India applies for membership of Missile Technology Control Regime that controls missile & space tech

[kurup]

Who gets whole systems 'ready made' nowadays?...... We will get EXACTLY what you got from Russia and West and then labelled your entire space and missile program "indigenous"..........

And what exactly where those systems ??

 

[Hyperion]

The whole thing...... what else? However, you maturing and perfecting those systems and then cost-effectively producing them is a credit to you!

And what exactly where those systems ??

 

[kurup]

The whole thing...... what else? However, you maturing and perfecting those systems and then cost-effectively producing them is a credit to you!

So what you are saying is SLV , ASLV , PSLV < GSLV , LVM3 .... then all Prithvis , Agnis , K series , all tactical missile systems where provided to us by Russia ..... right .

 

[Hyperion]

All the critical subsystems yes, which were conveniently studied and reproduced...... jaan-e-mann tell all your indigenous stories to other members, not me............... this is precisely called proliferation of technologies........

So what you are saying is SLV , ASLV , PSLV < GSLV , LVM3 .... then all Prithvis , Agnis , K series , all tactical missile systems where provided to us by Russia ..... right .

 

[kaku1]

Read Last Para
The Missiles of August--Part II | MIT Technology Review
About Kh-55 it is an Air Launched cruise missile.

Bypassing the NMD - the Cruise Missile Proliferation Problem

 

[kurup]

All the critical subsystems yes, which were conveniently studied and reproduced...... jaan-e-mann tell all your indigenous stories to other members, not me............... this is precisely called proliferation of technologies........

But you are not saying which sub-systems or providing any proof for the same .

I would like to know more about it .

 

[kaku1]

It doesn't matter....... in case of India and Pakistan, the world has learned how to look the other way......... you got a conditional waiver on NSG, we got brand spanking 6 new reactors, all devoid of any IAEA safeguards......... and I'm talking about the most advanced US ones, courtesy China, who have the IP rights over it..........

I can assure you, if you get anything, we can match and one up your acquisition......... and no slack other than a few huffs and puffs from the west will come................

Wow, you pretty much have high confidence that China do proliferation in future.

Then lets see how many SLBMs China is going to give you .

None, after AQ Khan network busted, and when IAEA found Chinese Pu device in Libya. And I am pretty sure this design is in black market now.

The China developed its own way to control the proliferation. Do you know who control all the warheads and warhead production?

All the critical subsystems yes, which were conveniently studied and reproduced...... jaan-e-mann tell all your indigenous stories to other members, not me............... this is precisely called proliferation of technologies........

You pretty much know about Indian missile program.

 

[feedermen]

This is great news for India to be with the big boys in rocket technologies..

 

[Echo_419]

All the critical subsystems yes, which were conveniently studied and reproduced...... jaan-e-mann tell all your indigenous stories to other members, not me............... this is precisely called proliferation of technologies........

Not only the sub systems even the paint was provided by the Russians along with the know how on how to tighten screws & bolts

 

[Hyperion]

Cryogenic engine kiya Krishna g nay bhent kiya tha? Chall bey......... you don't need a list of proliferation, rather an index of proliferation......

Not only the sub systems even the paint was provided by the Russians along with the know how on how to tighten screws & bolts

 

[Echo_419]

Cryogenic engine kiya Krishna g nay bhent kiya tha? Chall bey......... you don't need a list of proliferation, rather an index of proliferation......

We only got the engines & not tech transfer so yes we made those engines on our own

 

[acid rain]

Who gets whole systems 'ready made' nowadays?...... We will get EXACTLY what you got from Russia and West and then labelled your entire space and missile program "indigenous"..........

Naaah. .you are restricted to only copied chinese crap and nothing more.

 

[coffee_cup]

if you have designed a better car than this, please tell us, now forget missile.

we will come to that discussion later.

I like the car, looks cool. Where can I get one?

 

[ni8mare]

The irony.........one of the most blatant proliferators of MTCR, now wants to become a member (and I'm sure deep inside it's already thinking of becoming the chairperson of MTCR and kicking China out ).............. no worries Uncle Amreeka will do it for you guys!

like how ? putting sanction on us or stopping have space tech ........

It doesn't matter....... in case of India and Pakistan, the world has learned how to look the other way......... you got a conditional waiver on NSG, we got brand spanking 6 new reactors, all devoid of any IAEA safeguards......... and I'm talking about the most advanced US ones, courtesy China, who have the IP rights over it..........

I can assure you, if you get anything, we can match and one up your acquisition......... and no slack other than a few huffs and puffs from the west will come................

how did you exactly matched ...........we are talking about 20+ nuke reactor with option to buy uranium ......where you can have brand spanking 6 new reactors that too in span of let say 15-20 years which will be still inadequate to address 12 hrs load shedding ...the

Who gets whole systems 'ready made' nowadays?...... We will get EXACTLY what you got from Russia and West and then labelled your entire space and missile program "indigenous"..........

like what we got?.....sanctions denial of basic supercomputer ,, cryogenic,, carbon fibers,, flight control processor... etc
i understand pain of not getting the same position to develop in missile and space tech ..but there is no point of belittling our effort

Cryogenic engine kiya Krishna g nay bhent kiya tha? Chall bey......... you don't need a list of proliferation, rather an index of proliferation......

we only got 8 set of cryogenic engine .........out which 5 were used ....no tot because of US which well documented how Russia buckle under the pressure of US

I will not deny that there is some tech are studied ...but a lot also developed ..courtesy US

And please discuses Chinese missile tech also

 

[SrNair]

@kurup Pakistan reverse Engineered US Tomahawk Cruise Missile,later same was passed to China.

No China reversed the US Tomohawk and later was passed to Pakistan.