India can replace China’s manufacturing by 'daydreaming': Chinese media

[newb3e]

I live in a country (not India), where media is open. We have the courage to investigate our wrongs, prosecute and also apologize for it.. come close to it in few generation if you can before issuing sermons for India and other countries ..

hahaha you uave a sense of humor!! good thing very rare for indians!

india has free media good one bro!

 

[Beast]

If it did suck as much as the CCP chaps claim, 100000 Chinese would not be living in India as refugees.

Lol.. why these 100,000 political criminal want to come back China? They will be jailed under collaboration of dalai lama. Not beautiful life for them.

'By Ching-Tse Cheng, Taiwan News, Staff Writer'

Yes, this is the Chinese media.

The taiwanese are cunning one. They badmouth India under the banner of China to take revenge for their burn factory while try without really offending the Indians with all these insults

 

[mike2000 is back]

India can replace China’s manufacturing by 'daydreaming': Chinese media
Chinese newspaper ridicules India’s manufacturing ambitions with racially charged language in light of riot at Taiwan’s Wistron plant
By Ching-Tse Cheng, Taiwan News, Staff Writer
2020/12/15 16:49

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Chinese media outlet The Paper on Tuesday (Dec. 15) described India's ambition to replace Chinese manufacturing as a mere dream in response to the recent riot that erupted at an iPhone factory run by Taiwan's Wistron Corporation (緯創資通) in southern India, relying on racially demeaning characterizations to make the point.

On Saturday (Dec. 12), a Wistron manufacturing plant in Narasapura was looted by nearly 2,000 workers who accused the Taiwanese iPhone maker of violating employment contracts by making payroll cuts. Numerous pieces of furniture and assembly units at the factory were destroyed while thousands of iPhones were reportedly stolen.

Over 140 protestors were arrested by the local police who rushed to stop the riots. Meanwhile, Wistron expressed shock about the incident and said financial losses of somewhere between NT$100 million (US$3.55 million) and NT$200 million were expected.

In a racially charged report published on Tuesday, pro-Beijing The Paper said the incident has highlighted significant problems in India that prevent it from becoming a manufacturing powerhouse. It claimed that workers at the bottom of Indian society are known for their "laziness and low salaries" and that their "technical ability, professionalism, and work efficiency are all far inferior" to their Chinese counterparts.

The Paper emphasized that the low efficiency of Indian workers will severely affect the quality of products and in turn create higher comprehensive labor costs. It also mentioned that it takes an average of 18 days for a foreign enterprise to register in India but that it only takes about half of the time in China.


The Paper said safety issues are another main concern for foreign companies that want to invest in India. It stressed that there had been frequent robberies in the country, including a case in which a truck loaded with China's Xiaomi phones was held up in February.

The digital newspaper then declared that the article was not aimed at criticizing India, but rather at "pouring cold water" on its dream to become the leader in global manufacturing. It concluded that India could only replace Chinese manufacturing by "daydreaming."

India can replace China’s manufacturing by 'daydreaming': Chinese media | Taiwan News | 2020-12-15 16:49:00

Chinese newspaper ridicules India’s manufacturing ambitions with racially charged language in light of riot at Taiwan’s Wistron plant | 2020-12-15 16:49:00

www.taiwannews.com.tw

Very wrong report. There are and have been such workers riots everywhere in the world , including in China, Vietnam/other developing countries and even some developed countries. So such a riot doesn't means we should make a generalisation over a nation/race etc. Article is full of bullshit.

Moroever workers are right to fight for their rights. These greedy corporations are notorious for maltreating and exploiting their workers and sometimes even refusing to pay them the peanuts they demand, even though they are making hundreds of billions of dollars every year. So I'm with Indian workers on this one. People forget that for workers to riots to this point , it means that they have tried everything they could to reason with their employers invane. For them to riot to this extent shows that they had passed the stage of frustration. We saw this with workers in China working for these big corporations in the past as well. These greedy cooperations are notorious for their greed to maximize profits and exploit their workers to the fullest.

 

[jamahir]

i would say there are people who work really hard but for some reason things are not going well.

I agree there are hard-working people too. For example, there have been three recent private spacecraft design companies in India who at the moment are building rockets and engines for launching and keeping small satellites ( lookup Bellatrix, Agnikul and Skyroot ). I am sure they have ambitions to launch and transport humans into space in a decade or so, emulating SpaceX.

Either bad management

Yes.

but **** it i am done with it. I haven't lived there since I was a teenager.

I hope you come back at a later point and join a progressive group in Lanka. There is a long-standing left-wing activism in Lanka too.

If it did suck as much as the CCP chaps claim, 100000 Chinese would not be living in India as refugees.

Bhai, a related matter. There are so many economic migrants from India to the West and West Asia. How many Westerners and West Asians are economic migrants to India ?

india has free media good one bro!

Despite most media kowtowing to the Modi government there are quite a few independent-minded media agencies remaining - NDTV, The Hindu, Deccan Herald, The Wire etc, plus some YouTube channels.

 

[Jackdaws]

Lol.. why these 100,000 political criminal want to come back China? They will be jailed under collaboration of dalai lama. Not beautiful life for them.

The taiwanese are cunning one. They badmouth India under the banner of China to take revenge for their burn factory while try without really offending the Indians with all these insults

Of course the Buddhist monk and his followers will be jailed. That's the whole point of the Chinese fleeing to India and becoming refugees.

I agree there are hard-working people too. For example, there have been three recent private spacecraft design companies in India who at the moment are building rockets and engines for launching and keeping small satellites ( lookup Bellatrix, Agnikul and Skyroot ). I am sure they have ambitions to launch and transport humans into space in a decade or so, emulating SpaceX.



Yes.



I hope you come back at a later point and join a progressive group in Lanka. There is a long-standing left-wing activism in Lanka too.



Bhai, a related matter. There are so many economic migrants from India to the West and West Asia. How many Westerners and West Asians are economic migrants to India ?



Despite most media kowtowing to the Modi government there are quite a few independent-minded media agencies remaining - NDTV, The Hindu, Deccan Herald, The Quint etc, plus some YouTube channels.

Big difference between economic migrants and political refugees.

 

[Beast]

Of course the Buddhist monk and his followers will be jailed. That's the whole point of the Chinese fleeing to India and becoming refugees.

So they are not coming back to China becos life is terrible but becos of their shitty stance, right?

While billions of Indian will not hesitate to cross over to China to enjoy world class infrastructure and standard human being life, right?

Unfortunately, the door is closed for them.

 

[jamahir]

Big difference between economic migrants and political refugees.

But as far as I know the Dalai Lama and his family were ancestral feudals who did not agree with the socialist stance of Mao. Not very Buddhist of them.

Am I right, @Beast, @tower9 ?

 

[Jackdaws]

But as far as I know the Dalai Lama and his family were ancestral feudals who did not agree with the socialist stance of Mao. Not very Buddhist of them.

Am I right, @Beast, @tower9 ?

Of course they didn't have to agree with anything Mao said or did. I guess the persecution that followed forced the Chinese to seek refuge in India.

So they are not coming back to China becos life is terrible but becos of their shitty stance, right?

While billions of Indian will not hesitate to cross over to China to enjoy world class infrastructure and standard human being life, right?

Unfortunately, the door is closed for them.

Do you have any source which shows that "billions of Indians will not hesitate" or did you just read that in a Communist propaganda leaflet to prevent further Chinese from seeking refuge in India. Haha

Of course they aren't going back because life is terrible in China - I am sure the Chinese refugees in India value their lives and those of their children.

 

[Beast]

But as far as I know the Dalai Lama and his family were ancestral feudals who did not agree with the socialist stance of Mao. Not very Buddhist of them.

Am I right, @Beast, @tower9 ?

Absolutely correct

 

[jamahir]

Of course they didn't have to agree with anything Mao said or did. I guess the persecution that followed forced the Chinese to seek refuge in India.

My point was that Tibet before Mao's troops entered was a feudal society with cruelties like how in India we had the zamindari system with oppressed peasants. Tibet was a version of Naxalbari. This article speaks the truth about Tibet before 1959 :

Tibet seems like as a celestial paradise held in chains, but the west's tendency to romanticise the country's Buddhist culture has distorted our view. Popular belief is that under the Dalai Lama, Tibetans lived contentedly in a spiritual non-violent culture, uncorrupted by lust or greed: but in reality society was far more brutal than that vision.

Last December, Ye Xiaowen, head of China's administration for religious affairs, published a piece in the state-run China Daily newspaper that, although propaganda, rings true. "History clearly reveals that the old Tibet was not the Shangri-La that many imagine", he wrote "but a society under a system of feudal serfdom."

Until 1959, when China cracked down on Tibetan rebels and the Dalai Lama fled to northern India, around 98% of the population was enslaved in serfdom. Drepung monastery, on the outskirts of Lhasa, was one of the world's largest landowners with 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. High-ranking lamas and secular landowners imposed crippling taxes, forced boys into monastic slavery and pilfered most of the country's wealth – torturing disobedient serfs by gouging out their eyes or severing their hamstrings.

Tashi Tsering, now an English professor at Lhasa University is representative of Tibetans that do not see China's occupation as worse tyranny. He was taken from his family near Drepung at 13 and forced into the Dalai Lama's personal dance troupe. Beaten by his teachers, Tsering put up with rape by a well-connected monk in exchange for protection. In his autobiography, The Struggle for Modern Tibet, Tsering writes that China brought long-awaited hope when is laid claim to Tibet in 1950.

After studying at the University of Washington, Tsering returned to Chinese-occupied Tibet in 1964, convinced that the country could modernise effectively by cooperating with the Chinese. Denounced during the Cultural Revolution, arrested in 1967 to spend six years in prison and labour camps, he still maintains that Mao Tse-Tung liberated his people.

Caught between a system reminiscent of medieval Europe and a colonial force that brought forced collectivisation and similar human rights abuses, Tibet moved from one oppressive regime to another.

During the 1990s, Tibetans suspected of harbouring nationalist tendencies were arrested and imprisoned and in 2006, Romanian climbers witnessed Chinese guards shooting a group of refugees headed for the Nepalese border. China's abhorrent treatment of "political subversives" has rightly spurned a global Free Tibetmovement, diminishing the benefits that it did bring to society.

After 1959, it abolished slavery, serfdom and unfair taxes. Creating thousands of jobs through new infrastructure projects, it built Tibet's first hospitals and opened schools in every major village, bringing education to the masses. Clean water was pumped into the main towns and villages and the average life expectancy has almost doubled since 1950, to 60.

Even so, in 2001 the Dalai Lama said: "Tibet, materially, is very, very backward. Spiritually it is quite rich. But spirituality can't fill our stomachs."

Freedom for Tibet is not simply a case of liberation from China and the reinstatement of traditional values. Around 70 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line and enhanced spirituality alone will not improve economic conditions. Poverty is not quaint no matter how colourful the culture and the Tibet question is one that should be addressed from a rational, rather than an idealised viewpoint.

Nearby Bhutan, which has a similar Buddhist culture that it tried to preserve by banning television until 1999 and limiting foreign visitors, only held its first democratic elections in 2007. The Dalai Lama now promotes democracy, but Tibet may well have looked worse than it does today if the old order had been left to its own devices.

 

[Jackdaws]

My point was that Tibet before Mao's troops entered was a feudal society with cruelties like how in India we had the zamindari system with oppressed peasants. Tibet was a version of Naxalbari. This article speaks the truth about Tibet before 1959 :

Of course Tibet has its own set of internal issues. However neither Zamindars nor their indentured laborers working on those lands were persecuted so much that they had to flee and become refugees elsewhere. And I doubt all 100,000 Chinese refugees living in India were feudal landlords and their families. If you have any source to contradict that, I am happy to be corrected.

 

[Darius77]

China is where it is not just becuase of its government policies, or their system, it's their work ethics as a nation, which set them apart from the rest.

Any nation who is suffering from hallucinations about capturing Chinese market share, need to look at their own people at grass root level and see if they are even up to the task. It's always easy to be loud mouths at leadership level , like in case of India.

Well said, I have worked with both Indians and Chinese as an engineer, the Indians simply talk too much and are not honest or hard working. India can not even manufacture a decent shirt, let alone "replace China".

 

[jamahir]

Of course Tibet has its own set of internal issues. However neither Zamindars nor their indentured laborers working on those lands were persecuted so much that they had to flee and become refugees elsewhere. And I doubt all 100,000 Chinese refugees living in India were feudal landlords and their families. If you have any source to contradict that, I am happy to be corrected.

Persecuted ? Why should the ancestors of those 100,000 have felt "persecuted" just because Mao's system wanted them to discard their traditional injustice-filled feudal structure and adopt a new, progressive belief ?

Most of those who crossed over to India were the support structure of the Tibetan traditional oppressive structure, just like the Taliban in Afganistan finds some support among Afghans and the Hindutvadi activists in India find support among many civilians.

If the Naxalites in India take some of the Maoist revolution as inspiration for bettering India what was the objection of those crossing-over Tibetan-Chinese followers of Dalai Lama to Maoist thought ? I don't agree to some things in the current Chinese governance and society but I don't think Mao was really such a persecutor that those Dalai Lama followers would have valid reasons to flee to India.

And the Naxalbari peasants in India were the ones persecuted by the feudal structure - the zamindars, so they did fight back. The zamindars neither were persecuted nor should they have had any valid reason to complain because they were the ones who were part of a traditional oppressive socio-economic structure that should have been abolished.

So the peasants of Naxalbari and their middle class leaders were right in their struggle whereas the India-based "Tibetan government-in-exile" and its military unit the SFF ( Special Frontier Force ) have no reason to exist. Tell me, do you as an Indian want the Indian bureaucracy / government want Tibet to turn back to its previous system of serfs being blinded or their limbs being cut, to speak of the more prominent human rights abuses ?

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Very wrong report. There are and have been such workers riots everywhere in the world , including in China, Vietnam/other developing countries and even some developed countries. So such a riot doesn't means we should make a generalisation over a nation/race etc. Article is full of bullshit.

Moroever workers are right to fight for their rights. These greedy corporations are notorious for maltreating and exploiting their workers and sometimes even refusing to pay them the peanuts they demand, even though they are making hundreds of billions of dollars every year. So I'm with Indian workers on this one. People forget that for workers to riots to this point , it means that they have tried everything they could to reason with their employers invane. For them to riot to this extent shows that they had passed the stage of frustration. We saw this with workers in China working for these big corporations in the past as well. These greedy cooperations are notorious for their greed to maximize profits and exploit their workers to the fullest.

All developing countries go through this phase. Shitty pay for long hours while the fat cats in air conditioned buildings take the lions share.

The sad truth is that even under those shitty conditions, it could be much worse. What else is there to do in India? Sugar cane farming? Agriculture? Its so fcuked that drinking pesticide is the only 'cure' to that existence.

I remember when my Dads cousin talked about how great it is to work in a Nike factory in Vietnam back in the 90s. Pay is shit by western standards but apparently the free lunch cafeteria serves roast duck which was beyond the means of the average Vietnamese back in those days.

The Indians burning down the factory is beyond stupid, it trashes the country's reputation, the reputation of the Indian proletariat, and most importantly the willingness of companies to invest there. How many smart phone factories are there in the fledgling Indian manufacturing sector, especially when compared to their east Asian counterparts?

Its a shitty job but its actually perfect for India. You climb the ladder starting from the shit smeared bottom rung.

 

[bbccdd1470]

We don't have to check, we lived through it, there was no Tiananmen massacre, there were some casualties from both PLA and civilians , but none happened in Tiananmen square, the crap that the western media feeds you everyday.

Lol, if Chinese employers paid the chicken feed that Indian employers pay Indian workers, there could be riots everyday.

Yeah, the Tiananmen massacre was the same horseshit as the peaceful protestors in HK last year.