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India as an Arms Exporter: Election Rhetoric or a Possible Reality?

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Defence matters, like foreign policy matters, seldom become election issues. Therefore, it was pleasantly surprising when the issue of making India an arms exporter in next five years cropped up recently. Import substitution and weapons export have always been an issue in independent India. However, given the endemic impasse in India’s domestic military–industrial complex (MIC) and its overt dependence on foreign weapons, such election promises may engender new expectations but defy ground realities.

The promise of making India an arms exporter brings home the larger malaise in the Indian political discourse, i.e. the disinclination to discuss security issues from a dispassionate perspective. Expansion of the MIC has been part of this problem. India simply failed to build on the nascent MIC that it inherited from the British Raj. Piecemeal expansions and capacity building was resorted to only during crisis times. India has been importing almost 70 percent of its weaponry for the last six decades. In a tragic twist of tale, India has emerged as the largest arms importer since 2011 with a 109 percent lead over China, its archrival and second largest importer. In addition, while China has also emerged as the fifth largest arms exporter overtaking UK in 2013, India remains a distant 26th. With 12 percent of global weapons import, India has single handedly revived the sick arms industry of Russia and UK and created jobs in other foreign MICs while depriving the much-required spur to drive the domestic MIC. While the global arms companies are euphoric about India’s market potential, India’s ‘consistent and persistent dependency’ belies its great power status. As things stand, India simply does not have the inbuilt structural capacity to become an arms exporter in next five years. According to a Deloitte and CII estimate, ‘the Indian arms industry would need to double its production output every year for five years’. This is indeed a very difficult task.

One of the main reasons for this stalemate is the mainstream political parties’ shyness in biting the bullet and forge a consensus on a comprehensive reforms package for expanding the MIC. When the economic reforms were unleashed in early 1990s, the defence production sector was left untouched from ‘de-licensing’ since it was considered ‘sensitive’ subject. In the process, the country paid the price for treating defence production as a ‘holy cow’ in the Kargil War when there was a demand supply mismatch in spare parts and ancillary products. Learning from the bitter experience, the then NDA Government opened up the defence production for private sector in 2001; the UPA Government subsequently pitched in through an offset policy in 2005 and a defence production policy in 2011 apart from streamlining procurement guidelines. However, several reform proposals have run into problems due to lack of political consensus. First, the Government could not implement the Kelkar Committee recommendations on the corporatisation of ordnance factories due to opposition from various stakeholders. The domestic MIC is certain to benefit if these reforms become a reality. Second, FDI remains a controversial issue. As per Government’s own estimate, half of the domestically produced equipment is obsolete and only 15 percent is considered as state-of-the art. Lack of FDI also explains why India remains a producer of tier II or III weapons. The present cap of 26 percent is insufficient to bring in foreign investment, desired technology and manufacturing capabilities. The private sector suggestion for lifting this to at least 49 percent is yet to receive support across the political spectrum. Third, the ideological divide on defence–development correlation, often reflected through the polemics on defence budget share in national GDP, is also responsible for low domestic arms production. The protagonists of higher defence budget allocation have cared little to ensure the development of a domestic manufacturing base and instead have clamoured, rather openly, for imported defence weaponry. While the Prime Minister has been speaking of ‘inclusive growth’ for quite some time, there has been little political debate on this model to suggest how defence sector can contribute to the nation’s growth story.

Lack of political consensus apart, the ground situation is not fertile enough to promote the domestic MIC. Major business groups have made little use of the liberalised environment to invest in defence R & D and production. Trade associations like CII and FICCI have done little beyond rhetoric and commissioning sample studies. Hitherto, India’s manufacturing base is poor, outdated and not up to contemporary technological expectations. With little prospects for rapid economic growth in near future, doubts remain if this sector would come out of slumber and take steps to aid and expand the defence industrial base. India, therefore, cannot become a lead arms exporter in near future. However, it does have the necessary potential to reduce a healthy proportion of weapons import. That cannot be done through a blanket ‘great leap forward’ approach; instead, a calibrated and considered action plan has to be put in place. Probably, there is a lesson to be learnt from the Chinese experience!

India as an Arms Exporter: Election Rhetoric or a Possible Reality?
 
During 1990s our leaders stay away from Defence industry simply they dont forsee India can grow like this.And at that time China also a defence importer and our idiots officials think they may remain that way.But after 20 years they starting to exporting arms.And now our idiotic officials are waking up.
It may be painful .But there is no other way Our leaders will resorted to an indigenous MIC because China now have a decent industry and it can supply arms to Pakistan in neccessary times
So they are already aware about a crisis scenario where weapon imports may become a burden.
 
Forget Export... india's internal consumption via military, law enforcement and Civilian consumption is large enough to sustain a viable defence industry but the lack of foresight from policy makers in the nation have has left the defence industry in shambles.

Small arms, ammunitions, Arty, aerial munitions, Support vehicles, riot control gear, Combat apparel, Surveillance equipment, Communication equipment, Suppoert vehicles, Armor vehicles and tanks, Combat, transport and trainer aircraft, along with Ships can be manufactured and developed in india, which will not only reduce the deficit but also increase employment and pump billions of dollars in to economy.

Purely due to collective inaction, lethargic reform initiatives and sometimes out of outright collusion the administration (leadership+bureaucracy combine) has
1> Wasted billions of taxpayer dollars
2> Delayed technological development
3> Risked the national security of the nation

unless the next government takes concrete steps towards relaxation of arms export from India and providing research funding to prospective private players in the defense market. there is no chance of India's development in the the defense sector.
 
Forget Export... india's internal consumption via military, law enforcement and Civilian consumption is large enough to sustain a viable defence industry but the lack of foresight from policy makers in the nation have has left the defence industry in shambles.

Small arms, ammunitions, Arty, aerial munitions, Support vehicles, riot control gear, Combat apparel, Surveillance equipment, Communication equipment, Suppoert vehicles, Armor vehicles and tanks, Combat, transport and trainer aircraft, along with Ships can be manufactured and developed in india, which will not only reduce the deficit but also increase employment and pump billions of dollars in to economy.

Purely due to collective inaction, lethargic reform initiatives and sometimes out of outright collusion the administration (leadership+bureaucracy combine) has
1> Wasted billions of taxpayer dollars
2> Delayed technological development
3> Risked the national security of the nation

unless the next government takes concrete steps towards relaxation of arms export from India and providing research funding to prospective private players in the defense market. there is no chance of India's development in the the defense sector.

India doesnt have a controlled civilian gun industry? There is BIG money in that, so much so that the GOI would make billions seeing the Indian purchasing power/population,
 
India doesnt have a controlled civilian gun industry? There is BIG money in that, so much so that the GOI would make billions seeing the Indian purchasing power/population,
The irony is that India has one of the largest ownership of illegal firearms in the world. If the govt made it easier to purchase licensed firearms, not only would they collect a lot of taxes, but it would also make the population safer, since people won't have to pay and rely on criminals and other dubious elements to get them a gun.
 
The irony is that India has one of the largest ownership of illegal firearms in the world. If the govt made it easier to purchase licensed firearms, not only would they collect a lot of taxes, but it would also make the population safer, since people won't have to pay and rely on criminals and other dubious elements to get them a gun.

You guys could match American civilian firearms industry by the sheer amount of population.
 
You guys could match American civilian firearms industry by the sheer amount of population.
That will bring its own side effects! considering the population it can create a nightmare for security forces if people get easy access on firearms.
 
That will bring its own side effects! considering the population it can create a nightmare for security forces if people get easy access on firearms.

If a crime is committed with a licensed firearm, it will make the jobs of security forces easier, because they can track down the perpetrator.
 
If a crime is committed with a licensed firearm, it will make the jobs of security forces easier, because they can track down the perpetrator.
Yes but on the same time you can't just make it easy to commit crime because its easy to catch culprits. Look at USA how easy it is to get firearms and how such arms are used in past few cases. Even in USA its been discussed to put ban on firearms. Considering the poverty in south Asia any such policy can have very devastating results.
 
That will bring its own side effects! considering the population it can create a nightmare for security forces if people get easy access on firearms.

Every bullet has a unique barrel/metallurgic signature. It's not hard as it is, just need a proper infrastructure in place.
 
India doesnt have a controlled civilian gun industry? There is BIG money in that, so much so that the GOI would make billions seeing the Indian purchasing power/population,

That would be the most stupid move that could be implemented in India... considering the dangers which would arise with it.

Most cops here still use weaponry designed before WW2....
Criminals, mobs, fanatics etc etc running around with guns would be a nightmare.

Look at this, anyone outside India would think that this photo was taken from a museum..
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.... but its the present armament of the Kerala Police force.
 
That would be the most stupid move that could be implemented in India... considering the dangers which would arise with it.

Most cops here still use weaponry designed before WW2....
Criminals, mobs, fanatics etc etc running around with guns would be a nightmare.

Look at this, anyone outside India would think that this photo was taken from a museum..
photo0344-jpg.17053




.... but its the present armament of the Kerala Police force.

I agree to your point wholeheartedly. I'm proposing handgun not rifles and auto stuff :D

Oh and I'm jealous of that Thompson!
 
Forget Export... india's internal consumption via military, law enforcement and Civilian consumption is large enough to sustain a viable defence industry but the lack of foresight from policy makers in the nation have has left the defence industry in shambles.

Small arms, ammunitions, Arty, aerial munitions, Support vehicles, riot control gear, Combat apparel, Surveillance equipment, Communication equipment, Suppoert vehicles, Armor vehicles and tanks, Combat, transport and trainer aircraft, along with Ships can be manufactured and developed in india, which will not only reduce the deficit but also increase employment and pump billions of dollars in to economy.

Purely due to collective inaction, lethargic reform initiatives and sometimes out of outright collusion the administration (leadership+bureaucracy combine) has
1> Wasted billions of taxpayer dollars
2> Delayed technological development
3> Risked the national security of the nation

unless the next government takes concrete steps towards relaxation of arms export from India and providing research funding to prospective private players in the defense market. there is no chance of India's development in the the defense sector.


100% agree, (except with the supply for civilians, we dont need US like gunlaws here ;)) we first have to look to satisfy the demands of our own military, paramilitary and police forces, only then we can think about selling them to others.

And we are already making good progress... Insas is in successful service with all branches of the military, paramilitary units and several Central and State Police forces while new developments are taking shape rapidly.
 
That would be the most stupid move that could be implemented in India... considering the dangers which would arise with it.

Most cops here still use weaponry designed before WW2....
Criminals, mobs, fanatics etc etc running around with guns would be a nightmare.

Look at this, anyone outside India would think that this photo was taken from a museum..
photo0344-jpg.17053




.... but its the present armament of the Kerala Police force.

When criminals, gangs and mobs start applying for legal arms licenses and will be approved ... we would have other things to worry about....

btw about weapons in the picture, Lee enfield is still one of the most sought after bolt action rifle, even the new sporter from the PFB is based on the same action block. It's accuracy, short stroke, and 10rd mag makes it an excellent opensight medium range marksman's rifle. Although can be argued the way it has been employed in law enforcement leaves a lot to be desired.

7.62 SLR is a hybrid between the Metric pattern and inch pattern FAL. It is an excellent long range rifle and with slightest retrofitting can accept modern optics, and the 7.62 x 51 is an unparalleled cartridge.

Sten: although the vintage can be argued as a negative, a brand new sten from OFB is as reliable and and as potent as any other fully auto carbine, and thus even if semi auto firearms are made legal, the weapons posted in the image are potent enough to hold thier own in a stand off in well trained hands.

I agree to your point wholeheartedly. I'm proposing handgun not rifles and auto stuff :D

Oh and I'm jealous of that Thompson!
the funny part is OFB doesn't make any .45 acp that I know of.
 
When criminals, gangs and mobs start applying for legal arms licenses and will be approved ... we would have other things to worry about....

btw about weapons in the picture, Lee enfield is still one of the most sought after bolt action rifle, even the new sporter from the PFB is based on the same action block. It's accuracy, short stroke, and 10rd mag makes it an excellent opensight medium range marksman's rifle. Although can be argued the way it has been employed in law enforcement leaves a lot to be desired.

7.62 SLR is a hybrid between the Metric pattern and inch pattern FAL. It is an excellent long range rifle and with slightest retrofitting can accept modern optics, and the 7.62 x 51 is an unparalleled cartridge.

Sten: although the vintage can be argued as a negative, a brand new sten from OFB is as reliable and and as potent as any other fully auto carbine, and thus even if semi auto firearms are made legal, the weapons posted in the image are potent enough to hold thier own in a stand off in well trained hands.


the funny part is OFB doesn't make any .45 acp that I know of.

Hain? What do they fire?
 

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