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India behind Lanka's victory over LTTE: Book

I would say you can search for NDTV mahindra rajapaksa interview in the net, because from what i heard right from the horses mouth these are the following things he told.

1. IPKF controlled and was on the verge of eliminating LTTE during its times, before it was asked to go back. He himself agreed if IPKF was allowed to stay in lanka, LTTE would have been long eliminated.

2. India, provided defensive mechanisms and military equipments, which have to an extent helped in their fight against LTTE during this renewed offensive.

3. Indian blessings where there for the fight and war against LTTE.

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1. Sir read IPKF was no doubt dying there fighting them but then your top brass armymen were helping LTTE and your RAW was informing the LTTE before hand before any operation by IPKF during that time hence your soldiers were dying while Indian military top brass and RAW were still collaboration with LTTE.

2. Sorry you are wrong. India always refused to provide weapons and military equipment to Sri Lanka on pretext of being offensive.

3. Sorry again India was maligning Sri Lanka throughout the world on pretext of Human rights while Sri Lanka was fighting LTTE in the last offensive.

India was pressurising Sri Lanka to halt the operation against Tamil terrorists so that they can regroup. But Sri Lankans were determind to rootout LTTE.
 
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1. Sir read IPKF was no doubt dying there fighting them but then your top brass armymen were helping LTTE and your RAW was informing the LTTE before hand before any operation by IPKF during that time hence your soldiers were dying while Indian military top brass and RAW were still collaboration with LTTE.

Source please.

2. Sorry you are wrong. India always refused to provide weapons and military equipment to Sri Lanka on pretext of being offensive.

Source please.

3. Sorry again India was maligning Sri Lanka throughout the world on pretext of Human rights while Sri Lanka was fighting LTTE in the last offensive.

Source Please

India was pressurizing Sri Lanka to halt the operation against Tamil terrorists so that they can regroup. But Sri Lankans were determind to rootout LTTE.

And source please.


I have not said anything on my own, and it was clearly the words of the President of Srilanka Mahindra Rajapaksa. And i doubt you saw the entire interview. Any ways, i am very amused to know your level of biased(According to me) understanding about India srilanka relations and it seems that you are trying to equate indian system with the power centers in pakistan.

Indian army and inteligence are never known to work independently from the system. And inteligence agencies work and report to PM, and so according to your logic, rajiv gandhi was a prankster who thoguht of sending some troops to srilanka and at the same time tip of LTTE so that his own troops can be killed. I am sorry to say your statement is not making any sense, but yes ofcourse i would like to know what would be your logic or the source behind your above points.
 
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The difference in ISI and RAW is that ISI is self funded where as RAW is state funded. It is very open truth that ISI gets its Salary from GOP, however the luxury they afford comes from Blood money or Drugs, Fake currency Indian currency. etc.
I am sure GOP is not funding from the taxpayers money all the insurgencies. Definitely not your present govt.
GOP helplessly call them Non state actors and there a big theater out there for these actors.. Pakistan is seeing drama every day. The common citizen is suffereing

Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence [ISI] - Pakistan Intelligence Agencies

You can believe what you will .. Dont bring your so called facts here .. All these assumptions of the ISI you seem to have are unsubstantiated. The ISI could back people that do that cause that is the role of an agency much like what RAW does .. only on a bigger scale cause they get paid by GOI in million dollar bills ( I was being sarcastic ).
 
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I have not said anything on my own, and it was clearly the words of the President of Srilanka Mahindra Rajapaksa. And i doubt you saw the entire interview. Any ways, i am very amused to know your level of biased(According to me) understanding about India srilanka relations and it seems that you are trying to equate indian system with the power centers in pakistan.

Indian army and inteligence are never known to work independently from the system. And inteligence agencies work and report to PM, and so according to your logic, rajiv gandhi was a prankster who thoguht of sending some troops to srilanka and at the same time tip of LTTE so that his own troops can be killed. I am sorry to say your statement is not making any sense, but yes ofcourse i would like to know what would be your logic or the source behind your above points.


Let me reply you one by one.

You said India provided offensive and other weapons and equipment to SL.

Sri Lanka turned to China for arms after India refused supply

Tue, 2009-05-26 12:45

Colombo, 26 May, (Asiantribune.com):
Sri Lanka had turned Gen. Sarath Fonsekato China for military purchases only after India had refused to supply offensive weapons to the island`s military during its critical campaign against the LTTE, said Army Commander Gen. Sarath Fonseka, in an interview with NDTV.
`India had told us they were not in a position to sell or send offensive weapons or even equipment like radars and basic communication equipment to meet our requirements,` he has told NDTV.

This, he said, had led Sri Lanka to approach countries like Pakistan, China and Russia for meeting its urgent military needs.



The reason why Sri Lanka turned to China for weapons - SF - Sri Lanka
 
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India had told us they were not in a position to sell or send offensive weapons or even equipment like radars and basic communication equipment to meet our requirements,` he has told NDTV.

Indra radars must have came from heavens then.

When LTTE attacked Colombo with their planes it were Indra radars who detected those planes.

GB.
 
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:rofl: too late to get credit for someone else's efforts and deterimination.

The last time i checked it was Pakistan who has the biggest share after Sri Lankans in their victory against Indian backed terrorists from LTTE.

New book reveals India’s ‘hidden hand’ in Sri Lanka war

New Delhi, Aug 22 (IANS) India played a critical, albeit covert, role in the success of Sri Lanka’s war against the Tamil Tigers, with the Indian Navy providing vital intelligence in locating and destroying at least a dozen LTTE rogue vessels laden with arms, says the first such detailed account of the operation.

India’s covert support to Sri Lanka in the war against the LTTE assumed many forms, ranging from back-channel talks and a tacit endorsement of Colombo’s destroy-LTTE mission to supply of military hardware and sharing of real-time intelligence, says Nitin A. Gokhale in his book “Sri Lanka - From War to Peace” (Har-Anand Publications).

New Delhi helped Colombo in myriad ways despite its public hands-off posture and denial of offensive weapons to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eeelam (LTTE) due to domestic political compulsions, contends Gokhale.

The ruling United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government in New Delhi was dependent upon the DMK party from Tamil Nadu, perceived to be sympathetic to the LTTE, for its survival in parliament.

“Publicly, India maintained that it would not give Sri Lanka any offensive weapons. Yet, in early 2006 India quietly gifted five Mi-17 helicopters to the Sri Lankan Air Force,” Gokhale writes. “The only Indian condition was: these helicopters would fly under Sri Lankan Air Force colours. New Delhi clearly did not want to annoy UPA’s Tamil Nadu allies like the DMK unnecessarily,” he says.

The author singles out the Indian Navy for special praise. The Indian Coast Guard gifted a Sukanya Class offshore patrol vessel (OPV) to the Sri Lankan Navy in 2002, which played a major role in several daring missions launched by the Sri Lankan Air Force to rescue the Army’s Deep Penetration Units when they were surrounded by LTTE’s counter-infiltration units.

The OPVs also helped when injured soldiers had to be airlifted from deep inside LTTE-held territory.

The author quotes Sri Lanka’s Navy Chief Admiral Wasantha Karannagoda to underline the Indian Navy’s contribution in locating and destroying at least 10 ‘floating warehouses’ owned and used by the LTTE for storing arms, ammunition and even armoured personnel carriers.

According to Indian and Sri Lankan Navy sources quoted by the author in his book, well-coordinated operations by the two navies between 2006 and 2009 actually broke the backbone of the LTTE’s Sea Tigers.

Intelligence-sharing also proved crucial. The Indian Navy’s Dorniers, fitted with powerful radars, based at Ramnad in Tamil Nadu flew regular reconnaissance missions over the seas around Sri Lanka.

“Whenever a suspicious ship was detected, the Indian Navy passed on the information to the Sri Lankans. The real time intelligence helped Sri Lankan Navy to track and then destroy the LTTE arms consignments,” says Gokhale, who covered the last phase of Sri Lanka’s battle against Tamil Tigers for NDTV.

The book also recounts vividly the last days of LTTE chief V. Prabhakaran, who pioneered the cult of suicide bombers and tormented the Sri Lankan state and people for three decades.

Ordering the assassination of former prime minister of India Rajiv Gandhi proved to be a major strategic error on the part of the charismatic guerrilla leader, the author writes.

Gokhale also provides an insight into the Sri Lankan government’s winning strategy for the decimation of the LTTE that ended Asia’s longest-running insurgency.

Sri Lanka Breaking News-Daily Mirror Online

Sri Lankan news paper source.
 
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The book is unrealistic.

Indian Tamil wanted Tamil nadu in India (their own country). India send their army and it was reacted by killing Rajeev Ghandi... The start of suicide bombs (and in this case even a female!!!!). Then India supported Tamil terrorism in Sri Lanka so they could have less troubles. They send weapons, funds, logistics, planes... Where else do you think they got the items? And India pressed Lanka to buy bad quality weapons from India. We all know that the radar was not working and so lots of Lankan aircraft were destroyed on the ground... Now we have to rewrite the history? Please. It is like India is giving Kashmiri real democracy and freedom. Or giving muslims in India equal rights... We all know that it is not true. A book will not change that.

LOL!!!!.......Hey Munir.....Im actually a film director from Bollywood...and I think you would be perfect to write a screenplay....just keep doing what you're doing up there......maybe a little more masala....and I promise...Bollywood will invite you with open arms.....
 
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I feel like we need to make some points clear here.....

1) India whether she likes it or not has to morally lookout for the well being of Tamils since it has a large Tamil population......
Hence I wouldnt be surprised if Indians have/had a soft corner for the Tamils

2) India may have backed LTTE at one point.....I dont think that can be left out of discussion.....for its own strategic interests I feel....Since the Tamils were heavily pro-India.....
Pakistani's on this forum cannot complain since their hands are dirty with Afghanistan which falls under the same category.....helping a community because of moral obligations......
However since the involvement of IPKF and the resulting assasination of RG, the support was pulled back....

3)Pakistan should and does receive credit for helping the SriLankan govt in eliminating the LTTE.....
However India's help may not be direct, but is very important.....being that if India wanted it could have pressured Lanka into ceasefire allowing LTTE to regroup.....or send military assistance to the Tamils of Lanka.....Which it did not.....
Frankly....do you think Sri-Lanka would stand a chance if India decided it wanted to really help the LTTE militarily and decided to launch a "Pakistan style" attack to free the Tamils??? I think not....

So my Pakistani friends.....our non-involvement was as big or even bigger help than what you could have provided!!!!
 
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Ahahahahahah....the tamil nadu country!....did i miss something?....you guys were playing the 'biggest pj of em all' game,werent you?.....lol.....if you were actually serious by any means,my apologies,i'm coming back after banging my head 5 times on the wall!
 
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I feel like we need to make some points clear here.....

1) India whether she likes it or not has to morally lookout for the well being of Tamils since it has a large Tamil population......
Hence I wouldnt be surprised if Indians have/had a soft corner for the Tamils

2) India may have backed LTTE at one point.....I dont think that can be left out of discussion.....for its own strategic interests I feel....Since the Tamils were heavily pro-India.....
Pakistani's on this forum cannot complain since their hands are dirty with Afghanistan which falls under the same category.....helping a community because of moral obligations......
However since the involvement of IPKF and the resulting assasination of RG, the support was pulled back....

3)Pakistan should and does receive credit for helping the SriLankan govt in eliminating the LTTE.....
However India's help may not be direct, but is very important.....being that if India wanted it could have pressured Lanka into ceasefire allowing LTTE to regroup.....or send military assistance to the Tamils of Lanka.....Which it did not.....
Frankly....do you think Sri-Lanka would stand a chance if India decided it wanted to really help the LTTE militarily and decided to launch a "Pakistan style" attack to free the Tamils??? I think not....

So my Pakistani friends.....our non-involvement was as big or even bigger help than what you could have provided!!!!

That sums it up .. Thank you and good night.
 
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Let me reply you one by one.

You said India provided offensive and other weapons and equipment to SL.

Sri Lanka turned to China for arms after India refused supply

Tue, 2009-05-26 12:45

Colombo, 26 May, (Asiantribune.com):
Sri Lanka had turned Gen. Sarath Fonsekato China for military purchases only after India had refused to supply offensive weapons to the island`s military during its critical campaign against the LTTE, said Army Commander Gen. Sarath Fonseka, in an interview with NDTV.
`India had told us they were not in a position to sell or send offensive weapons or even equipment like radars and basic communication equipment to meet our requirements,` he has told NDTV.

This, he said, had led Sri Lanka to approach countries like Pakistan, China and Russia for meeting its urgent military needs.



The reason why Sri Lanka turned to China for weapons - SF - Sri Lanka

Sri Lanka still sourcing arms from Pak, China - India - NEWS - The Times of India

India, on its part, has supplied "defensive or non-lethal'' weapon systems like automatic 40mm L-70 close range anti-aircraft guns and `Indra' low-flying detection radars to the island nation, apart from training hundreds of Sri Lankan military personnel.

And jana, kindly tell me when did i say India supplied offensive weapons.????

And yes i am waiting for your one by one reply coz it seems you have only replied to one point which i never raised.:lol:
 
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Sri Lanka still sourcing arms from Pak, China - India - NEWS - The Times of India

India, on its part, has supplied "defensive or non-lethal'' weapon systems like automatic 40mm L-70 close range anti-aircraft guns and `Indra' low-flying detection radars to the island nation, apart from training hundreds of Sri Lankan military personnel.

And jana, kindly tell me when did i say India supplied offensive weapons.????

And yes i am waiting for your one by one reply coz it seems you have only replied to one point which i never raised.:lol:

You forgot the Mi-8/17's and the Sukanya Class Patrol large boat which are mentioned in my above post.

GB
 
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