India and Pakistan dispute

[H. Dawary]

I was watching this video and I found it really interesting and wanted to share it with all of you.

Would like to hear some of your thoughts dear users...

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Right, we both eat aloo ghosht.

 

[Yankee-stani]

5 years ago I would have probably said the same thing as this gentlemen proposed also I would have said too heck with the borders we should be one country sigh real stupid times when I was thinking about that , he is right Churchill tho.He was pure scum and WW2 was wasted effort for all those folks who came from the colonies yes, but he fails to understand that India is run by Hindu Right Wing Nationalists who is sole purpose to bleed Pakistan out of existence I think Pakistan has made enough overtures to Peace to New Delhi for decades while New Delhi lies and cheats all the time uses their large diaspora to malign us in the press and foreign Govts I dont see peace ever coming between India and Pakistan besides we in two different geo political blocks now we are edging close to Sino Centric bloc they more towards the Yanks as for Pakistan its time we root out the "moulvi "types institute a real "nationalist" discourse to break any feelings and Indophilla left in society

Right, we both eat aloo ghosht.

there is only line and aloo gosht is probably the worst statement to come out of the mouth of sitting PM of a sovereign country not even Canada would go that far with the Yanks

 

[Psychic]

I was watching this video and I found it really interesting and wanted to share it with all of you.

Would like to hear some of your thoughts dear users...

Unless India abandons her hegemonic policies, there can be no peace; that person clearly forgot to mention it in his sermon. Neither side is willing to squander the areas claimed by the other, and why would they? Also, he forgot to mention who started the arms race and the nuke race in the first place; as if the other side could afford to leave matters to chance.

We all know what the core issue between those two countries is and which country is unwilling to resolve that core issue or even initiate a dialogue. We know which nation rejects third party mediation and has stalled each and every process of dialogue in the past. See the memoirs of their founding fathers' henchmen; they concede to the fact that they had snatched Kashmir through fraud and deceit. That gentleman would've talked about justice and rule of law had he been wronged by a stronger person but he refuses to talk about justice when a bigger country continues to bully a smaller country; he tells both the criminal and the victim to stand down.

The ascendancy of Modi to power has crushed all hopes of dialogue and reconciliation. It has significantly altered the regional security paradigm. Maintenance of status quo cannot guarantee peace anymore. The region is a tinder box ready to ignite. Now, if it ever happens, it will not be a fight over land or water; but a fight between two irreconcilable ideologies.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Unless India abandons her hegemonic policies, there can be no peace; that person clearly forgot to mention it in his sermon. Neither side is willing to squander the areas claimed by the other, and why would they? Also, he forgot to mention who started the arms race and the nuke race in the first place; as if the other side could afford to leave matters to chance.

We all know what the core issue between those two countries is and which country is unwilling to resolve that core issue or even initiate a dialogue. We know which nation rejects third party mediation and has stalled each and every process of dialogue in the past. See the memoirs of their founding fathers' henchmen; they concede to the fact that they had snatched Kashmir through fraud and deceit. That gentleman would've talked about justice and rule of law had he been wronged by a stronger person but he refuses to talk about justice when a bigger country continues to bully a smaller country; he tells both the criminal and the victim to stand down. Any hopes of peace were crushed when Musharraf's four point formula was rejected by Manmohan Singh.

The ascendancy of Modi to power has crushed all hopes of dialogue and reconciliation. It has significantly altered the regional security paradigm. Maintenance of status quo cannot guarantee peace anymore. The region is a tinder box ready to ignite. Now, if it ever happens, it will not be a fight over land or water; but a fight between two irreconcilable ideologies.

Looking into this guy he seemed like well rounded dude nice editing can make you look like a saint but peel the onion he is typical libturd from "elite" backround he is establishment alright this is why the media should be controlled in Pakistan Mushy was an idiot it lead to more Indophile slaves and foreign stakes,NGOS and a..slickers as usual there will never be peace most Paks are tired of the lies and hurtful crap hurled by Indians abroad thorough their PR and lobbying attempts to malign us

Since you are Afghan I am not suprised you suggest you want to see the conflict over most non Pakistani Muslims could give rat a..s about Kashmir thats why it should be nationalists struggle

 

[Rusty]

Which weapons company forced India to invade Kashmir?

India invaded Hyderabad, Goa, etc and its non of our business as they are non Muslim majority lands.

India agreed to let majority Muslim lands go to Pakistan, but then realized they have small penises and invaded Kashmir.

Pakistan is not asking for the moon. I are just saying that India should not have invaded Kashmir due to their own insecurity.

If they had not done so, there would be no need for massive troops on both sides.

 

[Psychic]

Looking into this guy he seemed like well rounded dude nice editing can make you look like a saint but peel the onion he is typical libturd from "elite" backround he is establishment alright this is why the media should be controlled in Pakistan Mushy was an idiot it lead to more Indophile slaves and foreign stakes,NGOS and a..slickers as usual there will never be peace most Paks are tired of the lies and hurtful crap hurled by Indians abroad thorough their PR and lobbying attempts to malign us

The sad thing is that Pakistanis (govt included) are always defensive, passive and reactive. They adopt an apologetic tone whenever confronted with Indian propaganda of terror sponsor state. Their libturdiness did a great deal of damage to Pakistan ideology which instilled patriotism and a sense of belonging in the mind of an average Pakistani. At times, it looks as if their country is India and not Pakistan. You won't see their assholiness ever criticizing Indian policies, but they jump to guns whenever they get an opportunity to bash Pakistan. They even join Indians and bash their own country.

Bro, the difference between Indian liberal and Pakistani liberal is simple. The Indian liberal is patriot, our liberal is not. Indian liberals never talk against Indian foreign policy, Kashmir policy or Pakistan policy.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

I was watching this video and I found it really interesting and wanted to share it with all of you.

Would like to hear some of your thoughts dear users...

Who told you this is only for India?? India is the best excuse we have to build our capability.
And the expenditure is overestimated..
This idiot doesn't know how much money gets laundered every year by politicians as compared to our defence budget..

 

[SIPRA]

The person in OP video is clearly placing both India and Pakistan, on the same level, regarding this dispute, which is not the true depiction of the case. Indian desire for hegemony and supremacy, over Pakistan, since the day one, initiated as well has continued this dispute. Pakistan has only been reacting to Indian aggression, for the last 72 years.

 

[H. Dawary]

Looking into this guy he seemed like well rounded dude nice editing can make you look like a saint but peel the onion he is typical libturd from "elite" backround he is establishment alright this is why the media should be controlled in Pakistan Mushy was an idiot it lead to more Indophile slaves and foreign stakes,NGOS and a..slickers as usual there will never be peace most Paks are tired of the lies and hurtful crap hurled by Indians abroad thorough their PR and lobbying attempts to malign us

Since you are Afghan I am not suprised you suggest you want to see the conflict over most non Pakistani Muslims could give rat a..s about Kashmir thats why it should be nationalists struggle

Well I care mainly because I am an Afghan. It's damned if I do and damned if I don't for us... It would have been better if Pakistan and India did not share a border, as history has proven time and time again that whenever two powers share a border with one another there's bound to be a clash, this is what is known as the Thucydides trap, this is going to without a doubt effect the surrounding nations as well.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Well I care mainly because I am an Afghan. It's damned if I do and damned if I don't for us... It would have been better if Pakistan and India did not share a border, as history has proven time and time again that whenever two powers share a border with one another there's bound to be a clash, this is what is known as the Thucydides trap, this is going to without a doubt effect the surrounding nations as well.

With Geo=political tensions rising globally I doubt Kashmir will be solved through talks the next gen and current gen will see more proxy warfare sad truth and in general I think on the Indian side there is widespread belief that Pakistan is gonna die anyways so how can you reason with people who dont want you to exist

 

[Kabira]

There is no dispute as such as land. Pakistan just want India to hold referendum in IoK as per UN resolutions. Pakistan cannot throw persecuted Kashmiris to wolf just to have better relations with neighbour. Afghans will not understand this.

 

[Ritual]

Well I care mainly because I am an Afghan. It's damned if I do and damned if I don't for us... It would have been better if Pakistan and India did not share a border, as history has proven time and time again that whenever two powers share a border with one another there's bound to be a clash, this is what is known as the Thucydides trap, this is going to without a doubt effect the surrounding nations as well.

You are approaching the issue in a outdated manner. There can’t ‘just be peace’ between us. Did you realise Imran Khan sent a letter to Modi 3 times asking for peace talks but it didn’t even get replied. In fact Indian Hindu extremist politicians regularly issue announcements that they will destroy Pakistan etc when you don’t have a single Pak minister who does that.

Similarly Hindu extremists regularly lynch & murder Muslims even on suspicion of eating beef? Even renting houses is impossible because of discrimination. It is not a case of two equals fighting in your view but like others have said a beligerent India now ruled by extremists who won’t tolerate smaller nations around it.