'India at OIC makes sense': Indonesian FM

[Asimzranger]

But, why?
International politics does not get solved by storming out, like Bhutto did in UN.. you only lose a seat and influence... don't think your politicians will be silly to do that.

That's what i am saying if there is no difference between UN and OIC what's the use of it, for 3 decades pakistan stopped india from becoming OIC member now if other member are having political, trade influence of india over there decision making why should OIC remain or if it does pakistan should leave.

 

[mastaan]

That's what i am saying if there is no difference between UN and OIC what's the use of it, for 3 decades pakistan stopped india from becoming OIC member now if other member are having political, trade influence of india over there decision making why should OIC remain or if it does pakistan should leave.

not smart, you know that.. It's not an issue of pride, it is an issue of politics.. Plus, India is not a member yet, anyways... lots of water still to cross under the bridge,..

 

[Asimzranger]

not smart, you know that.. It's not an issue of pride, it is an issue of politics.. Plus, India is not a member yet, anyways... lots of water still to cross under the bridge,..

Like my voice is heard, foreign office incharge are more intellect and i believe many are doing strategy to counter this but if all fail pakistan should think of leaving it and making a new with joint military UN peacekeeper style.

 

[Tom M]

if muslim population is the only credentials then also join russia,germany,china, then what's the difference between un and oic.

Yes, it should be considered.

FYI, OIC is Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, not Organisation of Islamic Countries or Organisation of Islamic Countries Cooperation.

 

[Murgah]

oic is completely useless organization if u have a power no one can dare to touch you

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Guys, relax.

India is working double time to force some kind of statements against Pakistan, then news sources from India spin it and try to extract propaganda from it. UAE are treacherous scum, but our SEA brothers are not.

Indonesia is thoroughly our ally and best friend, no need to antagonize them. Indonesia asked us if we would allow them to help us in 1965 war, they had plans to take Andaman and Nicobar islands from India.

If the government of Indonesia takes any anti-Pakistan action, the people of Indonesia will hold this government to account. They have a robust and religious civic society.

Jokowi has had some serious problems and scandals due to his liberal tilt, he won't risk major waves.

 

[M.Bison]

But, why?
International politics does not get solved by storming out, like Bhutto did in UN.. you only lose a seat and influence... don't think your politicians will be silly to do that.

The organization of islamic cooperation is meant for muslim countries and that is in the rules. Either you have to be a muslim ruler or a muslim majority state. India is a Hindu state. Not only is it against OIC rules to give Hindu India a seat it would actually make a mockery of OIC. The Hindu religion is the complete opposite of Islam. It is a vile cult that is an abomination on the face of the planet.

The arabs of today are a stupid nation and Pakistan should leave that sh!tty gathering. I wonder how they would feel if Jordan tomorrow invites Israel to Arab league. I mean you know better but you want to play Hindu with us.

 

[ziaulislam]

If that happens Pakistan should honestly leave.
There is no point in staying in an OIC that has india

Pakistan should state that make Israel france Myanmar also memebers as they have substantial muslim population (almost 5-10%) and than leave..

 

[M.Bison]

I personally do not see India becoming a member state. Only as an observer but that's even worse. Why let someone that drinks piss and worships dolls into a muslim gathering. It is like letting modi supporters setup a shiva linga inside mosques in Delhi.

The fact that OIC started to raise the issue of Kashmir when they invited Suraj shows how low India is willing to go to change the narrative about Pakistan. Honestly, I don't know why Pakistanis spill blood for these new arabs.. They do not care about Islamic brotherhood. They only care about the bottom line.

Our country has been at war for the past 17 years and these arabs turn a blind eye... They are responsible for the problems In Afghanistan. Pakistan should leave OIC and clean the our country from this political garbage that has been festering for years. That way it can deal with the world from a position of power and not weakness.

No one would even spit at Indians if they did not have that big a population. Pakistan has the potential to become a permanant need for the world. It is unfortunate that we are so divided politically. Once we become strong no one will even look at Hindu India.

 

[mastaan]

The organization of islamic cooperation is meant for muslim countries and that is in the rules. Either you have to be a muslim ruler or a muslim majority state. India is a Hindu state. Not only is it against OIC rules to give Hindu India a seat it would actually make a mockery of OIC. The Hindu religion is the complete opposite of Islam. It is a vile cult that is an abomination on the face of the planet.

The arabs of today are a stupid nation and Pakistan should leave that sh!tty gathering. I wonder how they would feel if Jordan tomorrow invites Israel to Arab league. I mean you know better but you want to play Hindu with us.

I know it will most probably titillate your senses to call names to a religion. You should carry on; all the best to you. Ignorants don't offend me.

Now, whenever you stop hyper ventilating - The point i made before was - this is a proposal idea floated by Indonesia FM, not by India. And, a lot has to happen before this comes to maturity. And that Pakistan should not storm out of membership in protest, as it will only isolate - rather stand up and fight against it and if it were to happen still then find ways to protect your rights and interests. But you clearly think this forum anyways is not needed. Rest, you read what you want to. Meinu ki.

 

[M.Bison]

I know it will most probably titillate your senses to call names to a religion. You should carry on; all the best to you. Ignorants don't offend me.

Now, whenever you stop hyper ventilating - The point i made before was - this is a proposal idea floated by Indonesia FM, not by India. And, a lot has to happen before this comes to maturity. And that Pakistan should not storm out of membership in protest, as it will only isolate - rather stand up and fight against it and if it were to happen still then find ways to protect your rights and interests. But you clearly think this forum anyways is not needed. Rest, you read what you want to. Meinu ki.

You don't realize what is going on in the OIC and want to play Hindu. The OIC is a useless organization.. what is the point of passing resolutions and then open back doors and deal with the people that you vote against. Ie Jerusalem and Palestine. Pakistan should not be part of an organization that does not respect its own founding principles. It should just leave its simple as that. There is nothing to stand up and fight against. This is not Bollywood.

Don't worry about me hyperventilating. You should go and read a little before you start commenting about things you don't know about.

As far as Indonesia FM is concerned... Im sure Hindu India has never floated the idea to join OIC on its own volition.. Thats what I mean you don't read and then come on this forum and play hindu with us..

 

[mastaan]

You don't realize what is going on in the OIC and want to play Hindu. The OIC is a useless organization.. what is the point of passing resolutions and then open back doors and deal with the people that you vote against. Ie Jerusalem and Palestine. Pakistan should not be part of an organization that does not respect its own founding principles. It should just leave its simple as that. There is nothing to stand up and fight against. This is not Bollywood.

Don't worry about me hyperventilating. You should go and read a little before you start commenting about things you don't know about.

As far as Indonesia FM is concerned... Im sure Hindu India has never floated the idea to join OIC on its own volition.. Thats what I mean you don't read and then come on this forum and play hindu with us..

I see how desperate you are to label me hindu

Not sure why you are so upset about a useless organization, by your own admission.

Am not worried about you.. you are again misreading me.

 

[Pak_Sher]

India at Organisation of Islamic Cooperation makes sense: Indonesia FM Retno Marsudi

Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury

Mar 24, 2019

Indonesian foreign minister Retno Marsudi

Indonesia, home to the world’s biggest Muslim population, has justified the invitation extended to India by the United Arab Emirates as a Guest of Honour for the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation meeting on March 1-2 and termed it an appropriate move.

“The invite extended to India by hosts UAE to attend the OIC foreign ministers meet was an appropriate move and makes sense as India has almost 190 million Muslims,” Indonesian foreign minister Retno Marsudi told ET in an exclusive interaction before she left for Turkey for an emergency OIC meet on the New Zealand attacks. Marsudi, who had a brief chat with her Indian counterpart Sushma Swaraj in Abu Dhabi on March 1, described her as her sister. “India is a pluralist country. Indonesia is a pluralist country. India and Indonesia are two big democracies. We are trying to strengthen cooperation to create peace and tolerance in the world,” she said.

Indonesia, a non-permanent member of the UN Security Council and head of the sanctions committee on counter terrorism, played a key role in the fresh move to declare Masood Azhar a global terrorist recently. “Radical ideas are increasing and so are acts of terror. But terrorism doesn’t have a religion. Terrorism cannot be justified in the pretext of religion,” the Indonesian foreign minister emphasised when asked about the attacks in Pulwama and more recently in New Zealand.

Marsudi, credited with launching the initiative to create Indonesia’s Indo-Pacific strategy and a proponent of inclusive approach, noted that India and Indonesia have common goals in their respective Indo-Pacific strategies.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...sia-fm-retno-marsudi/articleshow/68553057.cms

Pakistan's population is more than Indian Muslims, so India does not have the biggest Muslim population. Indonesia has a business relationship with India and favours India.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...ort-in-indonesia/amp_articleshow/68511228.cms

The Indonesian-Indian business deals should stay out of OIC. It cannot hijack OIC Agenda because of conflict of interest.

 

[M.Bison]

I see how desperate you are to label me hindu

Not sure why you are so upset about a useless organization, by your own admission.

Am not worried about you.. you are again misreading me.

As long as I am concerned you are a Hindu because of the stupid points you are trying to make. Only Hindus are this stupid. You don't understand why I am concerned with a useless organization? hey numbnuts.. that's the whole point. I am saying that Pakistan should leave the useless organization because it is useless. I am concerned about my nation.. lol.. You are only worried about sitting on the shiva linga. I did not misunderstand you at all. Go eat veg biryani.

Pakistan's population is more than Indian Muslims, so India does not have the biggest Muslim population. Indonesia has a business relationship with India and favours India.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...ort-in-indonesia/amp_articleshow/68511228.cms

The Indonesian-Indian business deals should stay out of OIC. It cannot hijack OIC Agenda because of conflict of interest.

Yeah, this lady does not understand basic facts. She called India a democracy and a pluralist country. I don't know if she reads the news or not but clearly she has a biased opinion.

 

[Kaniska]

As long as I am concerned you are a Hindu because of the stupid points you are trying to make. Only Hindus are this stupid. You don't understand why I am concerned with a useless organization? hey numbnuts.. that's the whole point. I am saying that Pakistan should leave the useless organization because it is useless. I am concerned about my nation.. lol.. You are only worried about sitting on the shiva linga. I did not misunderstand you at all. Go eat veg biryani.



Yeah, this lady does not understand basic facts. She called India a democracy and a pluralist country. I don't know if she reads the news or not but clearly she has a biased opinion.

Usage of such nice words against Hindu religion in PDF is nothing new...But it displays the mindset of individual who do not have any counter argument in a rational debate..