between India and China. This is already being discussed in other threads with different headings. It would be good to have the outcome thoughts on a single thread

My opinion is that Indian Government will negotiate through backdoors (Mr. Salman Khursheed is due to visit China on May, 9) giving to some of the Chinese demands for example backing off in SCS etc. and then China would retreat

what are your opinions?????

 

[acid rain]

The chinese are not retreating anytime soon unless India take some proactive steps, these lame MEA jockeys are a joke.

 

[RangerPK]

I guess Chinese have learned to answer the Indians in the same language which Indians speak. Now Indians seem to be bitching about it...

Indians have bad relations with pretty much all their neighbours. Pakistan, Nepal, Kashmir, China, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.
now they seem to be having a taste of their own medicine.

 

[Genesis]

best thing for me is to give Indian the land, with conditions.

China could support Indian seat in Permanent member of UN.

-India must accept Chinese hegemony in the south china sea and break off any military ties to the countries involved until the dispute is solved.

- India must never station troops too close to the new border and any infrastructure must be for economics and not have war waging capabilities.

- India accepts Chinese presents in Pakistan, and will not object to any relationship between China and the rest of Indian neighbors.

- India should allow Chinese weapons to be a competitor in weapons deals.

- India needs to banish all Tibetan government and actively promote Tibet being part of China.

 

[Ganges Zephyr]

best thing for me is to give Indian the land, with conditions.

China could support Indian seat in Permanent member of UN.

-India must accept Chinese hegemony in the south china sea and break off any military ties to the countries involved until the dispute is solved.


- India must never station troops too close to the new border and any infrastructure must be for economics and not have war waging capabilities.

- India accepts Chinese presents in Pakistan, and will not object to any relationship between China and the rest of Indian neighbors.

- India should allow Chinese weapons to be a competitor in weapons deals.

- India needs to banish all Tibetan government and actively promote Tibet being part of China.

All for a piece of small land which can be taken back diplomatically/ forcefully (if not now than future)??

Are you suggesting India should surrender to China

Funny suggestion

Please discuss viable solutions and outcomes and no fanboy-ism

 

[faithfulguy]

The immediate outcome would be India start firing at the Chinese. Anything after that would be anyone's guess. Chinese military is the wild card here. Can they still fight a battle after 30+ years of almost no warfare experience?

 

[acid rain]

best thing for me is to give Indian the land, with conditions.

China could support Indian seat in Permanent member of UN.

-India must accept Chinese hegemony in the south china sea and break off any military ties to the countries involved until the dispute is solved.

- India must never station troops too close to the new border and any infrastructure must be for economics and not have war waging capabilities.

- India accepts Chinese presents in Pakistan, and will not object to any relationship between China and the rest of Indian neighbors.

- India should allow Chinese weapons to be a competitor in weapons deals.

- India needs to banish all Tibetan government and actively promote Tibet being part of China.

LOL, get out of LALA Land.

 

[3Idiots]

Indian and Chinese members, I have opened this thread to discuss what would be the possible outcome of the ongoing standoff between India and China. This is already being discussed in other threads with different headings. It would be good to have the outcome thoughts on a single thread

My opinion is that Indian Government will negotiate through backdoors (Mr. Salman Khursheed is due to visit China on May, 9) giving to some of the Chinese demands for example backing off in SCS etc. and then China would retreat

what are your opinions?????

India govt doesn't seem concerned much, so far.

They are still terming it a localised issue, which can be resolved by negotiations..

Even, I don't think any further action is needed at this point of time. India's response has been measured and mature.

Indo-Tibet border has never been demarkated in history. Though, off course, Ladakh was never a part of Tibet, leave alone china. But htese remain remnants from history.

Neither china nor India can settle these with force. China tried force in 1962 and failed.

If 1962 was a knife, 2013 has still to reach the level of a safety pin.

The only concern would be that knives and safety pins don't end up creating mushroom clouds over Bejing and Delhi.

 

[Spring Onion]

The immediate outcome would be India start firing at the Chinese. Anything after that would be anyone's guess. Chinese military is the wild card here. Can they still fight a battle after 30+ years of almost no warfare experience?

There is a better outcome. India should remove the concret infrastructure (Posts) which it had built in violation of LAC and China will remove the tents.

 

[beijingwalker]

Giving India the land?no way!the land issue is not negotiable.retreating amounts to admitting India's sovereinty over our territory and aggression in nature of our action.that'll deeply cut into our principles and hurt the feelings of our people.

 

[Ganges Zephyr]

There is a better outcome. India should remove the concret infrastructure (Posts) which it had built in violation of LAC and China will remove the tents.

Can you prove/provide a link about the concrete infrastructure mentioned in your post? Also, what you have to say about development on the Chinese side?

 

[acid rain]

Giving India the land?no way!the land issue is not negotiable.retreating amounts to admitting India's sovereinty over our territory and aggression in nature of our action.that'll deeply cut into our principles and hurt the feelings of our people.

The only other option to not giving back our land is war.

 

[Awesome]

Outcome? PLA marches onto New Delhi

 

[Genesis]

All for a piece of small land which can be taken back diplomatically/ forcefully (if not now than future)??

Are you suggesting India should surrender to China

Funny suggestion

Please discuss viable solutions and outcomes and no fanboy-ism

Which of these will not happen eventually?

Are Chinese not going to improve capabilities year by year and the distance between China and its neighbors more and more. To the point of no contest in the South Asia, if not already.

Is China now having troops in "Indian territory" which means Indians can't station troops and build infrastructure anyways?

China will go ahead with any relationship with any country regardless of Indian opinion or has Indian option ever altered Chinese relationship with a country? The massive weapons deals with Pakistan said as much.

Are Chinese weapons not cheaper alternatives with no hikes in price and no delays in deliveries.

Are those Tibetans in India even serving a purpose for India or indeed Tibetan "independence?" They have no money, no real political power, no military power. They destabilizes China less than the Maoists in India.

So which of these conditions are not going to go ahead anyways? While India can have the land and the leaders can use this as victory to run for office again.

 

[Spring Onion]

best thing for me is to give Indian the land, with conditions.

China could support Indian seat in Permanent member of UN.

-India must accept Chinese hegemony in the south china sea and break off any military ties to the countries involved until the dispute is solved.

- India must never station troops too close to the new border and any infrastructure must be for economics and not have war waging capabilities.

- India accepts Chinese presents in Pakistan, and will not object to any relationship between China and the rest of Indian neighbors.

- India should allow Chinese weapons to be a competitor in weapons deals.

- India needs to banish all Tibetan government and actively promote Tibet being part of China.

When China can achieve all that without giving anything to India then whats the need to even bother